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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
Fri May 16, 2014, 04:38 PM May 2014

Prominent Wikileaks Supporter Rallies To Overthrow Government

Whomever edited this video of Operation American Spring cut off the woman in the Chelsea Manning t-shirt who then proceeded to list "other places to get information", since she then went on to refer to OccupyDC2014.org



It is stranger still to see her referenced as a "teabagger" in another DU thread.

I dunno if you call this "teabaggery" per se, but I don't know what you call it....

http://occupydc2014.org/contact/

Occupy DC Spring ’14
Christine Ann Sands, Director


http://polymathpoet.com/about

Now working to free Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning, Jeremy Hammond, Don Siegelman, Barrett Brown and to promote WikiLeaks and Anonymous.

Having just returned from a 3-month tour in Nashville and continuing in the world’s fight against corruption, current projects are: Anonomobile, Great American Revolt, Million Mask March, Occupy DC 2014, DC Sheriff, WaveOfAction, OpJuly4th and Monday Marches.


The Anonomobile thing looks pretty cool....



http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_10_20/Anonymous-is-engaged-in-a-battle-for-truth-over-evil-Christine-Ann-Sands-0846/

Christine Ann Sands one of the chief organizers and one of the few public faces of Anonymous spoke to the Voice of Russia, in an exclusive interview, about the Million Mask March, Hacktivism, WikiLeaks and the truth movement. According to Ms. Sands the American people have been hijacked by evil forces that were behind the 9-11 attacks and that continue to control the US government, the media and political parties.

...

So I bought myself a 32 foot RV, had it painted it black, with blue stripe all around it, like the state police and I put the Wikileaks logo, the Anonymous logos, Occupy and I am driving around and I got Million Mask March November, 5 on the side, and every night since I have arrived in DC, I have been detained and stopped and investigated by regular police, and secret police.


Wow, she really gets around!


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Prominent Wikileaks Supporter Rallies To Overthrow Government (Original Post) jberryhill May 2014 OP
Russian intelligence operative? 951-Riverside May 2014 #1
Good to know they are doing their job. LLD May 2014 #7
A Russian Operative promoting Wikileaks? jberryhill May 2014 #8
...Here's the thing shes not hiding it. 951-Riverside May 2014 #16
Wikileaks is percieved as anti-American. joshcryer May 2014 #42
Perceived as anti-American by whom? jberryhill May 2014 #44
Anyone who uses the cables to discredit America. joshcryer May 2014 #46
The NSA could... sould could Homeland Security, CIA, FBI, or any one of the US "Intelligence" bvar22 May 2014 #57
what an ugly confluence of ideologies and factions. She must be getting $$$ KittyWampus May 2014 #2
Wonder who pays her. hobbit709 May 2014 #3
woman in video appears to be too young to be Christine Ann Sands... HooptieWagon May 2014 #4
Its the same woman. The distinctive cheekbones are a dead giveaway plus there's her facebook page... 951-Riverside May 2014 #5
Apparently, all true revolutionaries do cheesecake photos pinboy3niner May 2014 #6
Pretty Weird, eh? jberryhill May 2014 #9
They pulled that with the Crimean prosecutor. joshcryer May 2014 #45
Do an image search jberryhill May 2014 #10
Dunno. See my #11 downthread struggle4progress May 2014 #12
She looks like she's had a lot of work done... StarryNite May 2014 #54
US ripe for revolution, Anon planning May Op - Christine Ann Sands (Voice of Russia) struggle4progress May 2014 #11
WTF? jberryhill May 2014 #13
It's a good question, but I can't shed definitive light here: there are too many possibilities, struggle4progress May 2014 #15
Yep jberryhill May 2014 #22
lololol RT needs to stop beating the dead horse (or is it the horse that never lived?). chrisa May 2014 #14
Those are words to live by... jberryhill May 2014 #17
She was on a tour of Nashville for 3 months? On tour for 3 mos or in Nashville for 3 mos. I wonder okaawhatever May 2014 #18
She was also at Occupy LA jberryhill May 2014 #19
"The Anonomobile". randome May 2014 #20
The best thing to drive if you want to protect your privacy! jberryhill May 2014 #21
Thanks for the expose, jberry. Cha May 2014 #23
Although I'm not sure what it exposes jberryhill May 2014 #25
Good thread... SidDithers May 2014 #24
It sure is. Very interesting. Pirate Smile May 2014 #30
+a bazillion. Some strange dots connected and even stranger bedfellows being exposed here. Number23 May 2014 #47
Total speculation... Springslips May 2014 #26
"Maybe she's just crazy" jberryhill May 2014 #27
I was once a JFK asassination CT Springslips May 2014 #28
Well that's kind of my point jberryhill May 2014 #31
I'm seeing a trend of Russia media trying to prop up the militia movement and... 951-Riverside May 2014 #32
Thanks, J. Edgar, I was thinking the same thing... jberryhill May 2014 #37
the bankroll comes from somewhere.. where can i sign up to be paid to be a gadfly? dionysus May 2014 #29
Check this out octoberlib May 2014 #33
Who is paying her and why? jberryhill May 2014 #34
That's what I'm thinking. Maybe she was hired to discredit Occupy by associating them with octoberlib May 2014 #35
Uhm... jberryhill May 2014 #38
You have a point there. octoberlib May 2014 #56
That's what the teabaggers claimed about the American Spring. joshcryer May 2014 #50
I'm struck by how paranoid politics is self fulfilling... jberryhill May 2014 #58
Not the first time someone involved in Russia media tried to organize an overthrow of the US Gov 951-Riverside May 2014 #36
It makes me feel young again... jberryhill May 2014 #39
Are you suggesting that the Militia/Tea Bag movement is the target of a J. Edgar style witch hunt? 951-Riverside May 2014 #40
Are you suggesting Russians are infiltrating fringe US political groups? jberryhill May 2014 #41
It's just a confluence of ideas and concepts. joshcryer May 2014 #43
Okay, but... jberryhill May 2014 #48
Ha, now I see your angle. joshcryer May 2014 #49
I disagree, they are not all fringe or even political but its just highly suspicious... 951-Riverside May 2014 #53
You were right jberryhill Sep 2017 #59
ANONOMOBILE | Anonymous Mobile Unit struggle4progress May 2014 #51
And a tinge of crazy. joshcryer May 2014 #52
Could be. Anyway, something doesn't seem to add up: the current self-description struggle4progress May 2014 #55
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
1. Russian intelligence operative?
Fri May 16, 2014, 05:47 PM
May 2014

Last edited Sat May 17, 2014, 12:58 AM - Edit history (1)

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https://twitter.com/PolymathPoet/status/467270236429762561

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https://twitter.com/PolymathPoet/status/467109454723678209



Mrs Christine Ann Sands is a staple on Voice of Russia, so my guess if shes not a tea bagging loon, she just goes around to various events, says whatever works at that particular moment to get her way in the door and what happens afterwards is anyone's guess.

Russia Today is trying their hardest to get this Operation American Fail off the ground just like they have been pushing the Bundy Ranch fiasco.

Its not hard to figure out what might be going on.

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So I bought myself a 32 foot RV, had it painted it black, with blue stripe all around it, like the state police and I put the Wikileaks logo, the Anonymous logos, Occupy and I am driving around and I got Million Mask March November, 5 on the side, and every night since I have arrived in DC, I have been detained and stopped and investigated by regular police, and secret police.


...Yeah I'm sure you did.

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^ It wouldnt be the first time a Russia Operative was caught trying to infiltrate something in the past 10 years.

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^ Just last year this guy who had an show on RT was trying to lead an armed march to DC but no one showed up.
 

LLD

(136 posts)
7. Good to know they are doing their job.
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:37 PM
May 2014

"and every night since I have arrived in DC, I have been detained and stopped and investigated by regular police, and secret police." Seriously.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. A Russian Operative promoting Wikileaks?
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:29 PM
May 2014

Why?

It would be interesting to know who paid to buy and trick out that RV.

But, get this, it also is alleged she worked for the DoJ as a paralegal.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
16. ...Here's the thing shes not hiding it.
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:01 PM
May 2014

She writes for Voice of Russia, retweets Russian Today articles, has money to buy an new RV then repaint it and involved with Occupy, Wikileaks, Anonymous and The tea party.

C'mon! ...COME ON!!

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^ Honey Trap operation? That's on her facebook page ...C'MON!

As for your question about Russian Operatives promoting wikileaks.

Why not?

Wikileaks is the best thing that's happened to them because no one is paying attention to Russia's intelligence operations. keep in mind I'm not making any claims about Wikileaks itself, I'm only addressing your question.

I wish I lived in DC because I would LOVE to meet her in person get her thoughts on Euromaidan and Pussy Riot on video.

joshcryer

(62,495 posts)
46. Anyone who uses the cables to discredit America.
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:04 AM
May 2014

Of course, these are people who lack nuance, once they find the bits in the cables that say America is bad, they forget or overlook the other stuff about civic ambassador duties and personal human aspects, and whatnot. It becomes some hollow "spectre of US empire" type thing.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
57. The NSA could... sould could Homeland Security, CIA, FBI, or any one of the US "Intelligence"
Sat May 17, 2014, 12:19 PM
May 2014

That was my first thought...NOT a Russian Operative,
but a paid US operative.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. woman in video appears to be too young to be Christine Ann Sands...
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:07 PM
May 2014

...who is about 52 according to her bio. Woman in video quite likely working with her though. My guess is they aren't teabaggers, but show up whereever there is some sort of rally and look for camera time.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
5. Its the same woman. The distinctive cheekbones are a dead giveaway plus there's her facebook page...
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:20 PM
May 2014
https://www.facebook.com/WikiPoet

Check out all of lonely guys on her page, its a sausage fest. She really knows how to pull them in I have to give her credit for that and if you read the facebook posts it goes way beyond just someone just looking for camera time.

Russian Operative? Hmm?

joshcryer

(62,495 posts)
45. They pulled that with the Crimean prosecutor.
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:02 AM
May 2014

Made her looks into something as opposed to her prosecuting abilities.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. Do an image search
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:35 PM
May 2014

She's quite a youthful looking woman. I'm certain that's her or a clone of her.

The rest of her rant was interesting. She plugged OccupyDC2014.org and then quickly added something to the effect of "this is not an occupy event, but there's lots of information there" or something. She may have been concerned about the apparent incongruity of plugging occupy at an ostensibly teabaggers event.

struggle4progress

(120,378 posts)
11. US ripe for revolution, Anon planning May Op - Christine Ann Sands (Voice of Russia)
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:36 PM
May 2014

20 April, 13:57

... Robles: Can you tell us what is going on with the next Million Masks March, with the supposed relaunch of the Occupy Movement in spring? And what is going on in Washington with you and Anonymous in the upcoming months, if you could?

Sands: Right now there's been a Wave of Action that started on 04.04.14 and it is supposed to go through July 4th . But I don't really know why they'd only going until July 4. I think that this needs to go on and continue. The Wave of Action is a big movement that started on 04.04 and now, on April 22nd there is a Cowboy\Indian Alliance Encampment. So, cowboys and Indians are coming in to Washington and they are going to set up a camp in there protesting the pipeline.

Then, we've got on May 1, Anonymous have said that they are going to be active. And May 1 of course is a worldwide day of protest. Then, we've got on May 16th America's Freedom Fighters in operation American Spring. They've got 20,000 Facebook likes and that is going to be happening on May 16th ...


http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_04_20/US-ripe-for-revolution-Anon-planning-May-Op-Christine-Ann-Sands-8635/

struggle4progress

(120,378 posts)
15. It's a good question, but I can't shed definitive light here: there are too many possibilities,
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:53 PM
May 2014

and the actual story, if we ever sort it out completely, is likely to be a complicated mess, involving some apparent contradictions

I'd like to know where she got the money for the bus and its paint job

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
14. lololol RT needs to stop beating the dead horse (or is it the horse that never lived?).
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:46 PM
May 2014

Anyone who advocates overthrowing the government is either a loon or has an ulterior motivate.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. Those are words to live by...
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:10 PM
May 2014

"Anyone who advocates overthrowing the government is either a loon or has an ulterior motivate."

okaawhatever

(9,545 posts)
18. She was on a tour of Nashville for 3 months? On tour for 3 mos or in Nashville for 3 mos. I wonder
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:38 PM
May 2014

what she was doing in Nashville?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. "The Anonomobile".
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:43 PM
May 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. The best thing to drive if you want to protect your privacy!
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:49 PM
May 2014

I mean, how else would you remain
anonymous if not behind the wheel of a 32 foot custom-painted RV with a public address system.

Something smells funny.

Springslips

(533 posts)
26. Total speculation...
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:35 PM
May 2014

Which I think many of us are thinking.

There no proof here, just speculating.

She's a Russian agent co-opting protest movements here to spread dissent and to weaken America.

The problem is that she's being all to obvious. Maybe she's just crazy.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. "Maybe she's just crazy"
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:53 PM
May 2014

What would you think of a Marine who goes to live in the Soviet Union, comes back, gets involved in fringe politics, and kills the President?

Springslips

(533 posts)
28. I was once a JFK asassination CT
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:08 PM
May 2014

Now I am solidly in the skeptical camp. But I do know a lot about the asassination and event surrounding it. So let me revert back, and put on my old tin foil hat for old time sakes.

Sidebar: I am glad you mentioned it because this thread was reminding me of something that I couldn't put my finger on until you replied.

Oswald also played on multiple sides of a political debate: he was documented handing out flyer of both anti- communism and pro-communism substance. He also was blatant about as this woman seems to be. She is acting much like Oswald did pre 1963.

This is kind of freaking me out.

*takes off the tin foil hat*

Nah. She probable just a fame seaking, nutjub. ( like Lee Harvey was.)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. Well that's kind of my point
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:58 PM
May 2014

LHO wanted to be involved in deep intrigue of some kind, but was pretty much a dipshit.

That RV, however, didn't come cheap.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
32. I'm seeing a trend of Russia media trying to prop up the militia movement and...
Sat May 17, 2014, 12:02 AM
May 2014

its not the first time time someone involved in Russian media has directed Americans to overthrow the US government, I'm working on a post right about that now.

Its just speculation... (stick with me here)

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What if the Russian government is using women like her to infiltrate and target key (lonely) members of the Occupy and Militia Movement (classic honey-trap operation), slowly develop relationships with those members then over time start supplying them with money, weapons, training then eventually they're given orders.

Putin's Russia is quite unhappy about Ukraine so I wouldn't put this past them.

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Russian Agent Vasil'yevna Kushchyenko aka Anna Chapman deported in 2010.

The problem is that she's being all to obvious.


Maybe she's not the sharpest tool in the shed and maybe she's more concerned about her looks than the operation plus if you're a Russian handler, you're not going to send your best or brightest to infiltrate the Militia Movement, problem is she sticks out like a sore thumb but maybe they're desperate and they want whatever they have planned up and running in months not years.

We'll see if she suddenly disappears or continues but there is no way someone like that is going to be involved in a bunch of movements let alone be able to buy her own brand new RV, paint it and install a PA system with her own money.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
33. Check this out
Sat May 17, 2014, 12:20 AM
May 2014

What?s up with the #MillionMaskMarch?

Details about the Million Mask March are getting ugly. The original idea was hatched months ago by John Fairhurst and slowly gained steam. Since then, an infiltrator, Christine Ann Sands (@wikipoet and @polymathpoet), bought a series of domain names affiliated with MMM (including millionmaskmarch.org) and claims to have obtained a permit for the protest in DC. She also bought a bus she calls the Anonomobile and has been going to press as the ?voice of Anonymous.? Christine is telling people that they are allowed to wear masks at the DC protest, but this is technically a violation of DC code. ?She is also raising money for her campaigns through PayPal, but any Anon knows that this is a trap. Enough #lulz? We got more.

Christine ?Nevada? Sands at Occupy LA

It was discovered that Christine Sands is a known informant on Ocuppy Los Angeles who used to go by the name Nevada. She was ousted as working for US Bank and disappeared when called occupiers called out her associations. Nevada was a major disruptor of the OLA general assembly, often being removed by people in the crowd. She spent her days in OLA trolling people she thought were ?leaders? and impersonating the press in order to collect information. She resurfaced in June as Christine Sands on the East Coast in a well-financed takeover of the MMM. There are many doxs on her: http://pastebin.com/hUbcknAN and http://pastebin.com/2AhGYTwT and http://pastebin.com/wP5ZrhWZ.

Some questions do remain: many want to know where the Anonomobile came from? Who financed it? But, most importantly, what technology is on it and is it tracking us?

Some advice:
-Do not go to any of Christine?s domains for MMM because they main contain trackers.
-If you see the Anonomobile, stay away.
-If you see Christine, stay away.
-Never donate to any Paypal account that claims to be associated with Anonymous or Wikileaks.
-DO GO OUT AND PROTEST!

http://interoccupy.net/blog/whats-up-with-the-millionmaskmarch/


Is it possible she's trying to discredit Occupy by associating them with teabaggers and American Spring?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
35. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe she was hired to discredit Occupy by associating them with
Sat May 17, 2014, 12:32 AM
May 2014

American Spring etc ?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
56. You have a point there.
Sat May 17, 2014, 10:47 AM
May 2014

Occupy, Anonymous and Wiki Leaks deny any involvement with her and say she just showed up out of nowhere. Maybe she's an independently wealthy loon.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
58. I'm struck by how paranoid politics is self fulfilling...
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:14 PM
May 2014

You know, those guys who end up barricaded in their home surrounded by police because they were afraid the government is going to take their guns away.

And then those are the people who are held up as examples of how the government is coming to take everyone's guns away.
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
36. Not the first time someone involved in Russia media tried to organize an overthrow of the US Gov
Sat May 17, 2014, 12:50 AM
May 2014

Adam Kokesh
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Alex Jones
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Back in early 2013 Russia Today host and former US Marine Adam Kokesh tried to organize a massive gun rally in DC on July 4th of 2013, he went on to talk about overthrowing the government using force on the Alex Jones' show. Jones himself has been a frequent guest on Russia Today.

Kokesh did an about face after there was a huge backlash from the Militia movement although given that they racist most were suspicious of his last name more than anything but that's for another discussion.



Notes from the video (I'll save you the trouble of watching the whole nauseating thing):


6:13 "this is an armed revolt against the american government make no mistake about it."

11:23 "yes, we are going with the aim of overthrowing the government, it has become obsolete"

14:31 "we have to make it clear and put government on notice that we will use physical force when necessary"

22:02 "we are asserting the right to be armed and to apply deadly force"

26:38 "you'll be on the wrong side of the firing line when the shooting starts"


 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
40. Are you suggesting that the Militia/Tea Bag movement is the target of a J. Edgar style witch hunt?
Sat May 17, 2014, 01:48 AM
May 2014

Correct me if I'm wrong but I noticed that instead of addressing specific points, you've instead chosen to make the comparison between me and "J. Edgar" several times whenever I point out Russia media's involvement in the RW Militia movement (The same people who want to forcibly remove President Obama from office and even topple the US government).



Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your point.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
41. Are you suggesting Russians are infiltrating fringe US political groups?
Sat May 17, 2014, 01:56 AM
May 2014

The concept really takes me back.

It's interesting. You know all of that Area 51 stuff? What a great way to motivate nutbars with cameras to keep a sharp eye on the sky near a secret aircraft development facility.

It's like a trip down memory lane.

Like the saying goes - just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

joshcryer

(62,495 posts)
43. It's just a confluence of ideas and concepts.
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:01 AM
May 2014

There is overlap. It's similar to leftists championing Libertarian views.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
48. Okay, but...
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:05 AM
May 2014

If I arranged to bump into her at some looneyfest and made her believe I was in posession of important government information, how far would she go to get it out of me?

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
53. I disagree, they are not all fringe or even political but its just highly suspicious...
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:33 AM
May 2014

that you have a woman who is featured on Russia media (Voice of Russia), seems to have large amount of funds and no real background involved in multiple movements including Occupy, Anonymous, Wikileaks and The Tea Party/Militia/Beergut movement.

Something doesn't fit here.

Its also suspicious that someone who had a TV show on Russia Today called for an armed revolt in DC against the American government. Time and time again we see this type of stuff from people involved in Russia media not PressTV (Iran), not Al Jazeera, not BBC and not Chinese government media but I've made all of my points on this topic, i'll leave it at that.

Time will eventually tell if I'm right or wrong.



struggle4progress

(120,378 posts)
51. ANONOMOBILE | Anonymous Mobile Unit
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:11 AM
May 2014
... Since the world cannot trust private billionaire banker-owned mass media to inform the public, God has appointed Anonymous and WikiLeaks to reveal the truth and Occupy to guard it. John 8:32. Unite with us as we stand against worldwide corruption ...
http://anonomobile.com/

struggle4progress

(120,378 posts)
55. Could be. Anyway, something doesn't seem to add up: the current self-description
Sat May 17, 2014, 05:32 AM
May 2014

at polymathpoet suggests she's had at least 35 different jobs in the last 35 years, in addition to attending 13 different schools in that time

The inconsistent variety of experiences claimed there might admit a range of interpretations ranging from easily-bored-genius through completely-bonkers or pathological-liar and onto into role-playing-hobbyist or professional-con, with (no doubt) many other possibilities, too many for me to sort out

As I have no basis for much opinion here -- beyond Hmmm! That's fairly odd! -- perhaps I would do just as well not to expend much thought on her

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