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Didn't think so.
RT's version was that the military attacked the police and the population rushed to defend the police. This is also the Izvestiya take on matters. No mention that the military showed up 30-45 minutes after the police came under attack.
BTW, the police building that was under attack wasn't just offices and jails. The police building is also living quarters, and the video shot by police had their wives telling their policeman husbands to get down and stop recording because they're being shot at. Yes, there were women and children in the building when the DPR folk decided to engage in an armed attack.
And the police building was, finally, under attack by things like RPGs. The "activists" had taken the lower floor and were shooting from there. Thick walls. Want to hit them, you get lucky or you have something that might penetrate the walls or do real damage if it goes through a window.
How about the videos where those attacking the building tried to get civilians to seek shelter? I mean, that's the duty of those in power, to protect the weak and defenseless. No? Did see those? That's because they don't exist. The attackers were hiding behind things as they were shooting at the police building. You didn't see them in the pro-Russian edits. Instead, you often see bad edits with return fire hitting civilians. Or, rather, "civilian." It was just peaceful citizens who came out when the military rolled in, unprovoked--in most cases, sort of true ("mostly unarmed" is more like it). The citizens assumed that the police would roll over and yield, and citizen accompaniment to take-overs are a common and winning tactic. This time they were furious at being challenged. They have a right to rule. How dare the police call in the military for backup! They shouted "fascist," but that just means "people who aren't on my side." It's like "republican" at DU--lots of liberals have been called "republican" or "right-wing" because they failed to agree with a poster on a particular point.
And while you don't see the DPR people trying to shelter people, you do see "fascists" who surrender to opolchentsi instead of fighting, who get their APCs and BMPs stuck instead of running over civilians. What you seldom see are the armed men standing behind the civilians in those cases. Why, just one video from yesterday was impressive: It showed unarmed "fascists" getting out of their BMP as women screamed in terror at the sight of the horrible beasts. Meanwhile, the soldiers were yelling, "Don't shoot, we're unarmed." In the video, you only see unarmed civilians (some of whom were shouting, "shoot them!"
. In the last second you see the armed men come into view and surround the soldiers. An hour later the same video was missing those last few seconds. And another especially loud scream from a woman was where "Strelyaite!" could be heard before.
"BMP seized by civilians" was the rubric. The other side: "BMP broke down. Soldiers, trapped inside and surrounded by screaming civilians and opolchentsi with kalashes, surrendered to those who had attacked the police HQ."
Doesn't fit the Russian version.
BTW, the Gorsoviet building also burned last night, late. It wasn't attacked. But it does mean that the "regime" will be crippled. The police lost their building yesterday. So did the civil bureaucracy. Scorched earth? Or revenge for Odessa, where only pro-Russians were killed in what's billed as a premediated attack by Right Sector forces? (Another one of those stories at odds with much of the evidence, so the evidence must be wrong.)
