Government can't create jobs!

[rustydog]

Yep, you are rigghhhttt Repugnants.
There ain't no effing way government can create jobs.

United states Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast guard...government run, hires hundreds upon thousands of men and women annually as support to our (employed troops).

Your state has a state patrol: government run police department, Hires men and women.
City police, county sheriff...all employees
your state has a state prison which hires prison guards, and support staff.
your county has a jail which hires Guards and support staff.
Your county may have a parks and rec department that hires staff.
Your county and state have highway departments that hire thousands of men and women.
Even your Freebie crap: you know: Welfare...hires staff to assist those who need help.


Yea, Government doesn't create jobs just like you Repugnants have the answer.

[dkf]

1. Government can create jobs that those who pay taxes will need to support in perpetuity.

Whereas a loan to help start a new business should be a one off thing.

I would prefer we do the latter. It's a more efficient use of funds in my mind.

Of course the necessities must be done but why the localities can't take care of their own needs is beyond me.

[rustydog]

2. "Localities" are still government

[dkf]

3. Then that is a state by state decision.

Part of the problem is that the locals aren't getting their own needs taken care of. That is mismanagement in my mind.

[Zalatix]

9. States can fund the US Navy?

[dkf]

10. Oh are we trying to create jobs by expanding the Navy?

Didn't think so.

[libtodeath]

4. It is not as if a job government creates is a waste

they fill real social needs and also protect us from would be completely unbridled capitalism.
I would rather see the latter done away with so that there was true economic justice and fairness where all parts of the economy worked together with each other instead of a dog eat dog for a piece of the pie as we have now.

Why should the good of and needs of the public be sacrificed for the gamble of your proposal?

[dkf]

5. If the need was defined and the job filled then maybe so.

But the job should not be created to create jobs.

If the work was truly needed why would it not have been created in healthier times?

[libtodeath]

6. It is not as simple as the right wing meme you are spewing that assumes a government created job is

someone sitting at a desk reading a book.
In this fucked up predatory capitalist system we are in priorities get distorted until yes once again the thing collapses on itself and we have to open our eyes to the disaster.
Right now there is more then enough need for infrastructure repair,expanding broadband (could be done with private companies with governmental mandate as phone service was) renewable energy study and development.
The list is long and the jobs are many if we would only get the notion out of our heads that it is a good thing for wealth to accumulate in the pockets of the few at the sacrifice of the many.

[dkf]

11. What's screwed up is we don't see the need when are in good times and can afford it.

Then in bad times all of a sudden it is a necessity?

[libtodeath]

14. Blame capitalism and right wing thinking,not me.

[HiPointDem]

8. Yeah, it's the healthy times when we need lots of social workers, food stamp administrators and

unemployment counselors, child protective service investigators, etc.

Why shouldn't jobs be created to create jobs? Is there some reason you think people have no right to a job when every square inch of the earth is owned by someone SO THEY HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF SUPPORTING THEIR LIFE????

People either have a right to a job that will sustain their life or they have the right to a check that will, because the right to sustain their own life outside the system has been taken from them.

[dkf]

12. I didn't see that those were the jobs they were proposing to fund.

That would have made too much sense I guess.

And if people have a right to a job why is it so damned difficult to comply with all the laws? Honestly if I were to start my own business there are so many things I'd have to learn. How easy is it to start a lemonade stand? I know we need to protect the public from hazards but I also know its not as easy as making the danged lemonade and selling it on the side of the road. At least not if you want to be in compliance with safety regulations, licensing regulations, and taxes.

[dkf]

16. To tell you the truth I only started realizing this stuff due to the recession.

Before this I did not understand the point because I did not put much value in a person trying to figure out a way to survive when they can't find a corporate or government job.

But hearing about the desperation of people who are long term unemployed opened my eyes to the difficulty in making your own way when you can't find someone else to hire you.

Americans are dependent on a big business or government hiring them partly because we have made the other options difficult. This is what makes unemployment so much worse than in the past...we have set up barriers to entry.

Maybe you will never get this because you think the solution is for the government to hire everyone who doesn't have a corporate job. I don't think that is practical.

[HiPointDem]

7. Neither can the private sector, apparently. So we're in a fine pickle.

[JoePhilly]

13. Add the jobs at Military Contract firms like Lockheed Martin.

Add Lobbyist positions at oil an gas companies paid for by government subsidies to those same companies.

Add FBI, the NIH, EPA, FDA.

Add Congress and the Supreme Court ... and every Judge down the line ... and their staffs.

All real jobs created by the government.

And past that ... even if you don't work for the government, you probably use the roads they created to get to your job.

And if you are using the Internet, you should thank the government, because they created it.

Republicans tend to not be aware of any of this.