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What ought to be the response every time Republicans bring up Benghazi.... (Original Post) Triana May 2014 OP
Couldn't even keep THE PENTAGON safe. JaneyVee May 2014 #1
Excellent point! DJ13 May 2014 #3
"Pretends to revere the military" robbob May 2014 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author robbob May 2014 #50
Not to mention it's our intelligence agency. JaneyVee May 2014 #54
They Knew billhicks76 May 2014 #21
Operation Northwoods blkmusclmachine May 2014 #24
I've Read About That billhicks76 May 2014 #37
Amen! Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #2
Oh, pooh. Moral superiority gets you nowhere. Here's a more evil script: aquart May 2014 #4
Ack! pscot May 2014 #5
a compilation I put together ... napkinz May 2014 #6
That was mwyn8 May 2014 #15
WOW! Mongo IMPRESSED!!! calimary May 2014 #27
yep, exactly heaven05 May 2014 #41
That's a great job! secondvariety May 2014 #47
That's the motherload! StarryNite May 2014 #48
This is awesome! Haaa! n/t Triana May 2014 #58
I have been all day on twitter #Benghazi. I got a lot of hate :) The Straight Story May 2014 #7
Notice how quickly the Republican "mind" resorts to name-calling AngryDem001 May 2014 #8
Yep. And they are calling this bigger than watergate, etc The Straight Story May 2014 #9
Bigger than watergate? AngryDem001 May 2014 #36
Those asshats are foolish about Bush leading this country.. SummerSnow May 2014 #12
and when it was bill clintons term, it was white water . white water . white water . allan01 May 2014 #10
It was also Troopergate jmowreader May 2014 #26
Geshundheit Blue Owl May 2014 #11
LOL!!! n/t Moosepoop May 2014 #45
Well... genxlib May 2014 #13
Welcome to DU, genxlib! calimary May 2014 #28
Welcome genxlib! Gemini Cat May 2014 #34
The Marines barracks in Lebanon Gman May 2014 #14
Drives Me Crazy! jaxind May 2014 #16
I watched some of it in the last couple of days and NOWHERE did ANYONE bring up calimary May 2014 #30
Conservatives desperately NEED... nikto May 2014 #17
Why are we still talking about an October suprise that Romney fumbled? McCamy Taylor May 2014 #18
Slowly I turned, step by step.... PeoViejo May 2014 #19
How about we cut a fart Pyrzqxgl May 2014 #20
This one is better....... Pauldg47 May 2014 #22
Condoleeza Rice and George Bush bear responsibility for Benghazi and don't let them forget it. Nuh Uh May 2014 #23
Meh. The Straight Story May 2014 #29
Welcome to DU, Nuh Uh! calimary May 2014 #32
welcome to DU! renate May 2014 #57
.. Cha May 2014 #25
hmmmmm handmade34 May 2014 #31
WMD's? OldHippieChick May 2014 #33
Oooh yes! nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2014 #35
or, 13 Benghazi's under GW Bush and not a peep. . . B Calm May 2014 #38
Conservatives. Are. Phonies. Nothing new under the sun. zinnisking May 2014 #39
No kidding - Iraq anyone? nt TBF May 2014 #40
Or Pick any one of the foreign diplomatic attacks under Bush... LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #42
Is there maybe one link that refers to all of those? n/t eridani May 2014 #51
Sorry, I meant to include it LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #59
FWIW the meme they are creating is humbled_opinion May 2014 #53
This also I do not get LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #61
I think that discussion on funding humbled_opinion May 2014 #62
My answer lsewpershad May 2014 #43
Maybe we need a serious investigation of 9/11. nt pnwmom May 2014 #44
liberals always try to reason with unreasonable people. I do not! jonjensen May 2014 #46
"Cover your mouth" Blue Owl May 2014 #52
This is another good graphic mnhtnbb May 2014 #55
Even more pertinent: The Marine barracks bombings in Lebanon, 1983 on Reagan's watch Lydia Leftcoast May 2014 #56
and don't forget this..... spanone May 2014 #60

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
3. Excellent point!
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:08 PM
May 2014

The towers may be sacred ground, but the Pentagon was wrecked as well, and the GOP reveres the military.

Response to DJ13 (Reply #3)

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
21. They Knew
Sun May 4, 2014, 08:45 PM
May 2014

And they allowed 911 to happen to drag us into war and the Patriot Act. It's interesting that the taped conversations between the cockpit and air traffic control were destroyed immediately. As I pilot I know Boeing was flying 747s remotely to do crash tests as early as 1998. Also, it's curious that the hundreds of video cameras that caught the Pentagon being hit were seized and we aren't allowed to see them.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
24. Operation Northwoods
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:28 PM
May 2014
In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
37. I've Read About That
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:28 AM
May 2014

But the Coincidence Theorists and Disinfo Agents just cover their ears and yell nanananananananana. Fools, lemmings and ostriches are the loudest lately.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,384 posts)
2. Amen!
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:06 PM
May 2014

Not to even mention Iraq dare I say it.


This whole "conspiracy" seems to rest on whether the Administration wanted to "butter its bread" politically when it comes to the attack or if they were genuinely confused about what just happened (as is usually the case with things like this). Either way, it's impossible for me to see just how this is a topic that merits all of the time and attention that Republicans are giving it. But then of course, Republicans don't really have anything else to do, so.................

aquart

(69,014 posts)
4. Oh, pooh. Moral superiority gets you nowhere. Here's a more evil script:
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:13 PM
May 2014

Benghazi? YES! We need more hearings! We need a thorough investigation of the deadly failure of privatized security! And not just Benghazi! Snowden! The Navy Yard shootings! All privatized security catastrophes!

Last line usually shouted as rightwinger is fleeing down the block.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
7. I have been all day on twitter #Benghazi. I got a lot of hate :)
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:31 PM
May 2014

Their biggest rebuttal is Bush was a long time ago, Obama murdered 4 americans and covered it up (which, yes, I have heard more than a few times).

It has been insane on there but fun tormenting them and letting them know we don't all think like they do. People generally just call me an asshole or libtard.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
8. Notice how quickly the Republican "mind" resorts to name-calling
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:37 PM
May 2014

and ad hominem attacks when anyone dares call them out on their BS.

Or simply tells the truth.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
9. Yep. And they are calling this bigger than watergate, etc
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:41 PM
May 2014

I am just rolling and keep tweeting.

I did have a nice long twitter back and forth with one lady on it all. Very civil. But over all people call me names, to which I usually reply:

"Very emotional argument you have. You must be a conservative christian" Which flusters them some

Ah, their sweet sweet tears are so tasty. It is like vodka from the soul.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
12. Those asshats are foolish about Bush leading this country..
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:49 PM
May 2014

into a so called war. thousands died on both sides. There are no statute of limitations on murder

allan01

(1,950 posts)
10. and when it was bill clintons term, it was white water . white water . white water .
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:42 PM
May 2014

wasting monies we dont have to distarcat ,distort and lie . thanks for the post

genxlib

(5,517 posts)
13. Well...
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:50 PM
May 2014

It is a shame that a brave American was killed while serving in a war torn country and a lying administration told all kinds of stories about what really happened to cover their ass.

But then again. I am talking about Pat Tillman.

Such selective outrage.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
16. Drives Me Crazy!
Sun May 4, 2014, 08:16 PM
May 2014

It drives me absolutely crazy that the Democrats don't say this each and every time the Republicans bring up Benghazi. And, for the Rethugs to say "oh, that happened a long time ago," fine....but I just want to hear you say now just once that Bush fell asleep at the wheel! If they can come out and just say that once, then maybe I won't be so riled up every time they bring this up!

calimary

(81,044 posts)
30. I watched some of it in the last couple of days and NOWHERE did ANYONE bring up
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:54 PM
May 2014

the many GOP votes for the sequester that caused 70-some-odd million dollars in embassy security funding to be cut, OR the countless times Hillary Clinton and others appealed to Congress to appropriate more funding for embassy security. NOBODY mentioned that. WTF??? Does our side know that little about going on offense? Or even just about fighting, in general?


 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
17. Conservatives desperately NEED...
Sun May 4, 2014, 08:17 PM
May 2014

To be humiliated and laughed at on a constant, nationwide basis from now on.

Now, go out there and do your duty.

Nuh Uh

(47 posts)
23. Condoleeza Rice and George Bush bear responsibility for Benghazi and don't let them forget it.
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:18 PM
May 2014

Even Fox News reported on it: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/29/gitmo-detainees-return-terror/
I'm really disappointed Democrats haven't called them out before about this. If Condoleeza Rice and George Bush released terrorists from Gitmo in 2007, so they could go back to Libya to be terrorists and murder 4 Americans, is the real scandal and we should be screaming from the rooftops about it.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
29. Meh.
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:53 PM
May 2014

The real issues here are that those wanting to investigate Benghazi don't care about the people killed or what really happened. They don't. Period.

After 9/11/2001 bush and crew thwarted investigations, wouldn't release papers relevant to it, he later said Osama wasn't a priority, told 232 lies in run up to Iraq war (935 overall when you factor in his administration), and witnesses were intimidated.

But fox news and others didn't care. Because they don't care about the truth, just using dead people for politics. They lap up dead americans and parade them around when their leader isn't in power.

Bush sr gave the go ahead for Iraq to invade Kuwait. We know that now. These same people who say they just want to the truth and the "families of those who died deserve it" suddenly don't give a shit about those families.

Because they just care about manipulating their base, who pant like dogs for them and are cowards when it comes to really getting answers. They don't care when people die unless they can use their corpses for ratings and politics.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
32. Welcome to DU, Nuh Uh!
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:56 PM
May 2014

Good to have you with us! It just boggles the mind. I don't know what bugs me more - the ongoing Benghazi GOP Tourette's Syndrome, or the fact that we haven't heard even one major Dem hit back hard about it, or even hit back - at all.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
31. hmmmmm
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:56 PM
May 2014
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/breaking-protecting-our-embassies-costs-money


House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012....Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.

Ryan, Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security.

That's the problem with budget cutting: it sounds great when you're thumping tubs on the campaign trail in front of adoring tea party crowds, but when the actual work of governing comes up, those cuts have to come from actual programs that do actual things. Like protecting our embassies.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
42. Or Pick any one of the foreign diplomatic attacks under Bush...
Mon May 5, 2014, 12:24 PM
May 2014

1. Jan. 22, 2002: Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami Attacks Indian U.S. Consulate

Five policemen were killed and 16 injured in the eastern Indian city of Calcutta because of an attack on the U.S. consulate by militant group Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami. American employees including the consul-general in Calcutta, Christopher Sandrolini, were unscathed, and those injured and killed were all Indians.

2. June 14, 2002: Suicide Car-Bomb Outside U.S. Consulate in Karachi

Twelve people died in an attack outside the U.S. consulate in Karachi when militants exploded a car bomb. A Taliban splinter group referred to as Al-Qanoon, or "The Law," claimed responsibility for the attacks that also injured 51 people. Two hired guards, a Marine, and five Pakistani staff members were among the injured in the attack that followed then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's visit to the country.

3. Oct. 12, 2002: String Of Bali Bombings Included U.S. Consulate

The U.S. consulate in Indonesia was attacked as part of the 'Bali bombings' on a devastating October night. While there were no fatalities at the consulate, seven Americans were among the 202 dead at the coordinated blasts inside a bar and outside a nightclub.

4. Feb. 28, 2003: Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked For the Second Time in One Year

Gunmen rode up on a motorbike to the U.S. consulate's security checkpoints and rained gunfire killing two Pakistani police officers. One gunman arrested by paramilitary officers was found to have several rounds of ammunition prepared for what could have been a far more devastating attack.

5. May 12, 2003: 36 People Including 9 Americans Die After Terrorists Storm U.S. Compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

The State Department had warned of a potential strike against the Saudi days before gunmen infiltrated the Al Hamra Oasis Village and two others killing 36 people and wounding 160. This was the most devastating attack on a State Department employees to occur under Bush. The Saudi government cracked down on terrorists group but that did not prevent another attack to occur a year later in Jeddah.

6. July 30, 2004: Islamist Attacks U.S. Embassy in Tashkent, Uzbekistan

Two Uzbek security guards died in a bombing on the U.S. embassy in Tashkent days. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan claimed responsibility of the bombing after 15 alleged Islamist militants went on trial.

7. Dec. 6, 2004: Five Staff and Four Security Guards Die in U.S. consulate attack in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

Gunmen fought their way into the complex, reportedly taking 18 staff and visa applicants hostage for a short time before Saudi security forces stormed the building. The final dead counted four security guards, five staff, and three attackers. No Americans were among the dead.

8. March 2, 2006: Third Attack on Karachi U.S. Consulate Killed U.S. Diplomat

U.S. Diplomat David Foy was specifically targeted in the third attack in as many years on the Karachi consulate compound. He was one of four people killed. The bomb occurred two days before President Bush was to visit Pakistan and also targeted the Marriot hotel in an upscale neighborhood of Karachi.

This was a planned and coordinated attack that nobody covered as more than a news item.

9. Sept. 12, 2006: Four Gunmen Stormed the U.S. compound in Damascus, Syria

Gunmen yelling "Allahu akbar " - "God is great" - fired on Syrian security officers guarding the U.S. embassy. The gunmen used grenades, automatic weapons, car bombs, and a truck bomb and killed four people and wounded 13 others. Condoleezza Rice, then Secretary of State praised the Syrians that defended the U.S. employees: "the Syrians reacted to this attack in a way that helped to secure our people, and we very much appreciate that."

10. Jan. 12, 2007: Greek Terrorists Fired a Rocket-Propelled Grenade at the U.S. Embassy

An antitank grenade was fired into the empty consulate building by leftist terrorist group Revolutionary Struggle angry at American foreign policy. Even though nobody was in the building at the time the attack was a blatant breach of security and showed enormous security loopholes.

11. March 18, 2008: A Mortar is Fired at the U.S. Embassy in Sana’a, Yemen

Similar to the Greek attack, a mortar was fired at the U.S. embassy building killing 19 people and injuring 16. This was the second attempt at a similar mortar attack on the embassy. The first one missed the embassy and hit a girls' school next door.

12. July 9, 2008: Three Turkish Policemen were Killed When Gunman Fired on the U.S. Consulate Istanbul, Turkey

Four attackers drove up to the high-walled compound of the U.S. Consulate and started shooting the security guards. The gun battle took the lives of three of the attackers but the fourth one drove off. No Americans were injured or killed.

13. Sept. 17, 2008: 16 People Including 2 Americans Die in an Orchestrated Attack on the U.S. Embassy Sana’a, Yemen

An arsenal of weapons including rocket-propelled grenades and two car bombs were involved in the second attack on the embassy in seven months. Eighteen-year-old American Susan El-Baneh and her husband of three weeks died holding hands.

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I like #8 because its could be catchy like Benghazi......KARACHI!......KARACHI!...KARACHI! MSNBC should be shouting this word out every day. Even if its just a way to make a point.

Honestly, there isn't even a carcase left of the dead horse they are beating.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
53. FWIW the meme they are creating is
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:05 PM
May 2014

that those were terrorist attacks no doubt, but Bush and Condi never blamed them on a youtube video that mocked Islam...

That in a nutshell is their key complaint, i.e., that for political reasons that attack happening so close to a U.S. election a coordinated White House/State Dept effort was undertaken to blame a video instead of taking responsibility for a broader failure of U.S. policy in the region.... i.e. Why was Ambassador Stevens even there on 9/11 and shortly after the country had executed its former leader?

I have been going at it with the teaheads at my job regarding this and I was told today to sit down and shut the PLAME up....

LOL...

Politics is a lovely sport.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
61. This also I do not get
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:56 PM
May 2014

As it seemed at the time completely plausible that that video, at least in part, was responsible. If nothing else it was used as a cover for the killers to piggy-back off of the angry crowds.

The OP makes a good point. Terrorist attacks will happen no matter what security steps are taken. What matters is what is the response to it after. The House Republicans cut embassy security by $500,000,000 in the years before. Why isn't THAT an important part of the discussion?

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
62. I think that discussion on funding
Thu May 8, 2014, 10:02 AM
May 2014

is extremely important but the right will argue that it is either those cuts or cut WIC, SNAP, WELFARE, Social Security, Medicare and Obamacare. The country must be educated before its too late, there is a 17 Trillion dollar and growing National Debt still large deficits in spending and if the Fed ever stops pumping money the interest rates on that existing debt are going to skyrocket... I fear that when that happens the rich will bail out of America and the rest of us will get stuck with the bill taking a huge cut in our own standard of living....

If you dare talk about cutting the military you will now be accused of supporting Russian world domination.....

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
46. liberals always try to reason with unreasonable people. I do not!
Mon May 5, 2014, 02:37 PM
May 2014

democrats control senate how about some hard hitting hearings on iraq katrina and 9-11? The best defense is a good offense! Drag in republicans to investigate their voter suppression in their states!

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
56. Even more pertinent: The Marine barracks bombings in Lebanon, 1983 on Reagan's watch
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:26 PM
May 2014

241 Marines killed on October 23, 1983.

I never thought it was coincidental that Reagan ordered the invasion of Grenada on October 25, 1983, just as he was under criticism for putting the Marines in harm's way in a civil war that was none of our business.

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