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Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:25 PM Mar 2012

How the FUCK can I trust Law Enforcement anymore?!

(I am fully aware I may be offending people and if this post is hidden I understand but I need to voice this)

FIRST LET ME DISCLAIM: I am a white female who has lead a shelter life. So if you believe I am speaking out of turn I am sorry.


The few cops I've ever known have been cocky SOBs who where arrgant people -I've known men and women- who demanded special treatment all the time.


I've listen to report after report of police bulling over the past 15 years. I've seen the oncoming police-like state when dealing with OWS protesters.

The Trayvon Martin Case is the thing that has broken the camel's back sort of speaking.

I cannot in good conscious trust anyone in law enforcement again! I do not believe they work for the good of the people AND I do not believe they care about people BUT THEY LOVE POWER!

I never thought I'd be a person to say ANYTHING LIKE THIS but if I saw a police person unconscious on the street tomorrow I honestly think twice in helping that person! I never would have said that before. Ask me a month ago and I would have said. I won't care if the person was Black,white, yellow, poke-a-dotted. I see a person in trouble I go to help.

Now I would actually think twice if that person NO MATTER WHAT COLOR.

WHAT THE FREAK HAS BECOME OF THIS COUNTRY AND WHAT THE FUCK HAS THIS COUNTRY TURN ME INTO?!

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Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
1. Your cynicism is warranted.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:30 PM
Mar 2012

I experienced a situation where a detective left me, a victim of a felony, alone in a room with no windows and a photographic line-up and the photo file of the perp they had arrested. he fully expected me to look at both files to get the match. I played dumb and refused to play his unethical "game".

Now on L.W.L.O. on msnbc, they are interviewing the mother of a teenager who called 911 the night of Trayvon's murder because he saw part of what happened. They didn't interview the teen until March 5.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. Not sure when, if ever, I trusted law enforcement. Certainly any trust has been completely forfeit
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:31 PM
Mar 2012

...in recent years, given police actions around the country.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
4. As a caucasian male, I have always held reservations about LEO's.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:33 PM
Mar 2012

These days I am highly skeptical of them. We could learn from those in South America and keep those in the uniform at bay.
Do not embrace them nor defer much to them.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
6. Then this probably won't help
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:40 PM
Mar 2012

This was posted yesterday but you may have missed it.

Felony charges have been dropped against a Florida woman after a cellphone tape of her arrest sharply contradicted two police officers' version of events, The Miami Herald reports.

<...>

"The newspaper says prosecutors are now investigating whether the officers filed false documents relating to the encounter.

None of this would be questioned, The Herald says, if the 60-year-old driver, Susan Mait, hadn't dropped her phone on the floor of her SUV when cops yanked her from the vehicle. She was on the phone at the time with a Geico service rep who, per company policy, was recording the conversation.

The audiotape depicts a starkly different scene from what officers Nicole Stasnek and Derek Fernandes declared in their official reports and told the court under oath.

Cops in a jam after cell tape contradicts arrest report

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
7. IT TOOK THE CELLPHONE FOOTAGE TO PROTECT A WOMAN WHO WAS BEING FALSELY CHARGE
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:43 PM
Mar 2012

BY POLICE!!! IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE BULLIES WHO WILL FALSIFY EVERY CHANCE THEY GET

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
8. I guess it came from being counterculture in the 60s/70s....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:44 PM
Mar 2012

but I've never trusted cops. There have been times in my life when they've helped me, but I've also seen enough shit done by them to know not to trust them.

gopiscrap

(23,726 posts)
10. I have never trusted the pigs
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:30 PM
Mar 2012

they are not and never have nor never will be there for you! They're there to serve the greed of corporations and the power hungry!!!

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
11. Trust is an unjustified, ill conceived, and dangerous position in this area
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:13 AM
Mar 2012

If we had any sense at all we'd develop actual officers of the peace and dump the law enforcement garbage. No drug war, no vice squads of any sort, no speed traps, no check points, no shake downs.

The entire focus should be keeping people from encroaching on the next guy and the being apart and above the community aspect is unacceptable. The whole "civillians" shit makes me want to puke. Hell, Officer of the Peace maybe shouldn't even be a career gig, it could be a community service type program like the Peace Corps or non-career military service. Do a two year tour or two and hand it over to the next guys.
The need for experience greatly reduced by a drastic change in mission at least for the beat type cop, we'd need hard crimes investigation of course and career people are desirable there. White collar should also be a focus for professional path.

What people think we have are protectors of the community when what we have are law enforcers who protect the property of the upper crust. Protecting property can be a part of protecting the community from predators but the prime directive must shift. A cop can roll by you flailing and waive for aid as long as they don't see a crime in progress, they are not in it for us at all. An Officer of the Peace would be in deep shit for not communication with a fellow citizen and rendering aid if need be.
An Officer of the Peace would not execute a "Terry Stop", be prohibited from interfering with or questioning with the expectation of response, defference, or honesty the movements of a citizen not interfering with the activity of another. "How are you tonight?" is fine and dandy "what's your business tonight?" not kosher or rather can be reponded to with "fuck your mother, pig" and a fart in their general direction, retaliation dealt with harshly and every moment recorded.

We've now militarized the mess as well and that was a serious error as any if we have any desire to be a free or a secure people.

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