e-cigs NOT a gateway to new smokers, study finds

[Prophet 451]

A study by ASH has found that almost all e-cig users are either current or former smokers, not new users. Yes, this is from a British survey but I'd imagine that US results are pretty similar. What's more, the study found that the majority of e-cig users are using rechargeable batteries and refillable cartridges/tanks, rather than the disposables released by the big tobacco firms.

Guardian

[beevul]

1. This confirms what most people familiar with the issue already knew.

Of course, there are those that wont like this conclusion, and will go on and on about flavors and "advertising to children", and every other little thing they can.

I'm sure they'll be along any time now to demonstrate that.

[Prophet 451]

3. I'm sure

That contingent is why I posted this, to blunt that attack.

[Prophet 451]

40. They're heeeerrrrreeeee n/t

[Warpy]

51. Even former smokers who have been on e cigs for a few months

find the real thing unbearably nasty when they run out of juice for a few days. I can imagine how a kid would react.

[Comrade Grumpy]

2. They're a gateway to quitting smoking.

[Prophet 451]

5. Have been for me

I've gone from 50 a day to 0 in about six weeks. Now about ten days clean.

[1000words]

16. Good for you!

I know numerous folks who have used them to quit. A couple real heavy smokers.

You have done yourself a great favor, Prophet. Keep going ...

[Prophet 451]

17. The toughest days are when I'm writing assignments

I'm doing my second degree with teh Open University (very old respectable distance learning institute here that provides free tuition and textbooks to poor people) and it's assignment days that get me. I'm so used to sitting there, mainlining coffee with a smoke permanently dangling from my lip.

[angstlessk]

27. I love not smoking...but I don't feel like a quitter

get a ciga like if you want to dangle..and your vapor when you need nicotine...

I have gone from 24 mg nic to 18 and have noticed any withdrawals...next is 16 then 8...(I hope)

[Mariana]

78. Nevertheless, you have quit smoking, by definition.

The switch to e-cigs isn't effortless. You took the steps YOU needed to take to stop smoking. That's something to be proud of.

[displacedtexan]

63. I used to be the same way!

Then I decided I would not smoke while at the computer. After I mastered that, I cut out the bedroom. Then, I smoked only in the kitchen. Then, on jan. 10th of this year, I changed to the ecig completely, and I've never gone back.

[notadmblnd]

11. Yep, day 14 without lighting up for me.

nt

[etherealtruth]

59. Congratulations and continued good luck (I realize it is not really luck)

[tridim]

58. And far superior to expensive lozenges, patches and gum, made by big pharma.

[Prophet 451]

74. Yep

I'm extremely anti-corporate and being able to do this while staying away from Big Pharma (although they have much less power here due to the NHS) was important to me.

[morningfog]

4. The study doesn't seem to answer whether those who do

start with ecigs become addicted an transition to smoking. I don't think they've been on the market long enough to answer that. That, I think is the concern.

[Prophet 451]

7. Given the miniscule number who start with e-cigs

I wouldn't call that a concern at all.

[morningfog]

13. Not as of yet, and that is a good thing.

Hopefully it stays that way.

[Prophet 451]

14. I think it will

I would imagine that very few are going to take up vaping "cold". They're going to be either smokers looking to quit/reduce or relatives/friends of same. The only person I know who has started vaping without being a smoker is my SO and she's got 0% nicotine liquids (in sweet flavours to help her diet).

[jmowreader]

96. Do you expect that number to stay minuscule?

Tobacco cigarettes, from the perspective of the young potential smoker, have three drawbacks: they smell nasty, they taste nasty and your mom can tell when you're smoking them because...guess what kids, smokers smell like what they are. E-cigs have none of those problems.

The only reason e-cigarettes haven't completely taken over the teen market is the price of the starter kit.

[Prophet 451]

97. Yes, I do

As the study showed, the number of non-smokers who take up vaping barely exists. Claiming that they're going to lead to huge amounts of teens suddenly taking up vaping is scare-mongering, nothing more. The evidence is clear. The overwhelming majority of people who take up vaping are existing smokers.

[etherealtruth]

62. I have no doubt that this fuels the nicotine addiction ....

I have known many folk that chewed nicotine gum compulsively .... however, they were able to eventually stop. Certainly the vapor exhalations and gum breath are far less detrimental and aesthetically displeasing to others and the environment.

[1000words]

6. DU experts disagree

What to do ...

[Prophet 451]

8. I'll go with the actual study

The one done by an anti-smoking group.

[PeaceNikki]

12. you mean singular, and in air quotes... "expert"

[tammywammy]

20. haha

Indeed.

[LadyHawkAZ]

66. Well that settles it!

BAN EM!

(this message brought to you by Philip Morris Inc.)

[PeaceNikki]

9. it's true

And my one non smoking friend who enjoys vaping uses 0 mg flavors

[Prophet 451]

10. My SO is doing the same

She's trying to diet so we ordered her some 0% liquids in sweet flavours to try and take the edge off.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Actually the cdc disagrees

From phone so no link now

One link, pain to get it

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/youth_data/tobacco_use/?mobile=nocontent

[LadyHawkAZ]

19. The CDC found that 76.3 percent of teens who used them were also smokers

http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2013/p0905-ecigarette-use.html

The study also found that 76.3 percent of middle and high school students who used e-cigarettes within the past 30 days also smoked conventional cigarettes in the same period. In addition, 1 in 5 middle school students who reported ever using e-cigarettes say they have never tried conventional cigarettes. This raises concern that there may be young people for whom e-cigarettes could be an entry point to use of conventional tobacco products, including cigarettes.

So: they found that 20% of middle schoolers who had ever tried an e-cig had never tried an analog.

Missing data: percentage of those who continued using, percentage of high schoolers who had tried an e-cig but not analogs, percentage of high schoolers who continued using the e-cig, levels of nicotine used if any.

[PeaceNikki]

21. also missing is data on how many of those converted to tobacco

The CDC had zero data on the "gateway" effect of e-cigs.

[LadyHawkAZ]

23. Those are some very odd points to leave out

and makes me a little suspicious.

[Warpy]

54. It was one of those wretchedly bad, cheap "studies" done by some

of Stupid's appointees, undoubtedly. It left too much out to have been designed by anyone who had an intact brain and graduates of Regency generally don't qualify.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. The point is that research is not agreeing

and that is the way science works.

I know that people who like E-CIGS do not want to hear it.

By the way, my local County is one step closer to banning them in County facilities, and I say good.

[PeaceNikki]

28. the data on the link you provided is not related to gateway effect in any way, shape, fashion or for

It's usage stats plain and simple. The data you linked does not agree nor disagree with the one in the OP. It's entirely different data.

[LadyHawkAZ]

29. No, I think your point was that the research had been negative,

which it actually hadn't.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Whatever, I gave you link and all

this is like walls and heads.

Trash thread

[demtenjeep]

56. e cigs have helped at least 10 people including me

completely stop smoking analog cigs.


and no, no one can get second hand vapor issues.

[PeaceNikki]

67. the problem is the few people fighting against e-cigs

Are trying to discuss it with a bunch of us with real world first hand actual experience. We've been released from the chains of cigarettes and are happy, healthier, proud and feel real financial benefits from the transition.

We won't let them squash that, minimize it and we'll fight like hell to stop them from taking it from us.

[demtenjeep]

81. exactly

I love how when facts get in the way of their ideology, they then trash thread

[zappaman]

88. But but..

I read that a poster here had an asthma attack when someone nearby vaped!!!
And what about the children?
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!

[demtenjeep]

90. haha

I know

the outrage

[PeaceNikki]

91. congrats, btw!! be proud!

[demtenjeep]

92. I am

without E-Cigs it never would have happened

[LadyHawkAZ]

99. I remember when you posted that you were going to try it

glad to hear it worked out for you!

[misterhighwasted]

22. Of course we tried to tell them but that didn't stop the FDA from setting regulations before

they had any data or studies to go by.
But of course it would take a study from somewhere outside the USA to prove what the vaping community has said all along.

Regulations were based on fear.
Not the truth.
Very scientific of them.

[Prophet 451]

24. And ASH is an anti-smoking org

Their whole reason for existing is getting people to quit smoking. So if they say there's virtually no-one taking up vaping "cold", I'll believe them. The regs were based on fear, misinformation and Big Tobacco pressure.

[krawhitham]

25. regulations are not set

The FDA released a draft of what they want to enact


We have a 75 day discussion period, after that 75 days the FDA will make any changes it likes that was talked about during the discussion period.

At the end of the 75 days the FDA will release the new rules, and manufactures have 2 years to comply

[misterhighwasted]

30. Here's hoping they take the British study into consideration then.

I've read that Big Ole Tobacco has been buying up small stores already.
predictable

[Prophet 451]

44. Doesn't surprise me

Most of us are using liquids from small traders making their own liquids. In a way, you almost have to admire Big Tobacco's tenacity. No-one wants to use their shitty liquid? Fine, they'll just buy the suppliers people are actually using instead.

[pnwmom]

32. That doesn't explain new teen users. Also, the refillable kinds can produce more carcinogens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/business/some-e-cigarettes-deliver-a-puff-of-carcinogens.html

Like Dr. Goniewicz’s study, which has been subjected to peer review, the second study also centered on the impact of increased heat generated by the systems. In that study, the focus was on how people use the devices to create more — and more potent — vapor. Rather than fill their tank systems with e-liquid, experienced users often trickle drops of the fluid directly onto the device’s heating element, a practice known as “dripping.”

But with dripping, the e-liquid heats with such intensity that formaldehyde and related toxins “approach the concentration in cigarettes,” said Dr. Alan Shihadeh, a project director at the Virginia Commonwealth University’s Center for the Study of Tobacco Products and an associate professor of mechanical engineering at American University in Beirut, who led the research.

Both studies point to the same phenomenon: Intense heat can change the composition of e-liquids, creating new chemicals. Importantly, the researchers said, the chemical reactions apply not only to the liquid nicotine, but also to two other crucial ingredients in most e-liquids: vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol.

Precisely what level of heat causes the reaction is difficult to pinpoint. The Roswell research found, generally, that when battery voltage increased to 4.8 volts from 3.2 volts, toxin levels increased markedly.

“This finding suggests that in certain conditions, E.C.s might expose their users to the same or even higher levels of carcinogenic formaldehyde as tobacco smoke,” the Roswell study says.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/health/NATL-E-Cigs-May-Lead-To-Tobacco-Use-New-Study-Finds-248904091.html

[Prophet 451]

34. That's because there AREN'T ANY

Did you not read the freaking article? The study specifically says that the number of people taking up vaping who aren't already smokers is almost non-existent. You're saying it doesn't explain something it specifically says virtually doesn't exist!

I have never known a single person who did "dripping" and it sounds like an urban legend. The fact that the heating element isn't even accessable without ripping apart the entire mechanism adds to that suspician.

[pnwmom]

37. But we know studies have shown that's not true in the US. And part of the problem

is nomenclature.

Teens will deny using e-cigs because they are convinced that e-pens or vape pens or e-hookahs aren't the same thing.

[Prophet 451]

39. No, it's not

ASH is an anti-smoking org. They have produced a study. You have not. You have just produced a lot of accusations, one of which is almost certainly an urban legend, and no studies.

[pnwmom]

46. Here. This is about American teens, not teens in England.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/health/NATL-E-Cigs-May-Lead-To-Tobacco-Use-New-Study-Finds-248904091.html

Teenagers using e-cigarettes are more likely to try smoking real cigarettes and are less likely to quit than kids who did not use the battery-powered devices, a new study found.

“The use of e-cigarettes does not discourage, and may encourage, conventional cigarette use among U.S. adolescents,” the study concluded.

Published online on Thursday in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) Pediatrics, the study examined data collected from nearly 40,000 U.S. middle and high school students who completed the 2011 and 2012 National Youth Tobacco Survey.

The report also found that e-cigarette use among middle and high school students doubled between 2011 and 2012, from 3.1 percent to 6.5 percent.

SNIP

[PeaceNikki]

48. the last four paragraphs are interesting

But not everyone agrees with the conclusion drawn by the researchers. The study did not prove that teen e-cigarette smokers used tobacco after smoking e-cigarettes, because it examined two large data pools of teens in 2011 and 2012 rather than tracking the same people over two years.

Other experts said that just because e-cigarettes are being used by young people who smoke more and have a more difficult time kicking the habit does not mean that the devices are the root of the problem, according to The New York Times. Those experts say it is possible that young people who use e-cigarettes, which deliver nicotine through vapor instead of the smoke associated with traditional cigarettes, were heavier smokers to begin with, or would have become heavy smokers down the line, the Times reported.

“The data in this study do not allow many of the broad conclusions that it draws,” said Thomas J. Glynn, a researcher at the American Cancer Society, according to the Times.

Experts remain divided on whether e-cigarettes, which entered the market about a decade ago, are a gateway to smoking or a path for the nation's 45 million smokers to help quit.

A large federal survey published last year found that the overwhelming majority of young people who use e-cigarettes also smoke real tobacco. Another report concluded that while e-cigarette use among youths doubled from 2011 to 2012, real cigarette smoking for youths has continued to decline.

[pnwmom]

49. And then there is this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/e-cigarettes-under-aliases-elude-the-authorities.html?action=click&module=Search®ion=searchResults&mabReward=relbias%3Ar&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquery.nytimes.com%2Fsearch%2Fsitesearch%2F%3Faction%3Dclick%26region%3DMasthead%26pgtype%3DHomepage%26module%3DSearchSubmit%26contentCollection%3DHomepage%26t%3Dqry289%23%2Fvape+pen+hookah

SAN FRANCISCO — Olivia Zacks, 17, recently took a drag of peach-flavored vapor from a device that most people would call an e-cigarette.

But Ms. Zacks, a high school senior, does not call it that. In fact, she insists she has never even tried an e-cigarette. Like many teenagers, Ms. Zacks calls such products “hookah pens” or “e-hookahs” or “vape pipes.”

The emergence of e-hookahs and their ilk is frustrating public health officials who are already struggling to measure the spread of e-cigarettes, particularly among young people. The new products and new names have health authorities wondering if they are significantly underestimating use because they are asking the wrong questions when they survey people about e-cigarettes.

SNIP

Public health authorities worry that people are being drawn to products that intentionally avoid the term “e-cigarette.” Of particular concern is use among teenagers, many of whom appear to view e-cigarettes and e-hookahs as entirely different products when, for all practical purposes, they are often indistinguishable.

Indeed, public health officials warn that they may be misjudging the use of such products — whatever they are called — partly because of semantics. A survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that 10 percent of high school students nationwide said that they had tried e-cigarettes in 2012, double the year before. But the C.D.C. conceded it might have asked the wrong question: Many young people say they have not and will not use an e-cigarette but do say they have tried hookah pens, e-hookahs or vaping pens.

[PeaceNikki]

55. OK, but that's a story with theories, not a study.

Also there discussion in there that a fair amount of those people are using zero nicotine versions. Not a likely gateway to cigarettes.

[pnwmom]

65. It's a gateway if you get addicted to nicotine. Even worse if you don't realize

that's what you're vaping.

[PeaceNikki]

68. you don't understand at all. the customer is choosing nicotine level.

The problem with you and a few others is that you are trying to discuss it with a bunch of us with real world first hand actual experience. We've been released from the chains of cigarettes and are happy, healthier, proud and feel real financial benefits from the transition.

We won't let you squash that, minimize it and we'll fight like hell to stop you from taking it from us.

[pnwmom]

69. You don't understand at all. The teen "customer" is often a kid who shares

a hookah that belongs to another kid. S/he doesn't know what's in it. Did you read the article? In the first two paragraphs it describes a girl named Olivia who is convinced she's doesn't smoke e-cigs because she doesn't think a vape pen is the same.

[misterhighwasted]

41. They will never stop looking for that "gotcha" moment. Hard to admit they were wrong

and the entire vaping community could possibly have been right all along. You know, the very people who were actually vaping are the last one's the non vapers will believe.
Its too bad they don't put this much effort into saving the teens & kids & everyone else by pushing to end tobacco sales altogether.

Now that's some deadly stuff worth the fight to eliminate completely.

[Prophet 451]

47. Cognitive dissonance is powerful stuff

It's fascinating how people will rather do anything than accept they were wrong.

[angstlessk]

36. "heats with such intencity' It is a fricking battery...how much intencity can a battery produce?

and in fact mine is charged through my computer...

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES

[LadyHawkAZ]

52. Link to the people who have died from formaldehyde poisoning

as a result of e-cig use, please?

[zappaman]

89. I hope you aren't holding your breath!

[LadyHawkAZ]

93. No, as a matter of fact I'm inhaling cinnamon vapor

[angstlessk]

33. How many congressional hearings until we decided cigarettes were dangerous?

Now...e-cigs are thrown under the bus with nary a congressional hearing?

[Prophet 451]

35. Less money in it

As the study says, most people are refilling e-cigs, not using teh disposables put out by Big Tobacco. That's why.

[angstlessk]

38. Agree...it is the tobacco lobby

they want to control the e-cig business in order to hook people on nicotine...not the other way around, which the e-cig folks now encourage...go for 0 nicotine

[PeaceNikki]

42. exactly. well said.

[Prophet 451]

43. I'm gradually going down

Right now, I've got some at 24mg and some at 18mg. I'm not noticing much difference so next order, I'll probably just knock everything down to a uniform 18mg. Then, a few months down the line, I'll think about knocking it down to the next level (16mg for most of my liquids). And so on. I'll keep vaping even when I get down to 0, just because I enjoy it.

[PeaceNikki]

45. I went from 18 to 11 pretty easily.

I've been on that a while, but I stocked up on it then. I'll drop again next order.

[Prophet 451]

50. My SO is on the 0% ones

She's trying to lose weight so she's using 0% liquids in sweet flavours to fight her cravings.

Totally Wicked has a few nice herbal flavours in 0% that I might try.

[misterhighwasted]

70. yes thats how I had to do it also. I smoked tobacco for 40, YES 40 years of my life.

I have vaped e cigs for three months. I can breathe, Walk 6 blocks & back, and I swear the addiction isnt so much from the nicotine as perhaps the cyanide or one of the 4000 other toxins in tobacco cigarettes.

No study, report or finding will EVER convince me that Ecigs should be labelled nor considered similar in any way to tobacco cigarettes.

I am living proof that they should be labelled as a device to stop smoking tobacco because that's what they actually do. The fact that there is pleasure in their use is just an added factor.

Well if I can eliminate 3999 toxins from switching from tobacco to Vaping I say HOORAH For Me.
So I'm down to ONE toxin. ONE ya hear!
And that one toxin can be easily reduced to zero.
I started at 12 mg nicotine & am now at 6.

So what's the Effin problem??
The Oligarchy is the problem.
They have they greedy hands in enough of my life. Leave this one alone.

AMEN

[PeaceNikki]

71. congrats to you! be proud and sing it from the mountaintop!

And read this...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4922686

[misterhighwasted]

73. Beautifully stated. Bravo to you for hitting the nail on the head.

They don't get it & they won't until it affects someone near & dear to them in the same way it affected all of us.

[Prophet 451]

76. Bravo!

I smoked heavily for 25 years. When I started vaping, my 50 a day dropped to four or five and about ten days ago, I cut out those last few. I've even gotten my mother (50-year smoker) to give e-cigs a try. I'm down to one toxin and will gradually reduce that until I'm just huffing flavoured steam. Big Tobacco is what's trying to crush e-cigs.

[PeaceNikki]

79. congrats to you! be proud and sing it from the mountaintop!

Glad that was in my cache.

[misterhighwasted]

82. "huffing flavored steam" That's beautiful.

Big Tobacco Oligarchys are probably grouping together trying to figure out just how to grab the market share of this Vaping phenom.

Scratching their heads while vaping & exchanging flavors I bet.
Secretly, they too have traded in their stinky smoky cigs for a big "huff of flavored steam".

Sweet!

[energumen]

94. people in the higher levels of the tobacco companies

tend not to smoke, at least that is what I've heard. They know better.

[misterhighwasted]

57. True. ecigs have evolved due in part to the remarkably creative minds of their

users.
Its also become a symbol of what Free Enterprise has always represented. Pride of independent ownership in the average small start up business. Be certain that this is NOT the model that Corporate America wants to see & will try their best to capitalize on the efforts of those that now can profit from their own little store.

Those corporations will be the ones throwing scathing reports as to the danger of vaping, out to their controlled news organizations in hopes of ridding the Nation of the small vape shops & eventually buying them up under their Corporate label & running them like the local McDonalds.
Its a battlefield out their & I hope that the vaping community continues to stay independent & successful just as they are now.

BTW..those disposables marketed by Big Tobacco, the ones you can buy at any Walmart/Walgreens are really disgusting.
They don't hold a candle to the great Ejuices & vaping accessories found in serious E cig shops.

Long live the independent vape shop owner. I wish them success & long and healthy lives.

[PeaceNikki]

60. sing it.

[misterhighwasted]

75. LOL Thank You PeaceNikki. Oh ya, guess what else..My voice is clearer..I can sing again too!!

Ha

[PeaceNikki]

77. congrats!! be proud!

[Prophet 451]

64. I support indie vape shops for the same reason I support indie book stores

Essentially, I'm extremely anti-corporate (to the extent that I'd ban corporations if I could). When I buy my liquids from the three or four small indie webstores I use, that's money going to people who are vapers themselves, who know and care about the product they're putting out. It's money that's not going to some corporate behemoth that views it's customers as disposable units.

That, and the disposables put out by Big Tobacco taste revolting.

[tridim]

53. I wish eCigs were around when I started.

Because I would have never smoked more than one cigarette. Vaping is far superior.

[Prophet 451]

61. I don't know if I would have done

I started smoking because of per pressure (well, sort-of, the "cool kids" smoked and I wasn't one of them but wanted to be). Then I grew to actively enjoy it. Now, I've quit. Not because I stopped enjoying smoking but because I got teh same sensation from e-cigs in much nicer flavours so I stopped needing to smoke.

[misterhighwasted]

72. My story exactly. Yes it took a few tries & failures

and I finally found a flavor that just replaced all the desire for tobacco that I enjoyed. I loved the taste of my tobacco cigs. But my desire to maybe reduce the cigs was what made me stick with vaping.
Never ever thought I'd give up the nasty cancer sticks at all. But I did. And it happened in just three days after trying a flavor called Absolute Pin by Five Pawns.
Tried it at a local Vapefest & have never looked back.
Their flavors are a bit on the 'heady' side, unusual and my daughter hates it but I LOVE IT.
Good enough. It worked.

Happy Vaping to all of you.

May the Powers That Be bless all the independent Vape shop owners & may Free Enterprise prevail.

Yaaa..

[Prophet 451]

80. It took a few tries to find a decent tobacco flavour

Eventually, I found a flavour called "7 Wolves" that tastes a lot like Marlboro Reds (my preferred straight) and I've been alternating between that, a cherry and a cinnamon ever since.

[misterhighwasted]

85. Interesting. I refused to vape any fruity flavor in the beginning. Only tobacco flavor juices,

but nnever found one that replaced my beloved tobacco cig.
Then I tried a couple flavors from my son in law. they were ok but too sweet.
eventually I found the one that I loved. I also have a current flavor from Five Pawns called Perpetual Check. (They all have kinda weird names like that) There's only two that I really like but thats all I vape.

Point being: it may take a bit till you find the one that you find just right. Worth the search & you do meet the most interesting, knowledgeable & coolest people behind the counters at the Vape Shops.
They take absolute pride in their business.

[Prophet 451]

87. That's something I love

The people running the indie vape shops are vapers themselves who take pride in their product. Such a difference from corporates.

[Autumn]

83. I quit smoking with my vape pen. Fuck the tobacco companies.

e-cigs are the gateway to quitting.

[Prophet 451]

84. They have been for me

I was a heavy smoker for 25 years. The day I got my first proper e-cig, that dropped to four or five and about ten days ago, I cut those out as well. My doctor has started recommending e-cigs to people trying to quit on the grounds that, while nicotine isn't harmless, it's vastly less harmful, you can gradually reduce the amount of nicotine in your liquids and the percentage who manage to quit using an e-cig is lightyears ahead of the patches/gum method.

[Autumn]

86. I tried the disposables, they didn't work. I bought my e cig and 3 bottles of juice

Jan 31 by Feb I was on zero nicotine. No withdrawals, no cravings.

[Oilwellian]

95. I went from 36mgs to 0mgs in seven months

and don't miss the nicotine at all. After smoking for 40 years, I never thought I'd put those words in print. I don't miss the nicotine one iota. I expect one day I'll give up the vape completely. Still enjoy going through the motion and the sense of inhaling. That is obviously my greater addiction, but it's by far much better for me than sucking on a cigarette. I consider vapes to be one of the best inventions EVER, and personally know six people who have stopped smoking thanks to this incredible device.

In conclusion, electronic cigarettes have a very good safety profile and are likely to provide a gateway away from rather than into smoking. Users should be allowed to identify a product and dosage that suit them rather than have regulators decide what they must use. Evidence-based and proportionate regulation should be implemented, and all stakeholders should be involved in the regulatory process. If wisely regulated, electronic cigarettes have the potential to obsolete cigarettes and to save millions of lives worldwide. Excessive regulation, on the contrary, will contribute to maintain the existing levels of smoking-related disease, death and health care costs.

Signatories

Professor Jean-François Etter, PhD,

Associate Professor, Privat docent, Institut de santé globale, Faculté de médecine, Université de Genève, Switzerland.


Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos, MD

Researcher, Onassis Cardiac Surgery Center, Athens, Greece
Researcher, University Hospital Gathuisberg, Leuven, Belgium.


Professor Peter Hajek, PhD

Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry Queen Mary University of London, London, UK.


Dr. Jacques Le Houezec, PhD

Consultant in Public Health, Tobacco dependence, Rennes, France
& Honorary Lecturer, UK Centre for Tobacco Control Studies, University of Nottingham, UK.


Dr. Hayden McRobbie, MB ChB PhD

Reader in Public Health Interventions, Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Queen Mary University of London, UK.


Professor Chris Bullen, MBChB, PhD

Director, The National Institute for Health Innovation, The University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand.


Professor Lynn T. Kozlowski, PhD

Dean, School of Public Health and Health Professions, Professor of Community Health and Health Behavior, University at Buffalo, State University of New York, USA.


Dr. Mitchell Nides, PhD

President, Los Angeles Clinical Trials, Director, Picture Quitting, the Entertainment Industry's, Quit Smoking Program, Burbank, CA 91505, USA.


Professor Dimitris Kouretas, MD

Professor and Deputy Rector University of Thessaly, Greece.


Professor Riccardo Polosa, MD, PhD

Director of the Institute for Internal Medicine and Clinical Immunology, University of Catania, Italy.


Dr. Karl Fagerström, PhD

President, Fagerström Consulting AB, Vaxholm, Sweden.


Professor Martin Jarvis, Dsc

Emeritus Professsor of Health Psychology, Department of Epidemiology & Public Health, University College London, UK.


Dr. Lynne E. Dawkins, PhD

Senior Lecturer in Psychology, School of Psychology, University of East London, Stratford, London, UK.


Dr. Pasquale Caponnetto, Assistant Professor, Researcher

Centro per la Prevenzione e Cura del Tabagismo, Azienda Ospedaliero-Universitaria “Policlinico-V. Emanuele”, Università di Catania, Catania, Italy.


Professor Jonathan Foulds PhD

Professor of Public Health Sciences & Psychiatry, Penn State University, College of Medicine, Cancer Institute, Cancer Control Program, Hershey, PA 17033-0850, USA.

http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/2013-04-07-09-50-07/149-tpd-errors

[Prophet 451]

98. Wow, that's incredible

It took me six weeks just to finally kick the last few analogues (I went from 50 to about five instantly, took me six weeks to knock off those five). Bravo to you, sir!

And if you enjoy it, no reason to give up vaping entirely.