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$25 for Overhead Bins? (Original Post) liberal N proud Apr 2014 OP
At some point it will be cheaper to overnight your luggage via UPS. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #1
That's quite popular already jberryhill Apr 2014 #4
Or plan ahead a little and send a box of stuf via the US postal service. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #7
I do that with my equipment when I fly. progressoid Apr 2014 #9
Why UPS when the USPS offers the same service for a lesser cost? tenderfoot Apr 2014 #27
I've done that. The_Commonist Apr 2014 #30
I used to do that during the Bush years when I was always (and I mean always) MADem May 2014 #77
Will they charge for seatbelts next? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #2
Breathing the air, of course! LiberalEsto Apr 2014 #5
Seatbelts? Ryanair wanted to eliminate SEATS! Xithras May 2014 #81
That's ridiculous. Xyzse Apr 2014 #3
I Have Almost Never Used Overheads ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #6
Can understand. Xyzse Apr 2014 #8
They don't care about sizes of bags....they care about wringing more cash out of us... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #10
Not Really Buying That ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #21
Not buying it....putting it on everyone's ticket would make them have to compete on THAT price point VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #22
I Remain Unconvinced ProfessorGAC May 2014 #40
The fees are the single biggest profit for airlines liberal N proud Apr 2014 #23
I Know All That ProfessorGAC May 2014 #41
Exactly......this is the new Capitalism... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #56
Or....it is a good thing joeglow3 May 2014 #61
Uh no..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #73
Uh yes... joeglow3 May 2014 #75
this is ridiculous..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #79
That was a problem of their own creation, Ms. Toad May 2014 #42
ITA! nt raccoon Apr 2014 #17
that is my complaint, too. CTyankee May 2014 #50
I'm not saying it's right but lost-in-nj Apr 2014 #11
Good. DURHAM D Apr 2014 #12
What's good about this exactly? Initech Apr 2014 #16
I can think of a couple of good things about this Major Nikon May 2014 #48
My dad flew a '46 Ercoupe for many years ....... oldhippie May 2014 #53
If I carry 4 people I sometimes have to mail the bags Major Nikon May 2014 #54
It's been my experience that most airlines only allow you to carry-on two items penultimate May 2014 #67
They establish those rules and then routinely ignore them Major Nikon May 2014 #68
You enjoy extra fees? liberal N proud Apr 2014 #24
I always pay to check my luggage DURHAM D Apr 2014 #25
You must not need that leg room liberal N proud Apr 2014 #33
Physically impossible for me to put anything under the seat in front of me. I'm 6'2" MillennialDem May 2014 #43
Exactly! liberal N proud May 2014 #46
Shorties don't get it. Had a flight attendent tell me to put my laptop bag under the seat in MillennialDem May 2014 #49
It's only for take-off and landing... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #66
omg you dont get it MillennialDem May 2014 #70
I'm 6' 1" and I do it all the time. Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #71
a lot of guys round up. im a woman and 6'2 barefoot. smaller feet than you but longer inseam i bet MillennialDem May 2014 #72
So do I, indirectly Retrograde Apr 2014 #36
That's what happens with a no-frills airline. Fees, fees, fees. mwooldri Apr 2014 #13
What's next? Pay toilets? badtoworse Apr 2014 #14
On one British cut rate airline, yes. JayhawkSD Apr 2014 #15
Unbelievable badtoworse Apr 2014 #18
Could be a reality... mwooldri Apr 2014 #19
Bill Maher had a great new rule about this a while back: Initech Apr 2014 #39
Pay the fee, pay a higher ticket price, or ... dumbcat Apr 2014 #20
Still is Major Nikon May 2014 #51
sorta support this oldandhappy Apr 2014 #26
The passengers ability to get the bag up there has nothing to to do with it liberal N proud Apr 2014 #32
yep. I was sort of hoping the fee would stop the use of the bin. oldandhappy Apr 2014 #37
I check my bag and bring my laptop backpack only on the plane (with laptop of course, I'm MillennialDem May 2014 #44
when the general masses act on total costs this will stop whatthehey Apr 2014 #28
^^^^^^^^^truth Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #38
Precisely jberryhill May 2014 #52
Is that luggage, or seating? longship Apr 2014 #29
I guess if you can fit in the overhead bin liberal N proud Apr 2014 #31
I once rode in the overhead bin on a bus. nt HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #34
I could go for this.... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #35
How about a laptop backpack? I'm not checking that. Maybe even just eliminate rolling MillennialDem May 2014 #45
It it can be stowed under the seat, it flies for free Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #64
That's reasonable enough - actually a better compromise than overhead free/$25 checked. sir pball May 2014 #69
I only bring on a backpack and purse that fit under the seat. tammywammy May 2014 #62
It's not that I mind the fees... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #65
How much to ride in the cargo hold? :) MillennialDem May 2014 #47
Unfortunately it's now illegal to send your kids through the post Major Nikon May 2014 #55
Consumers wanted deregulation... /nt October May 2014 #57
Republicans wanted it... flashcloud May 2014 #63
Agree, in that republican have exploited it... but Carter signed it into law in 1978 October May 2014 #83
I've noticed passengers bringing steamer trunks on board to avoid paying checked-luggage fees KansDem May 2014 #58
Airlines blame the passengers for the large bags when they don't enforce the size limitations liberal N proud May 2014 #60
How about $25 to recline your seat? I would support that Recursion May 2014 #59
NO. I must recline my seat; sitting straight upright for prolonged periods causes me back pain. northoftheborder May 2014 #76
And having the seat in front of me shoved into me causes me chest pain Recursion May 2014 #82
The notion of low-cost flights is an advertising ploy & nothing else Hekate May 2014 #74
Where do you put your coat? Around here in winter, you bundle up until on the plane. Shrike47 May 2014 #78
I would guess they will tell you to stick it under your seat liberal N proud May 2014 #80

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. Or plan ahead a little and send a box of stuf via the US postal service.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:33 AM
Apr 2014

I've done it. It's cheap and it works.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
30. I've done that.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:14 PM
Apr 2014

Not going, but on the way home.
A couple of times.
I don't know if it was cheaper, but it was certainly easier and more fun.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
77. I used to do that during the Bush years when I was always (and I mean always)
Thu May 1, 2014, 06:07 PM
May 2014

selected for additional screening. I got tired of the TSA tossing my bags, so I'd board the plane with clothing/shoes that had no metal, and a wallet.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
5. Breathing the air, of course!
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:31 AM
Apr 2014

Banks have added so many fees in recent years that I fully expect them to start charging for breathing the air in their lobbies.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
81. Seatbelts? Ryanair wanted to eliminate SEATS!
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:58 PM
May 2014

A couple of years ago they wanted to introduce "standing room" aircraft, where the passengers would hold bars and overhead straps like on a bus. Citing safety concerns, regulators blocked their plan.

ProfessorGAC

(64,184 posts)
6. I Have Almost Never Used Overheads
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:31 AM
Apr 2014

I have always traveled very light, and i have to check bags all the time because i carry syringes on trips. So, what i have to take on a plane is very little and takes only an old laptop bag.

I think rather than charging $25, they should more strictly and stringently limit the size of the bags one can carry on. Then there would be more space for everyone's stuff and wouldn't delay the boarding process while someone is trying to fit a doghouse into the overhead bin.
GAC

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
10. They don't care about sizes of bags....they care about wringing more cash out of us...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:35 AM
Apr 2014

They won't let you hold a bag in your lap....BUT you have to pay to put it in the overhead bin!

That is all!

ProfessorGAC

(64,184 posts)
21. Not Really Buying That
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:56 AM
Apr 2014

They could just add $8 to every ticket, nobody would notice, and it wouldn't be news.

They are making a broader play here because delayed loading times for small airport airlines cost them tons and speeding up the boarding process and leaving the gate on time saves them WAY more money than what they'll take in on this venture.

I know your point seems obvious, but this extra cash flow is not likely the motivator.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
22. Not buying it....putting it on everyone's ticket would make them have to compete on THAT price point
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:08 AM
Apr 2014

with their competitors. THIS keeps the cost OFF the advertised price. Damn near EVERYONE needs the overhead bin....per THEIR rules.

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
23. The fees are the single biggest profit for airlines
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:11 AM
Apr 2014

Ticket prices vary from day to day, hour to hour because they are competing for your business. Once they get your business, they start tacking on the fees, checked bag fee, fee for a blanket, fee for a pillow, fee to listen to their version of entertainment and fee for the headsets. Drinks, food and all the other stuff is all an added fee to drive profit because it is fixed.

ProfessorGAC

(64,184 posts)
41. I Know All That
Thu May 1, 2014, 07:53 AM
May 2014

Still don't think this is a directly fiscal move. Think it's intended to remove hidden costs.

It's money either way, but the fees are not the driver IMO.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
61. Or....it is a good thing
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:28 AM
May 2014

Back in the old days, you had to pay out the ass for top of the line service. Airline travel was a social event and you even dressed for it. A downfall of this was that only the rich could afford it. What if you just needed to get from point A to point B and were willing to bypass pillows, a hot meal, etc? Too bad. Pay for all luxuries or drive.

What this ala cart service does is allow individuals who don't need the luxuries to avoid paying them, thereby making the base flight more affordable to more people. These things don't bother me because I am a tight ass and will do anything I can to avoid any fees charged.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
73. Uh no.....
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:19 PM
May 2014

are they going to fly and wear the same clothes all week....this will NOT drop prices of tickets....sorry to disappoint you.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
75. Uh yes...
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:52 PM
May 2014

The person flying with nothing costs the airline less than the traveler with 2 carry-on's and 3 checked bags. What this does is essentially break out the costs on your bill and only charges you for what you use.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
79. this is ridiculous.....
Thu May 1, 2014, 07:21 PM
May 2014

you think this is about keeping prices low? Seriously????

Should they also charge you extra if you use the facilities too? After all....your waste products take up space too...

GMAFB....

Ms. Toad

(33,896 posts)
42. That was a problem of their own creation,
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:48 AM
May 2014

when they started charging for checked luggage. If cash flow isn't the issue, stop charging for checked bags - problem solved.

CTyankee

(63,708 posts)
50. that is my complaint, too.
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:19 AM
May 2014

I know people are concerned about lost bags and I get that. But it's gotten out of hand. I have to check my bag since I wouldn't be able to lift it over my head. And it's a medium size bag, just perfect for 10 days in Europe or out to California to visit family. It's actually pretty lightweight (one of those silver metal ones) but easier for me to negotiate through airports...

lost-in-nj

(18,339 posts)
11. I'm not saying it's right but
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:35 AM
Apr 2014

Every time I fly a lot of people have their carry on bags as their only bag and almost every time we are waiting at the gate an announcement comes on about capacity and how the overheads will be full. So they ask everyone to gate check their carry ons for free and pick them up at the end of the flight. People have found a way to by pass the fee for checking luggage and I would guess frontier got tired of it. I expect to see more airlines do this. Now either way you will pay for your luggage. I don't know why they charge other than greed....



lost

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
48. I can think of a couple of good things about this
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:17 AM
May 2014

For one thing, it will deter people who somehow manage to bring 4 carry-ons (bag, laptop bag, huge purse/briefcase, large coat) and then inconsiderately try to stuff them all in the overhead so you either wind up with no space by the time you get on or they delay the flight because their shit doesn't fit and has to be checked.

Another thing is you can at least control your total cost by limiting the number of bags you bring. The airline is going to get their money either through fees or through fares. One of those things I can control. I never bring more than 1 carry on size bag regardless of whether I'm traveling 2 days or 2 weeks. I would just as soon let people who don't know how to pack pay more so I can pay less.

Then again, I have my own airline and don't travel commercial all that often. It has 4 seats and cruises at 155 mph and if you are lucky enough to travel on my airline you don't get to take more than 1 bag, period as I don't have that much space and more shit = less fuel due to weight and balance limitations.



 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
53. My dad flew a '46 Ercoupe for many years .......
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:39 AM
May 2014

He used to fly it with a buddy from Illinois to Florida every year for Sun & Fun. They always mailed their bags to FL. The only thing they would take on the plane was a toiletry kit. He said they needed all the fuel they could carry, not clothes.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
54. If I carry 4 people I sometimes have to mail the bags
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:49 AM
May 2014

The useful load of my plane is 1048 lbs and it will carry up to 474lbs of fuel. If I'm only flying for 2 hours I can reduce my fuel load by about half. I always have at least 1 hour reserve.

The Ercoupe is a nice little airplane. There's still a lot of them flying.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
67. It's been my experience that most airlines only allow you to carry-on two items
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:32 AM
May 2014

You get a small personal item (purse/laptop bag) and another bag/case to put into the bins. To charge extra to bring shit with you on your trip is ridiculous. It's one thing to charge extra for those who bring too much, but it's totally different to charge people for bring anything.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
68. They establish those rules and then routinely ignore them
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:44 AM
May 2014

They can hardly be blamed for ignoring them. The person scanning tickets has generally 80-300 people to get through the gate in a short period of time. They can hardly be expected to hold up the line policing everyone who brings on too many carry-ons. People routinely take advantage of this.

You also have consumers that seem to only care about what the base ticket price is because all they know to do is compare apples to oranges. If one airline charges $200 for a ticket between A and B and another charges $205 for the same route, which one do you think the consumer is going to select regardless of fees? The entire system rewards airlines which collect revenue through fees rather than tickets.

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
24. You enjoy extra fees?
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:13 AM
Apr 2014

They are nickel and dime'ing travelers to death. Only those nickels are $25 and the dimes are $50.

DURHAM D

(32,580 posts)
25. I always pay to check my luggage
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:25 AM
Apr 2014

and my carry-on fits under the seat in front of me. I never use the overhead bins because it just slows down the loading, causes arguments at the gate, causes fights among passengers and makes extra work for the attendants. I have even had bags dropped on me while in my seat.

When provided an online survey after a flight I have been suggesting for years that they charge for bags stored over-head. I guess they finally listened to me.

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
33. You must not need that leg room
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:47 PM
Apr 2014

Putting your bag under your seat and the cramping your legs and feet in the few inches that are left is not healthy.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
49. Shorties don't get it. Had a flight attendent tell me to put my laptop bag under the seat in
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:17 AM
May 2014

front of me. She was about a foot shorter. "No, I can't". Luckily it did fit in the overhead bin (had to play tetris). Then at the end of the flight she tells me to put my seat back to upright. I only reclined because the person in front of me did. "I can't go back upright" "yes you can" "no, I physically cannot until he puts his seat up".

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
66. It's only for take-off and landing...
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:13 AM
May 2014

You can have your laptop out during flight keep the bag on the floor right in front of your seat -- allowing you to stretch your legs under the seat in front of you.

These days, whenever possible, I leave the laptop at home and travel with my tablet.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
70. omg you dont get it
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:54 AM
May 2014

even the empty bag does not fit under the seat in front of me. hell even my feet dont fit in the seat in front of me..

there is a bar that stops my feet from going to underneath the space of the person in front of me....

Retrograde

(10,063 posts)
36. So do I, indirectly
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:57 PM
Apr 2014

I use an airline credit card that allows a free checked bag. Even if I didn't, since most of my trips involve a change in O'Hare the relatively small (compared to the price of the ticket) fee is worth it not to have to haul a bag from C40 to F12 (which I think is the longest distance while staying on one airline and which I've done more than once). As I get older and less spry I find myself having more difficulty doing some things I once took for granted. I take a small bag on board with the things I can't lose - prescription drugs, a small laptop, change of underwear - that fits under the seat. On some planes I can't even reach the overhead bins!

BTW, United (at least last year) had a very nice toiletries kit for people whose luggage got delayed. And they delivered the bag to my hotel as soon as it arrived.

mwooldri

(10,291 posts)
13. That's what happens with a no-frills airline. Fees, fees, fees.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:46 AM
Apr 2014

I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Ryan-air, but its CEO has come out saying things like charging for using the bathroom in the plane. You may get the best price ticket, but when you factor in all the other things it might be best just to fly with one of the big carriers and get something that resembles a service.

mwooldri

(10,291 posts)
19. Could be a reality...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:53 AM
Apr 2014

I posted about this... but here's a nice link to go along with it... http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/17/travel/ryanair-money-saving-schemes - charging for toilets, removing toilets, standing room only, boarding pass printing fees, charging for overweight passengers... Ryanair has grown to be a big carrier but if they can charge for it, they most likely will do just that.

Initech

(99,881 posts)
39. Bill Maher had a great new rule about this a while back:
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:58 PM
Apr 2014

"New rule: Ryan Air, the airline that wants to charge you for pay toilets, must merge with Spirit Airlines, the airline that wants to charge you for using overhead baggage space, to create a new airline called "Shitbag Airlines". "

dumbcat

(2,118 posts)
20. Pay the fee, pay a higher ticket price, or ...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:53 AM
Apr 2014

... don't fly. I would prefer people didn't fly. Air travel used to be a lot more enjoyable (well, tolerable anyway.)

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
26. sorta support this
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:29 AM
Apr 2014

Have had some near misses with people not able to handle their own over stuffed bags. I check my bag and walk on with a very small bag holding my book and tickets.

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
32. The passengers ability to get the bag up there has nothing to to do with it
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:46 PM
Apr 2014

They may still pay the fee and then need help getting their bag in the bin and then will just drag it out on the head of someone when they de-plane.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
44. I check my bag and bring my laptop backpack only on the plane (with laptop of course, I'm
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:00 AM
May 2014

not going to check that!).

It easily fits in the overhead, much smaller than the huge rolling suitcases that people try to cram in.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
28. when the general masses act on total costs this will stop
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:45 AM
Apr 2014

As long as idiots keep buying $199rt tickets that end up costing $350 over a $300 alternative, and still continue with the transaction once total fees are disclosed before charging as they always are, that's how airlines will price things.

With a more informed customer base the exact partition of costs is immaterial however. I see not a scintilla of difference between a ticket price of 199 plus 151 in fees or an all inclusive price of 350.

A while back I even proved this on a hobbyist site where collectors sold small and fragile but expensive goods to each other. Most of us, me included, quoted prices including shipping. Some then started separating the cost, but always disclosing shipping upfront. So I'd sell you an XYZ for $250 shipped and someone else would sell you one for $230+$20 shipping. Some naturally complained that shipping did not cost $20, ignoring the finicky packaging and handling needed, and started refusing to buy from such sellers even though the total cost was exactly in line. To prove a point and that this was silliness, I started advertising mine for $15 plus $230 shipping and handling, no local pickup allowed. Being $5 cheaper overall, I would always get plenty of takers.

As long as the airline's total charge meets or undercuts the competition, then the breakdown is financially irrelevant. They can charge me $1 and $349 air recirculation fee for all I care. But if there are idiots who would buy that given the option of a $300 fare with no fee, then the customer is to blame as all booking sites I've ever seen disclose all fees before finalizing transactions.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
35. I could go for this....
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:56 PM
Apr 2014

IF they would reduce the price of checked bags to encourage people to check their bags rather than carry on.

As someone who travels frequently, I'm annoyed as hell at the shit people being on the plane. Your fucking skateboard? REALLY?

I'd prefer a purse/briefcase ONLY rule.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
45. How about a laptop backpack? I'm not checking that. Maybe even just eliminate rolling
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:08 AM
May 2014

luggage from being carry on, other than for seniors or people with medical conditions?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
64. It it can be stowed under the seat, it flies for free
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:05 AM
May 2014

Charge $25 for the overhead. First checked bag is free. Second checked bag is $25.

For most business travelers, that means your laptop travels with you at no charge, and you can either check your small wheeled bag for free or (for your convenience) pay the $25 to have it ride in the overhead.

sir pball

(4,706 posts)
69. That's reasonable enough - actually a better compromise than overhead free/$25 checked.
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:50 AM
May 2014

I almost exclusively fly an airline which gives me two carryons and one checked for free, so I have no horse in this race. Regardless, 9 out of 10 times I just have an underseat backpack and a normal carryon-sized rolly bag. I never put anything important (laptop, keys, wallet, etc.) in the rolly anyway so I'd be fine checking it, I sometimes will gate-check to be polite, but it's pretty unreasonable to expect a person to be able to fit all their supplies for more than a weekend trip into a backpack. Overhead or checked, 98% of travellers are going to need some kind of larger solution.

Spirit's actually been doing this for a while, $26/carryon and $21/first checked...and their fares, at least out of NYC, definitely aren't $26 cheaper than jetBlue. Actually, just checked for a flight I already have booked - they're thirty dollars more with no luggage whatsoever. I'll take my free bags, seatback TV, full can of soda and three bags of snacks (the attendants just sort of throw them around by the handful), and epically awesome terminal, thanks.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
62. I only bring on a backpack and purse that fit under the seat.
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:29 AM
May 2014

I only fly for leisure, not business. I do understand people that are on business that just want to throw their carry-on luggage in the overhead and not wait on checked luggage.

Plus I'm short, and it just seems like a pain to get my bag up there. and more hassle (for me and those in my immediate vicinity) than it's worth.

I'm taking a trip later this summer to Vermont. Spirit Airlines is way cheaper than Delta/United/AA to get into Boston, but then if you figure in all the fees it's not.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
65. It's not that I mind the fees...
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:10 AM
May 2014

Given the way the airlines go in and out of bankruptcy, it doesn't appear like they're making a whole lot of money. In 2012, the industry as a whole reported a profit margin of 0.1%

So I don't begrudge them making a profit. Part of me just thinks, "Hell just charge me an extra $100 per ticket and do away with ALL the fees." But then you get the dude with the downhill ski's trying to carry them on.

Boarding is a pain in the ass when everyone is fighting for overhead space. The fees could a useful "social engineering tool" to get people to check their bags. But right now, charging checked bag fees is causing people to try to carry on EVERYTHING. Did I mention that's a pain in the ass?

October

(3,363 posts)
83. Agree, in that republican have exploited it... but Carter signed it into law in 1978
Tue May 13, 2014, 05:44 PM
May 2014

Unfortunately.

And, I'm a fan of Carter, but this was disappointing.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
58. I've noticed passengers bringing steamer trunks on board to avoid paying checked-luggage fees
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:16 AM
May 2014

They'd hoist them up into the overhead bins and the spaces would fill up fast. Once, when I was at the back of the boarding line, I was told there wasn't any more space and I'd have to check through my attache case. I wasn't charged a "checked-luggage" fee.

I really didn't mind that time since the flight was only a couple of hours and I really didn't need my attache case during that time. But occasionally I fly with a musical instrument and would not have had it checked through for any reason!!

It was just a matter of time since the overhead bins now are being used as cargo holds.

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
60. Airlines blame the passengers for the large bags when they don't enforce the size limitations
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:23 AM
May 2014

Those aluminum square gages they have at the gates which more than half of the checked luggage will not fit in are rarely if ever used.

If it is about space and not revenue, then the airlines could just do a better job of limiting the bags they allow to go down the jet-way.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
59. How about $25 to recline your seat? I would support that
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:19 AM
May 2014

We need to wean people from the idea that reclining airplane seats is OK...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
82. And having the seat in front of me shoved into me causes me chest pain
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:04 AM
May 2014

Why does your need win out over mine?

Hekate

(89,977 posts)
74. The notion of low-cost flights is an advertising ploy & nothing else
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:26 PM
May 2014

Personally, I consider the advertised fare to be the base price, like the base price on a car. Do I want a Porsche (first class seating)? No. Very nice, but unaffordable.

What I need is to check my bags (+$25), to stow my CPAP in the overhead bin (should be free, as it's medically necessary), use the toilet (if they charge for that, add it to the base price) and so on. Be sure to add on the new fees/taxes. THAT's the true cost of your ticket.

I shop around for a good price, to be sure, but I never ever take the base price to be the actual fare. Some marketing agency did surveys that showed that what consumers want above all is Low Fares -- even if they are an illusion.

I wish there were a meaningful Passengers' Bill of Rights, but that's another story.

liberal N proud

(60,289 posts)
80. I would guess they will tell you to stick it under your seat
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:50 PM
May 2014

Where it can get covered with whatever is on your shoes. Or they will say pony up.

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