Bundy Ranch Supporter Talks About Shooting "Deserters" in the Back, Refers to Ranch as a Battlefield

[951-Riverside]

Starting at 2:20 (They're referring to the Oafkeepers leaving the Ranch).

Insurgent wearing the black shirt: "This man and The people that obeyed that order have violated my personal creed."

Other insurgent: "Absolutely"

Insurgent wearing the black shirt: "You don't fucking walk in and say I'm sorry and you're back in brother, you can walk in and say you're sorry and you're lucky that you're not getting shot in the back because that's what happens to deserters on the battlefield"

Other insurgents: "Amen brother, amen"

These are the same people harassing locals and setting up checkpoints on public roads.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25371465/concerns-growing-about-militia-members-at-bundy-ranch

[FSogol]

1. Who will they blame when they start shooting each other?

[The Magistrate]

9. 'False Flag' Infiltrators, Sir....

And I can think off-hand of several here who might agree.

[FSogol]

11. True. n/t

[951-Riverside]

84. Right on queue...

Oath Keepers Fire Back At Bundy Security: 'They're FBI Infiltrators' --LMFAO

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This is not snark. The events in this diary actually are happening and did happen.

The Oath Keepers took to their website and accused Bundy's top Security crew, Booda Bear, Ryan Paine & Jerry 'somebody' of being FBI infiltrators. This happened roughly 24 hours after Bundy's top security crew, Booda Bear & his two underlings, Ryan & Jerry, kicked the Oath Keepers off the ranch and accused them of: "stealing' being "deserters," "traitors," committing "treason of the highest order" and learning that Ryan Paine said, on video, that the Oath Keepers were "lucky [they're] not getting shot in the back' for deserting the Bundy battlefield."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/30/1295810/-Oath-Keepers-Fire-Back-At-Bundy-Security-They-re-FBI-Infiltrators-LMFAO

Just last friday (4/25) the Oafkeepers claimed there was going to be a drone strike in "48 hours".

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[FSogol]

85. Ryan, keep a watch on those hills. Jerry secure the perimeter. Booda Bear, you stay here and

think up a better code name.*








* Stolen from the Homestar Runner guys.

[butterfly77]

52. Can't wait for that to happen..

[Warren DeMontague]

74. ..."the Negro"?

[Arkansas Granny]

2. I am truly surprised that someone hasn't been killed or injured already in this fiasco.

[Agnosticsherbet]

3. Sounds like a death squad waiting to happen. n/t

[kcdoug1]

4. Good

maybe they'll kill each other off...

[HooptieWagon]

5. As predicted, the Feds backing off has only emboldened the militants.

Its WAY past time these assholes be rounded up and jailed. If the job is too big for local law enforcement, then use FBI, BATF, and National Guard. And their finances should be looked in to... anyone contributing money, food, supplies; should be charged with supporting terrorism.

[northoftheborder]

29. agree. this is a volatile group just looking for an excuse to blow up.

[Raksha]

54. Absolutely! If a bunch of Occupiers had the gall to set up a checkpoint anywhere in the country

all of that would have happened already. They would have been instantly labeled terrorists, and the FBI, BATF and National Guard would have already been deployed, and all the Occupiers would most likely be dead.

The double standard in this country sickens me, along with the arbitrary definition of who is or is not a "terrorist." It's a word that is rapidly losing whatever meaning it may once have had.

[Politicalboi]

60. Drone them

Or let them have a hot ass summer while waiting for the Feds who aren't coming. How many months can they survive without working, or seeing their family. Are they willing to lose all they have for this moocher. Time will tell.

[HooptieWagon]

65. Barricading them certainly a good idea.

Let them swelter in the desert heat for a few weeks, until playing Rambo isn't so much fun anymore.

[2naSalit]

6. Just a matter of time.

Rats start to devour each other in a closed environment.

[bluedigger]

8. I've got to learn to type faster.

[2naSalit]

14. I've had that same problem

recently!



These clowns are about to actually get somewhat entertaining! They seem to have only enough brain cells to get them to crowd around an unstable cliff without recognizing what might happen next... kind of like cattle.

[bluedigger]

7. Rats always have a way of solving the competition for resources.

Have at it, Oathkeepers!

[oneofthe99]

10. How do these guys have all this time to just hangout there

[FSogol]

12. Government disability checks and farm subsidies?

[jberryhill]

13. Military pensions

[951-Riverside]

22. EBT cards and Tax Refunds n/t

[Chellee]

75. Mom nt

[Paladin]

15. Ignorant shitheads, playing war games that sane people gave up after childhood.

This is what happens when the militant gun culture is allowed to flourish. These asswipes have about as much to do with a "Well Regulated Militia" as do Bundy's freeloading cattle.

[jwirr]

26. Well said.

[johnlucas]

79. Playing Army Men. EXACTLY! Too much Call of Duty playing from these goofs

Just go to the Lazer Tag Galleria if you wanna play Army Man as adults.

These fools put themselves on YouTube, talk about Facebook, & have smartphones.
They mapped themselves out so easily for anybody to track them.

This ain't a videogame, kids.
This ain't an old Wild West movie, old guys.
Check into reality before it's too late.
John Lucas

[Paladin]

83. It would be funny, if it weren't for their obvious agenda:

An armed, bloody, and well-publicized confrontation with government personnel, as a means of drawing attention to their radical movement. And I remain convinced that the only reason these assholes have gotten to this point is that we have a black man in the White House.

[johnlucas]

86. Paladin, to some the Civil War was never over

All of these things we see are echoes of the Confederacy.
They have never been right with their defeat in the 1860s.
And ever since they seek to subvert or damage the United States Government in any way they can.
Internally and externally.

They hate the Union & with the very symbol of why the Civil War was fought sitting at the head of office in Obama, they are emboldened more than ever before to strike out against the Union.
Against the Unity. Against the United.

This is what happens when you don't finish the job.
The United States never finished cleaning up this Civil War mess & now the festering have developed molds & plagues that will continue to grow & evolve.
They never finished off those traitors in the 1800s so they & their descendants built themselves up in the 1900s & 2000s until we have what we see here.

They have ALWAYS been ready to restart that war.
When Civil Rights advancements started moving forward in the 1940s & 1950s, you saw these Confederate descendants break from the New Deal Coalition & then put up the Confederate Battle Flag in their state flags as protests.
You saw what they did in the 1960s before & after the Civil Rights Act & Voting Rights Act was put into place.

They're still fighting that war.
The Republican Party which was once the antagonists of the Confederates gave them the political structure to develop their plans.
When the Democrats atoned for their evil past by doing right by the Blacks, the Republicans chose to cling to power by absorbing this zombie coalition into their body.
The Confederates really don't care about the Republican Party or ANY party for that matter.
They use the party to damage the Union & all the advancements in this society since the downfall of the Southern Plantation system.
They're still in rebellion.

Luckily, these guys are just as stupid as those immoral slaveowners of the past.
There's just a lot of them, that's all. Takes time to see them go extinct.
Confederacies don't work. America has tried it twice & it failed both times.
There's gotta be a central command. An overpowering structure that protects against fiefdoms.
That's why Unions beat Confederacies each & every time.

A unified force will always beat a divided force.
These toy soldiers are already exampling how you can't have too many roosters in a henhouse.
The government backed off because they knew the infighting was inevitable.
They'll move in once these guys destroy themselves.
John Lucas

[Paladin]

87. Well put. I agree with you. (nt)

[pinboy3niner]

16. Idiot. Even on the battlefield it's a crime to shoot a deserter in the back. nt

[Aerows]

71. I guess when you live in

Nitwitistan, things are different ...

[pinboy3niner]

76. We actually covered this specifically in Army Infantry OCS training

The hypothetical example was a soldier not only deserting, but running toward enemy lines with the unit's radio codes. It was made very clear to us that shooting him would be a very wrong--and very illegal--response.

I wonder if this guy has ever been on a battlefield--and if so, how many battlefield desertions he witnessed. And how many deserters he shot in the back.

[StarryNite]

17. They sound like a healthy bunch

*cough* *cough* *cough*

[DearAbby]

18. sounds like JONESTOWN crap n/t

[jwirr]

25. And if they are really threatened it might turn into jonestown. I would not want to be living in

that area. These people are all crazy.

[StarryNite]

19. @10:24 Guy on right in plaid

seems to be getting a little excited.

[1StrongBlackMan]

20. Watching these guys ...

reminds me of that film about the kids of a military academy that took over the school.

It was all good, until the real army lost their patience ... then, it was not so good.

[JoePhilly]

27. TAPS

[1StrongBlackMan]

35. Yep ...

That's the one!

But since these are grown ass men ... I don't imagine the real army will be as patient as those in the movie were with the kids.

I pray that no civilian gets shot by these clowns at the border checks check points, And I pray that these clowns don't start just firing rounds into the air; cuz if they do, it's gonna rain reality all over those clowns.

[JoePhilly]

36. I suspect at some point one of them will think another one of them ...

... is a FED, and shoot him. OR they'll shoot some sorry civilian who gets mouthy at a check point.

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Then ...

It ... Will ... Be ...On!

And no amount of Sorry will stop the storm.

[Kingofalldems]

21. Look at me mom, I'm an Army boy!!

[Jacoby365]

23. Wow.

Those guys are completely delusional.

[hobbit709]

24. sort of like the old Soviet commissars.

[gratuitous]

30. That's what I thought of

In World War II, the Red Army was getting routed by the Nazis who had superior training and weaponry. Orders came down from the highest levels that losing was no longer acceptable. Win the battle or die where you stand. Survivors and soldiers taken prisoner found that dying would have been preferable to returning to their units, as they were suspected of being collaborators.

Needless to say, morale wasn't very high in the Red Army, and these armed nitwits in Nevada are heading toward a very bloody denouement.

[liberal N proud]

28. Hannity might want to watch his back...

Are they talking about all the right wingers who supported them and now are mum?~

[northoftheborder]

31. Yeah, who are they referring to as "deserters"???

[Voice for Peace]

43. from what I could gather, sounded like some of the Oathkeepers? decided to leave camp

and go stay in a hotel.

You don't do that man, not on the battlefield.

[frylock]

49. but i took an oath for personal hygiene!

[pinboy3niner]

55. They believed a CT rumor that the ranch was being targeted for a U.S. drone strike, lol

Despite all their tough talk about combat and being willing to lay down their lives, they decided that hotel is the better part of valor.

[nobodyspecial]

77. Lay down *their* lives

Isn't this the group that was going to push the women to the front lines so they would be shot first?

[Marr]

32. If this was OWS, they'd have gassed them and rolled APCs through their ranks a long time ago. /nt

[HooptieWagon]

37. Yes, interesting contrast.

OWS was unarmed, peaceful, and legitimately exercising 1A rights. Yet the DOJ collaborated with local law enforcement in often violent shut-downs. And more than likely NSA was monitoring OWS communications.

OTOH, there is a group of armed militants who've openly stated their opposition to, and hostility towards, the Federal Govt. They have occupied Federal Land without permits, set up roadblocks on public highways, and repeatedly made threats of violence. Yet they're treated with kid gloves. WTF?

[Raksha]

61. You're right - the contrast could not be more glaring or more sickening.

[Raksha]

57. My thinking exactly.

I posted something to that effect upthread before I ever read your post.

[young_at_heart]

33. Setting up checkpoints on public roads???

Surely this can't be true!!

[arcane1]

34. Talk is cheap, dumb-asses.

[wandy]

38. Teapublican democracy in action. Is this our future.............

Can you imagine having to pass through a checkpoint maned by these fine loons to get home?

Before the violence breaks out some form of action should be taken.
General warrants for sedition and terrorism, freezing of assets, revoking licenses does not necessary involve violence.
Much of their bravado no doubt comes from strength in (relatively few) numbers and a gunmetal colored extension of their manhood.
Faced with real world Consequences at a one on one level, I suspect they would sing a different tune.
No need to take armed action, no need to create martyrs, an arrest warrant lasts until it is resolved.
At some time at least a few of these gang members may wish to resume a normal life.

This is not something one wishes to see coming to their home town.

[seabeyond]

39. the boys get to play, .... wild wild west, after all their western watchin'. nt

[Erose999]

40. This will end badly when the militias start squabbling over whose "in charge". The "Oafkeepers" and

the "III%" and the "White Mountain Rangers" and all the other groups will all be at each others' throats soon enough. Sanitation, electricity, food, etc etc. I don't think Bundy has the resources or leadership to hold a camp of that size together and there are a lot of alpha male egos in those militia groups.

[MohRokTah]

42. Cool, terrorists have publicly posted a terrorist council meeting on Youtube.

This will make it easier for the ?Feds to identify the terrorists and round 'em up to face trial for their treason against their country, having declared, IN THE VIDEO, that they are at war with the duly authorized government of the United States of America.

[johnlucas]

78. It just writes itself, doesn't it?

Damn.
These are some dumb MFers.

I'm waiting for the Lord of the Flies moment.
John Lucas

[bullwinkle428]

44. Delusional is not a strong enough word for these assholes.

[TeamPooka]

45. A lynch mob by any other name.... nt

[Blue Idaho]

46. Fast forward six months

All these jumped up little KKKowboys will be scattered to the four winds trying to convince some barfly buddy that they were the center of the cocked and locked universe on some pathetic little patch of cow shit sage brush in the middle of nowhere Nevada.

I don't give a fat rats ass what these nobody's think about nothing. They do not matter.

[kiranon]

47. How long before these "supporters" throw Bundy and his family

out of their house and home?

[Blanks]

48. The speaker looks to me like he's young enough...

To be in the REAL military.

I guess he fell into some kind of command position among Bundy's Rescue Rangers. He would have had to endure some kind of bullshit training if he'd tried to ACTUALLY serve.

Who can blame him eh?

[KamaAina]

50. Pat Benatar's a teabagger whackjob?

Who knew?

[HooptieWagon]

66. Pat Benatar... mmmm, still a hottie.

[randys1]

51. Everyone of these PUNKS should be in jail

and it infuriates me that some authority isnt chasing this F I L T H out of there.

[spanone]

53. morons in front of microphones

[doxydad]

56. How are these lunatics allowed...

...to continue harassing and intimidating the are folks? This is...at the very least, threatening behavior!

[951-Riverside]

59. Las Vegas Metro is kicking the ball around. They've made clear today they don't want to do anything

Metro Police say they investigating concerns a U.S. congressman raised about actions of militia members in northeast Clark County, but they’re not saying much more about the situation surrounding Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy and his armed supporters.

In a letter Sunday to Sheriff Doug Gillespie, Rep. Steve Horsford, D-Nev., wrote that his constituents were concerned about Bundy supporters carrying weapons near local churches, schools and elsewhere. Horsford, whose congressional district includes the area, also said militiamen had set up checkpoints on public roads and highways where drivers were stopped and asked to provide a proof of residency.

Metro Police Sgt. Jesse Roybal said today the department had received Horsford’s letter, was aware of complaints and allegations and were “investigating each report. As of this time, there are no criminal charges in any of these cases.”

Pressed further, Roybal said police were trying to verify Horsford’s claims but Roybal was not certain to what extent that investigation had gone.

Roybal added the sheriff was "in contact with multiple people in elected office" regarding the matter.

If someone does encounter the claimed checkpoints or people with guns near churches or schools, Roybal also said, "they need to report it to (Metro)."

Clark County Commissioner Steve Sisolak, who sits on Metro's Fiscal Affairs Committee, said he hadn't heard anything from Metro about Horsford’s concerns.

"I trust the sheriff to handle this," Sisolak added.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/29/metro/

[Earth_First]

63. Law enforcement also needs to also confer the message that these checkpoints are illegal...

and residents are by no means required to stop or show identification to anyone not officially involved in a law enforcement capacity.

It's a dangerous message to portray, however ot needs to be said...

[chrisstopher]

58. Where's Ted?

I would have thought Ted Nugent and maybe Clint Eastwood would make a guest appearance by now.

[catnhatnh]

62. Know your Lunatics...

Guy to the left in camo with gray goatee appears to be Jerry DeLemus from my hometown of Rochester NH, purported commander of "Camp Tripwire". Googling this guy will gives a ton of info but basically he is a loon and disliked by his daughter in NH and some of his fellow loons in Bundyville...

[Ikonoklast]

68. This guy is wrong about EVERYTHING.

The best thing is that his Teabagging moron ass has divided the Republicans in NH.

[onethatcares]

64. at 9:20 of the video

black shirt boy calls the federal government the enemy. Isn't that treason and sedition?

One U.S.Marine rifle squad would have these guys pissing their pants.

[951-Riverside]

67. They also talk about stopping and escorting other groups away if "they come anywhere around here"...

If they're including public land, they've got some nerve.

Good find.

[Cha]

69. Oh boy.. looks like ol bundy has gathered the lowest scum.. how's that whole

thing workin' out for the kochs now?

[Aerows]

70. I said it before, and I'll say it again

It's all fun and games until the Apache helicopters are deployed.

[Takket]

72. i'll say it again...........

WHEN is law enforcement going to do something about it?

[greendog]

73. Average max temperature for Mesquite, NV.

May - 92.8
June - 102.1
July - 107.7
Aug - 106.0

[Major Nikon]

81. Yep, the heat will disperse these morans if nothing else

It's all fun and games playing in their pretend army till the mercury hits triple digits.

[Hugin]

80. The history of mormon led massacres in the area repeats itself.

Ever heard of the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

Keep in mind this attack WAS carried out by those Bundy is trying to claim as his ancestors.

"The Mountain Meadows massacre was a series of attacks on the Baker–Fancher emigrant wagon train at Mountain Meadows in southern Utah. The attacks culminated on September 11, 1857, with the mass slaughter of most in the emigrant party by members of the Utah Territorial Militia from the Iron County district, together with some Paiute Native Americans."

Check it out on the wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

People like the Bundys always play themselves as the victims of the Govt when in reality they are the aggressors. The cowardly racist angle of dressing as Native Americans while they slaughtered and pillaged the innocent wagon train is self explanatory.

[B Calm]

82. Cuckoos