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kpete

(71,964 posts)
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:13 AM May 2014

The New York Times Busted Lying Through its Teeth

THU MAY 15, 2014 AT 08:06 PM PDT
The New York Times Busted Lying Through its Teeth
byJames Hepburn

I got an email from a friend with an image comparing two news reports on the big FCC vote that moves us closer to gutting net neutrality. After reading the Times' quote, it was so shockingly dishonest that my first response was, "it must be fake."



Wow. So I went to the NY Times website to confirm, because even I, who has known for years that the Times was nothing but a PR operation for the 1%, couldn't believe they fallen this low.

But it was real. The version they have up now is slightly scrubbed. But the version in the image apparently went out on the Times' wire service and is still available from scores of small newspapers.


THE REST:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/15/1299692/-The-New-York-Times-Busted-Lying-Through-its-Teeth

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The New York Times Busted Lying Through its Teeth (Original Post) kpete May 2014 OP
If the NYT is lying for the benefit of the 1% Fumesucker May 2014 #1
Actually, they only do that... Wounded Bear May 2014 #14
It's Tricksy Verbiage cer7711 May 2014 #2
Here is the next sentence in the NYT article ellie50 May 2014 #3
"Net neutrality purists." Jackpine Radical May 2014 #6
Indeed. Reminiscent of "the professional left" RufusTFirefly May 2014 #8
OH NOOOO! I don't wanna be a crazy fringe-nut purist! I wanna pay more for my internet service!!!! DesertDiamond May 2014 #15
It doesn't seem that "net neutrality purists" are going to get their pony this time. stillwaiting May 2014 #23
Yes! Loaded phrasing. Churning stomach. Enthusiast May 2014 #26
They've sunk so low they are even using those Think Tank talking points 'purist' which everyone sabrina 1 May 2014 #10
Again. nt redqueen May 2014 #4
"those considered net neutrality purists" I believe, upon deconstructing this phrase, I'm somehow Ed Suspicious May 2014 #5
Upon looking up Mr. Wyatt's profile on linkdin, I'm not surprised. Frat boy business suit. nt adirondacker May 2014 #7
Years ago, Cokie Roberts read from the same page of that playbook... RufusTFirefly May 2014 #13
Irrational Republican Radio… Jackpine Radical May 2014 #28
It's very calculated that's for sure. They try their best to manipulate the masses by stillwaiting May 2014 #24
I hate to admit it - but it's true. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #9
You know, I understand the point made about saying Obama does nothing wrong. randome May 2014 #12
I'll be interested to learn what you discovered. Thus far that story has been couched as a sexual GoneFishin May 2014 #16
I suspect it's multiple things. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #17
If there is substance to it then it will leak out eventually. GoneFishin May 2014 #18
Any national media, at its best..... Leme May 2014 #11
Within the past 30 years we've TBF May 2014 #20
I have been unhappy about media coverage for 40 years Leme May 2014 #21
Nineteen Eighty Four is here - it's Newspeak. nt TBF May 2014 #19
K N R. DirkGently May 2014 #22
k&r n/t RainDog May 2014 #25
"Purists," huh. woo me with science May 2014 #27
kick woo me with science May 2014 #29

cer7711

(502 posts)
2. It's Tricksy Verbiage
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:20 AM
May 2014

Technically, every word is true. Service providers won't be able to block or discriminate against "legal content flowing through their pipes."

The catch is (or soon will be): If you haven't paid (names redacted) their blood-money for high-speed access, your "legal content" will find itself stumbling, stuttering and falling--as opposed to smoothly flowing--along the broad-band highway.

The entire passage was cunningly crafted to deceive and report the exact opposite of what this attack on the open internet means in terms of future slow-down of certain content.

ellie50

(31 posts)
3. Here is the next sentence in the NYT article
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:25 AM
May 2014

While the rules are meant to prevent Internet providers from knowingly slowing data, they would allow content providers to pay for a guaranteed fast lane of service. Some opponents of the plan, those considered net neutrality purists, argue that allowing some content to be sent along a fast lane would essentially discriminate against other content.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
8. Indeed. Reminiscent of "the professional left"
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:01 AM
May 2014

Reminds me of when Cokie Roberts scoffed at Howard Dean for "being out of the mainstream."
The smugness of the one percent is insufferable.

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
15. OH NOOOO! I don't wanna be a crazy fringe-nut purist! I wanna pay more for my internet service!!!!
Fri May 16, 2014, 12:12 PM
May 2014

Or have my website die because it loads too slow. That will prove I'm not crazy!!

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
23. It doesn't seem that "net neutrality purists" are going to get their pony this time.
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:13 PM
May 2014

Unbelievably disgusting.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
26. Yes! Loaded phrasing. Churning stomach.
Sat May 17, 2014, 06:35 AM
May 2014

Me too. I guess we fall in to the Net Neutrality Purists category. Sort of like The Fringe Left.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. They've sunk so low they are even using those Think Tank talking points 'purist' which everyone
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:25 AM
May 2014

knows are nothing but part of the effort to silence people. Not that they ever worked, but that is how you know operatives when you see them, they use those words and phrases that are intended to undermine those who dare to speak out on issues like this that are so important to the ruling class.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
5. "those considered net neutrality purists" I believe, upon deconstructing this phrase, I'm somehow
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:30 AM
May 2014

left with the idea that this purity is sort of fringe and not at all what pragmatic, normal people might go for. Just weirdo fringe purists. Commies if you will.

It reminds me of the language bluedogs and third way dems use to discredit the "liberal left." The pie in the sky idealists who just couldn't possibly get elected and if they would become elected would only weigh on the party the way (said with a sneer) Dennis Kucinich used to.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
13. Years ago, Cokie Roberts read from the same page of that playbook...
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:57 AM
May 2014

... when she dismissed Howard Dean as being out of the mainstream.
One of many reasons I can no longer stomach National Republican Radio.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
24. It's very calculated that's for sure. They try their best to manipulate the masses by
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:14 PM
May 2014

painting our viewpoints as extreme. Of course, they're not extreme, but too many Americans can't snap out of the brainwashed haze that has been perpetrated against them.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
9. I hate to admit it - but it's true.
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:20 AM
May 2014

I loved the NY Times, but it seems to have become a tool of the Obama Administration. I have reasons to suspect that Jill Abramson's firing was related to a struggle within the Times to stop this - I'll post on this in the next few days.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. You know, I understand the point made about saying Obama does nothing wrong.
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:48 AM
May 2014

But you seem determined to tie everything that occurs in the world to the President. Your antagonistic bias must be hard to hide any longer.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
16. I'll be interested to learn what you discovered. Thus far that story has been couched as a sexual
Fri May 16, 2014, 12:22 PM
May 2014

discrimination and pay inequality situation.

 

Leme

(1,092 posts)
21. I have been unhappy about media coverage for 40 years
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:47 PM
May 2014

That's as far back as I can go from memory. lol Further if I do readings.
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The direction of slope you show may be true enough... but a lot of that is consolidation of common lack of diverse opinions, lack of information, etc. anyways.
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Not that much differing info even before consolidations. Just an opinion.
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But now it is less likely a differing opinion will be given in a major media forum.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
27. "Purists," huh.
Sat May 17, 2014, 08:01 AM
May 2014

Creepy uniformity between those talking points and the ones distributed here daily by the resident propaganda crew.

War is Peace, and we live in a corrupt, surveilled, and carefully messaged neoAmerica.
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