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Whomever edited this video of Operation American Spring cut off the woman in the Chelsea Manning t-shirt who then proceeded to list "other places to get information", since she then went on to refer to OccupyDC2014.org
It is stranger still to see her referenced as a "teabagger" in another DU thread.
I dunno if you call this "teabaggery" per se, but I don't know what you call it....
http://occupydc2014.org/contact/
Occupy DC Spring 14
Christine Ann Sands, Director
http://polymathpoet.com/about
Now working to free Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning, Jeremy Hammond, Don Siegelman, Barrett Brown and to promote WikiLeaks and Anonymous.
Having just returned from a 3-month tour in Nashville and continuing in the worlds fight against corruption, current projects are: Anonomobile, Great American Revolt, Million Mask March, Occupy DC 2014, DC Sheriff, WaveOfAction, OpJuly4th and Monday Marches.
The Anonomobile thing looks pretty cool....
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_10_20/Anonymous-is-engaged-in-a-battle-for-truth-over-evil-Christine-Ann-Sands-0846/
Christine Ann Sands one of the chief organizers and one of the few public faces of Anonymous spoke to the Voice of Russia, in an exclusive interview, about the Million Mask March, Hacktivism, WikiLeaks and the truth movement. According to Ms. Sands the American people have been hijacked by evil forces that were behind the 9-11 attacks and that continue to control the US government, the media and political parties.
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So I bought myself a 32 foot RV, had it painted it black, with blue stripe all around it, like the state police and I put the Wikileaks logo, the Anonymous logos, Occupy and I am driving around and I got Million Mask March November, 5 on the side, and every night since I have arrived in DC, I have been detained and stopped and investigated by regular police, and secret police.
Wow, she really gets around!
951-Riverside
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https://twitter.com/PolymathPoet/status/467270236429762561
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https://twitter.com/PolymathPoet/status/467109454723678209
Mrs Christine Ann Sands is a staple on Voice of Russia, so my guess if shes not a tea bagging loon, she just goes around to various events, says whatever works at that particular moment to get her way in the door and what happens afterwards is anyone's guess.
Russia Today is trying their hardest to get this Operation American Fail off the ground just like they have been pushing the Bundy Ranch fiasco.
Its not hard to figure out what might be going on.
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^ It wouldnt be the first time a Russia Operative was caught trying to infiltrate something in the past 10 years.
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^ Just last year this guy who had an show on RT was trying to lead an armed march to DC but no one showed up.
LLD
(136 posts)"and every night since I have arrived in DC, I have been detained and stopped and investigated by regular police, and secret police." Seriously.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Why?
It would be interesting to know who paid to buy and trick out that RV.
But, get this, it also is alleged she worked for the DoJ as a paralegal.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)She writes for Voice of Russia, retweets Russian Today articles, has money to buy an new RV then repaint it and involved with Occupy, Wikileaks, Anonymous and The tea party.
C'mon! ...COME ON!!
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^ Honey Trap operation? That's on her facebook page ...C'MON!
As for your question about Russian Operatives promoting wikileaks.
Why not?
Wikileaks is the best thing that's happened to them because no one is paying attention to Russia's intelligence operations. keep in mind I'm not making any claims about Wikileaks itself, I'm only addressing your question.
I wish I lived in DC because I would LOVE to meet her in person get her thoughts on Euromaidan and Pussy Riot on video.
joshcryer
(62,495 posts)So of course that's their modus operndi.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)joshcryer
(62,495 posts)Of course, these are people who lack nuance, once they find the bits in the cables that say America is bad, they forget or overlook the other stuff about civic ambassador duties and personal human aspects, and whatnot. It becomes some hollow "spectre of US empire" type thing.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)That was my first thought...NOT a Russian Operative,
but a paid US operative.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)from somewheres.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...who is about 52 according to her bio. Woman in video quite likely working with her though. My guess is they aren't teabaggers, but show up whereever there is some sort of rally and look for camera time.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Check out all of lonely guys on her page, its a sausage fest. She really knows how to pull them in I have to give her credit for that and if you read the facebook posts it goes way beyond just someone just looking for camera time.
Russian Operative? Hmm?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)joshcryer
(62,495 posts)Made her looks into something as opposed to her prosecuting abilities.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She's quite a youthful looking woman. I'm certain that's her or a clone of her.
The rest of her rant was interesting. She plugged OccupyDC2014.org and then quickly added something to the effect of "this is not an occupy event, but there's lots of information there" or something. She may have been concerned about the apparent incongruity of plugging occupy at an ostensibly teabaggers event.
struggle4progress
(120,378 posts)StarryNite
(10,870 posts)whoever she is.
struggle4progress
(120,378 posts)20 April, 13:57
... Robles: Can you tell us what is going on with the next Million Masks March, with the supposed relaunch of the Occupy Movement in spring? And what is going on in Washington with you and Anonymous in the upcoming months, if you could?
Sands: Right now there's been a Wave of Action that started on 04.04.14 and it is supposed to go through July 4th . But I don't really know why they'd only going until July 4. I think that this needs to go on and continue. The Wave of Action is a big movement that started on 04.04 and now, on April 22nd there is a Cowboy\Indian Alliance Encampment. So, cowboys and Indians are coming in to Washington and they are going to set up a camp in there protesting the pipeline.
Then, we've got on May 1, Anonymous have said that they are going to be active. And May 1 of course is a worldwide day of protest. Then, we've got on May 16th America's Freedom Fighters in operation American Spring. They've got 20,000 Facebook likes and that is going to be happening on May 16th ...
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_04_20/US-ripe-for-revolution-Anon-planning-May-Op-Christine-Ann-Sands-8635/
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Seriously, wtf?
struggle4progress
(120,378 posts)and the actual story, if we ever sort it out completely, is likely to be a complicated mess, involving some apparent contradictions
I'd like to know where she got the money for the bus and its paint job
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That didn't come cheap.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)Anyone who advocates overthrowing the government is either a loon or has an ulterior motivate.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)"Anyone who advocates overthrowing the government is either a loon or has an ulterior motivate."
okaawhatever
(9,545 posts)what she was doing in Nashville?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She really gets around.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I mean, how else would you remain
anonymous if not behind the wheel of a 32 foot custom-painted RV with a public address system.
Something smells funny.
Cha
(305,623 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Sid
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Springslips
(533 posts)Which I think many of us are thinking.
There no proof here, just speculating.
She's a Russian agent co-opting protest movements here to spread dissent and to weaken America.
The problem is that she's being all to obvious. Maybe she's just crazy.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)What would you think of a Marine who goes to live in the Soviet Union, comes back, gets involved in fringe politics, and kills the President?
Springslips
(533 posts)Now I am solidly in the skeptical camp. But I do know a lot about the asassination and event surrounding it. So let me revert back, and put on my old tin foil hat for old time sakes.
Sidebar: I am glad you mentioned it because this thread was reminding me of something that I couldn't put my finger on until you replied.
Oswald also played on multiple sides of a political debate: he was documented handing out flyer of both anti- communism and pro-communism substance. He also was blatant about as this woman seems to be. She is acting much like Oswald did pre 1963.
This is kind of freaking me out.
*takes off the tin foil hat*
Nah. She probable just a fame seaking, nutjub. ( like Lee Harvey was.)
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)LHO wanted to be involved in deep intrigue of some kind, but was pretty much a dipshit.
That RV, however, didn't come cheap.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)its not the first time time someone involved in Russian media has directed Americans to overthrow the US government, I'm working on a post right about that now.
Its just speculation... (stick with me here)
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What if the Russian government is using women like her to infiltrate and target key (lonely) members of the Occupy and Militia Movement (classic honey-trap operation), slowly develop relationships with those members then over time start supplying them with money, weapons, training then eventually they're given orders.
Putin's Russia is quite unhappy about Ukraine so I wouldn't put this past them.
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Russian Agent Vasil'yevna Kushchyenko aka Anna Chapman deported in 2010.
Maybe she's not the sharpest tool in the shed and maybe she's more concerned about her looks than the operation plus if you're a Russian handler, you're not going to send your best or brightest to infiltrate the Militia Movement, problem is she sticks out like a sore thumb but maybe they're desperate and they want whatever they have planned up and running in months not years.
We'll see if she suddenly disappears or continues but there is no way someone like that is going to be involved in a bunch of movements let alone be able to buy her own brand new RV, paint it and install a PA system with her own money.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)What?s up with the #MillionMaskMarch?
Details about the Million Mask March are getting ugly. The original idea was hatched months ago by John Fairhurst and slowly gained steam. Since then, an infiltrator, Christine Ann Sands (@wikipoet and @polymathpoet), bought a series of domain names affiliated with MMM (including millionmaskmarch.org) and claims to have obtained a permit for the protest in DC. She also bought a bus she calls the Anonomobile and has been going to press as the ?voice of Anonymous.? Christine is telling people that they are allowed to wear masks at the DC protest, but this is technically a violation of DC code. ?She is also raising money for her campaigns through PayPal, but any Anon knows that this is a trap. Enough #lulz? We got more.
Christine ?Nevada? Sands at Occupy LA
It was discovered that Christine Sands is a known informant on Ocuppy Los Angeles who used to go by the name Nevada. She was ousted as working for US Bank and disappeared when called occupiers called out her associations. Nevada was a major disruptor of the OLA general assembly, often being removed by people in the crowd. She spent her days in OLA trolling people she thought were ?leaders? and impersonating the press in order to collect information. She resurfaced in June as Christine Sands on the East Coast in a well-financed takeover of the MMM. There are many doxs on her: http://pastebin.com/hUbcknAN and http://pastebin.com/2AhGYTwT and http://pastebin.com/wP5ZrhWZ.
Some questions do remain: many want to know where the Anonomobile came from? Who financed it? But, most importantly, what technology is on it and is it tracking us?
Some advice:
-Do not go to any of Christine?s domains for MMM because they main contain trackers.
-If you see the Anonomobile, stay away.
-If you see Christine, stay away.
-Never donate to any Paypal account that claims to be associated with Anonymous or Wikileaks.
-DO GO OUT AND PROTEST!
http://interoccupy.net/blog/whats-up-with-the-millionmaskmarch/
Is it possible she's trying to discredit Occupy by associating them with teabaggers and American Spring?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Or could she be an independent contractor? A shit-stirrer for hire.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)American Spring etc ?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You mean the Larouchies, Randroids, Paulbots, and Truthers weren't enough?
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Occupy, Anonymous and Wiki Leaks deny any involvement with her and say she just showed up out of nowhere. Maybe she's an independently wealthy loon.
joshcryer
(62,495 posts)That it was all a left wing psyops.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You know, those guys who end up barricaded in their home surrounded by police because they were afraid the government is going to take their guns away.
And then those are the people who are held up as examples of how the government is coming to take everyone's guns away.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Adam Kokesh
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Back in early 2013 Russia Today host and former US Marine Adam Kokesh tried to organize a massive gun rally in DC on July 4th of 2013, he went on to talk about overthrowing the government using force on the Alex Jones' show. Jones himself has been a frequent guest on Russia Today.
Kokesh did an about face after there was a huge backlash from the Militia movement although given that they racist most were suspicious of his last name more than anything but that's for another discussion.
Notes from the video (I'll save you the trouble of watching the whole nauseating thing):
6:13 "this is an armed revolt against the american government make no mistake about it."
11:23 "yes, we are going with the aim of overthrowing the government, it has become obsolete"
14:31 "we have to make it clear and put government on notice that we will use physical force when necessary"
22:02 "we are asserting the right to be armed and to apply deadly force"
26:38 "you'll be on the wrong side of the firing line when the shooting starts"
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Correct me if I'm wrong but I noticed that instead of addressing specific points, you've instead chosen to make the comparison between me and "J. Edgar" several times whenever I point out Russia media's involvement in the RW Militia movement (The same people who want to forcibly remove President Obama from office and even topple the US government).
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your point.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The concept really takes me back.
It's interesting. You know all of that Area 51 stuff? What a great way to motivate nutbars with cameras to keep a sharp eye on the sky near a secret aircraft development facility.
It's like a trip down memory lane.
Like the saying goes - just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
joshcryer
(62,495 posts)There is overlap. It's similar to leftists championing Libertarian views.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If I arranged to bump into her at some looneyfest and made her believe I was in posession of important government information, how far would she go to get it out of me?
joshcryer
(62,495 posts)I say go for it. :twisted:
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)that you have a woman who is featured on Russia media (Voice of Russia), seems to have large amount of funds and no real background involved in multiple movements including Occupy, Anonymous, Wikileaks and The Tea Party/Militia/Beergut movement.
Something doesn't fit here.
Its also suspicious that someone who had a TV show on Russia Today called for an armed revolt in DC against the American government. Time and time again we see this type of stuff from people involved in Russia media not PressTV (Iran), not Al Jazeera, not BBC and not Chinese government media but I've made all of my points on this topic, i'll leave it at that.
Time will eventually tell if I'm right or wrong.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)struggle4progress
(120,378 posts)http://anonomobile.com/
joshcryer
(62,495 posts)Perfect.
struggle4progress
(120,378 posts)at polymathpoet suggests she's had at least 35 different jobs in the last 35 years, in addition to attending 13 different schools in that time
The inconsistent variety of experiences claimed there might admit a range of interpretations ranging from easily-bored-genius through completely-bonkers or pathological-liar and onto into role-playing-hobbyist or professional-con, with (no doubt) many other possibilities, too many for me to sort out
As I have no basis for much opinion here -- beyond Hmmm! That's fairly odd! -- perhaps I would do just as well not to expend much thought on her