Thu May 22, 2014, 08:54 PM

Tsiyu (18,186 posts)

If you have a secret compartment in your car -even empty - you could soon do 5 years in PA

http://www.pottsmerc.com/general-news/20140519/cops-can-now-search-your-car-without-a-warrant-in-pa

Cops can now search your car without a warrant in Pa.

"The state Supreme Court ruled last week that police are allowed to search vehicles without a warrant. The state General Assembly, meanwhile, is moving forward with a bill that would give cops the authority to arrest people caught with “secret compartments” in their vehicles, even if there is nothing illegal in those suspicious containers.

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On the same day the Supreme Court ruling was announced, the House Judiciary Committee unanimously approved legislation making it a crime to possess a car with “secret compartments.” If the bill becomes law, anyone caught with such compartments could be charged with a first-degree misdemeanor and have their vehicle seized by police — even if the compartments hold nothing but air.

A conviction would carry up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

State Rep. Kate Harper, R-Montgomery, the bill’s sponsor, said law enforcement asked her to introduce the bill. Police are concerned about vehicles that pass through Pennsylvania on a well-known smuggling route between New York and Florida."

Well this should do wonders for tourism in the state. I sometimes drive to NY. I will DRIVE AROUND Pa next time, no matter how long it takes. Who wants to go on a trip knowing you might end up spending 5 years in prison for having air in a secret compartment you maybe didn't even know about?

Are Republicans all going batshhit crazy control freak or what?

FUCK YOU HARPER!

Here's the miserable excuse for a human right here:

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Jayzuss when I think I've heard everything......

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If you have a secret compartment in your car -even empty - you could soon do 5 years in PA (Original post)	Tsiyu	May 2014	OP
Land of the free.	Baitball Blogger	May 2014	#1
I guess they have to trample on every right we have	Tsiyu	May 2014	#2
+100	Liberal_in_LA	May 2014	#4
Land of the Free.	Octafish	May 2014	#3
Isn't this the state that had payoffs to judges to incarcerate kids for nonsense?	Tsiyu	May 2014	#10
I wouldn't be surprised one bit, if that was the case.	Uncle Joe	May 2014	#40
Judge Mark Ciavarella Jr appreciated children as a business opportunity.	Octafish	May 2014	#51
Yes, sick sick sick	Tsiyu	May 2014	#70
Wait a minute! My grandmother's 1999 car which I am driving how has a compartment inside her glove	diabeticman	May 2014	#5
Tell her NOT to ever go to Pennsylvania!	Tsiyu	May 2014	#11
We live in Pennsylvania and unfortunately she passed... don't feel bad--but this really is getting	diabeticman	May 2014	#29
My condolences	Tsiyu	May 2014	#31
really all cars can fall into this catagory. how many arm rests double as storage? This is just	diabeticman	May 2014	#58
that isn't a secret compartment they are referring to	snooper2	May 2014	#68
I've got a "secret compartment" under my front passenger seat	Art_from_Ark	May 2014	#18
You stop lying, Boy, and respeck Kate Harper's Authoritah!	Tsiyu	May 2014	#32
It's a fair cop,	Art_from_Ark	May 2014	#35
What constitutes a "secret compartment"?	Half-Century Man	May 2014	#6
Police ignorance	Aerows	May 2014	#14
I'm sure cops won't abuse their discretion, aren't you?	Tsiyu	May 2014	#16
If you use the filter of "yourself" as the basis of how you see the world.	Half-Century Man	May 2014	#20
That's what I'm saying	Tsiyu	May 2014	#28
Never attribute to malice those things easily explained by stupidity.	Half-Century Man	May 2014	#33
You have 2222 posts	Tsiyu	May 2014	#39
I passed another un-noticed milestone....	Half-Century Man	May 2014	#42
2/3 of your examples indicate malice	FiveGoodMen	May 2014	#82
Kate Harper has less value than a pile of horse s**t.	Dawson Leery	May 2014	#37
Horse shit is very valuable actually	Tsiyu	May 2014	#41
There are so many spaces on any given car that could be described as "secret compartments"...	MohRokTah	May 2014	#7
True, but I don't think they'll target Pennsylvania drivers...	TeeYiYi	May 2014	#15
Oh, yeah, they will target anyone from any other state first	Tsiyu	May 2014	#17
Out of state and/or driving while brown or black.	hunter	May 2014	#57
+1000	TeamPooka	May 2014	#65
When the law makes everyone a criminal, police get to pick and choose. eom	MohRokTah	May 2014	#60
My son's car has several secret compartments	jberryhill	May 2014	#8
BTW, if the court ruled that the cops can search without a warrant in absence of consent,...	MohRokTah	May 2014	#9
What in hell are they thinking?	Tsiyu	May 2014	#19
Cash-jacking.	sofa king	May 2014	#89
Did PA just contract out the management of its prisons or something?	jmowreader	May 2014	#12
Just pure craziness is all	Tsiyu	May 2014	#21
I think this is true in OH, too	Aerows	May 2014	#13
This is the first I heard of this crap	Tsiyu	May 2014	#23
It's unbelievable	Aerows	May 2014	#44
Tell the NRA and gun owners	hollowdweller	May 2014	#22
Well, there's a strategy	Tsiyu	May 2014	#25
Might I suggest you go to the gungeon	Le Taz Hot	May 2014	#83
I live in NY	MattBaggins	May 2014	#24
Do they still post the fines for speeding on the signs everywhere?	Tsiyu	May 2014	#26
I think I'd start going around. ..nt	TeeYiYi	May 2014	#27
I'm originally from Ohio and that's also	liberalhistorian	May 2014	#59
SUV's and wagons	KT2000	May 2014	#30
Very, very stupid, apparently!	Tsiyu	May 2014	#36
This is a bill that won a committee vote, not yet a law. There is time to kill it.	Comrade Grumpy	May 2014	#34
Let's hope they respond vehemently	Tsiyu	May 2014	#38
I'd want to read the case first.	X_Digger	May 2014	#43
And it's a bad law.	Aerows	May 2014	#45
The secret compartment thing? Yep.	X_Digger	May 2014	#47
It really is.	Aerows	May 2014	#48
According to the article, police are supposed to have to prove it's for nefarious purposes, but..	X_Digger	May 2014	#50
I can see it now	Aerows	May 2014	#53
Well	phil89	May 2014	#56
Yeah, probably :(.	Aerows	May 2014	#88
I am all in favor of breaking up and outlawing ALL law enforcement unions/	Dawson Leery	May 2014	#46
+ 1000 police "unions" are only to protect bad cops. nt	Logical	May 2014	#52
The other issue is that these "unions" would promote	Dawson Leery	May 2014	#54
This won't pass Constutional muster at all. Its another waste of time and resources.	cleanhippie	May 2014	#49
WTF?	Spirochete	May 2014	#55
The Federal Government needs a "Department of Have You Lost Your God Damned Mind?"	A HERETIC I AM	May 2014	#61
^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	Tsiyu	May 2014	#66
+1	wickerwoman	May 2014	#74
LOL ..... Yup! n/t	A HERETIC I AM	May 2014	#86
LOVE it!	WinkyDink	May 2014	#85
I don't know if I have secret compartments or not	defacto7	May 2014	#62
I have a car that has a secret compartment as standard equipment	NV Whino	May 2014	#63
This is so nuts....	yuiyoshida	May 2014	#64
It just occurred to me that I have never owned a car that.........	wandy	May 2014	#67
I don't know, but I'd just steer clear of PA if I were anyone from out of state	Tsiyu	May 2014	#69
For what it's worth, I was raised there................	wandy	May 2014	#71
I hear ya	Tsiyu	May 2014	#73
What if you tell the cop about it as soon as he pulls you over? No longer a secret.	yellowcanine	May 2014	#72
If you trust the cops there, which I wouldn't	Tsiyu	May 2014	#75
So what if you buy a car with a secret compartment,	Ed Suspicious	May 2014	#76
According to Aerows up above	Tsiyu	May 2014	#77
Stop and frisk expanding	knownow	May 2014	#78
Is she at risk of arrest if the cops find the empty secret compartment	Jackpine Radical	May 2014	#79
A most vital question!	Tsiyu	May 2014	#84
My car came with a whole bunch of "secret" compartments.	Vinca	May 2014	#80
Jeez--Are you gonna admit right out here online	Jackpine Radical	May 2014	#87
Asshattery of Harper aside	customerserviceguy	May 2014	#81
Kick	StarryNite	May 2014	#90

Response to Tsiyu (Original post)

Thu May 22, 2014, 08:55 PM

If you have a secret compartment in your car -even empty - you could soon do 5 years in PA

1. Land of the free.

2. I guess they have to trample on every right we have

4. +100

3. Land of the Free.

10. Isn't this the state that had payoffs to judges to incarcerate kids for nonsense?

40. I wouldn't be surprised one bit, if that was the case.

51. Judge Mark Ciavarella Jr appreciated children as a business opportunity.

70. Yes, sick sick sick

5. Wait a minute! My grandmother's 1999 car which I am driving how has a compartment inside her glove

11. Tell her NOT to ever go to Pennsylvania!

29. We live in Pennsylvania and unfortunately she passed... don't feel bad--but this really is getting

31. My condolences

58. really all cars can fall into this catagory. how many arm rests double as storage? This is just

68. that isn't a secret compartment they are referring to

18. I've got a "secret compartment" under my front passenger seat

32. You stop lying, Boy, and respeck Kate Harper's Authoritah!

35. It's a fair cop,

6. What constitutes a "secret compartment"?

14. Police ignorance

16. I'm sure cops won't abuse their discretion, aren't you?

20. If you use the filter of "yourself" as the basis of how you see the world.

28. That's what I'm saying

33. Never attribute to malice those things easily explained by stupidity.

39. You have 2222 posts

42. I passed another un-noticed milestone....

82. 2/3 of your examples indicate malice

37. Kate Harper has less value than a pile of horse s**t.

41. Horse shit is very valuable actually

7. There are so many spaces on any given car that could be described as "secret compartments"...

15. True, but I don't think they'll target Pennsylvania drivers...

17. Oh, yeah, they will target anyone from any other state first

57. Out of state and/or driving while brown or black.

65. +1000

60. When the law makes everyone a criminal, police get to pick and choose. eom

8. My son's car has several secret compartments

9. BTW, if the court ruled that the cops can search without a warrant in absence of consent,...

19. What in hell are they thinking?

89. Cash-jacking.

12. Did PA just contract out the management of its prisons or something?

21. Just pure craziness is all

13. I think this is true in OH, too

23. This is the first I heard of this crap

44. It's unbelievable

22. Tell the NRA and gun owners

25. Well, there's a strategy

83. Might I suggest you go to the gungeon

24. I live in NY

26. Do they still post the fines for speeding on the signs everywhere?

27. I think I'd start going around. ..nt

59. I'm originally from Ohio and that's also

30. SUV's and wagons

36. Very, very stupid, apparently!

34. This is a bill that won a committee vote, not yet a law. There is time to kill it.

38. Let's hope they respond vehemently

43. I'd want to read the case first.

45. And it's a bad law.

47. The secret compartment thing? Yep.

48. It really is.

50. According to the article, police are supposed to have to prove it's for nefarious purposes, but..

53. I can see it now

56. Well

88. Yeah, probably :(.

46. I am all in favor of breaking up and outlawing ALL law enforcement unions/

52. + 1000 police "unions" are only to protect bad cops. nt

54. The other issue is that these "unions" would promote

49. This won't pass Constutional muster at all. Its another waste of time and resources.

55. WTF?

61. The Federal Government needs a "Department of Have You Lost Your God Damned Mind?"

66. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

74. +1

86. LOL ..... Yup! n/t

85. LOVE it!

62. I don't know if I have secret compartments or not

63. I have a car that has a secret compartment as standard equipment

64. This is so nuts....

67. It just occurred to me that I have never owned a car that.........

69. I don't know, but I'd just steer clear of PA if I were anyone from out of state

71. For what it's worth, I was raised there................

73. I hear ya