Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:56 PM
TheWraith (24,331 posts)
This is why I keep saying, even if you believe Zimmerman's story, he committed manslaughter.
An excerpt from Florida's self defense laws, via Wikipedia. Emphasis is mine.
776.041 Use of force by aggressor. —The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who: In plain English, having provoked the confrontation with Martin, no matter what happened from that point on Zimmerman's only legal recourse was to attempt to retreat.
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TheWraith | Mar 2012 | OP |
Justice wanted | Mar 2012 | #1 | |
TheWraith | Mar 2012 | #2 | |
Justice wanted | Mar 2012 | #3 | |
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Justice wanted | Mar 2012 | #6 | |
Nye Bevan | Mar 2012 | #5 |
Response to TheWraith (Original post)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:59 PM
Justice wanted (2,657 posts)
1. LOOK AT THAT "MAN" in the ABC video! No signs of injury! No reason for his use of deadly force!
Response to Justice wanted (Reply #1)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:06 PM
TheWraith (24,331 posts)
2. That video may well end up getting him convicted of murder in the second degree.
If he'd had all the injuries he and the police claimed he had, he might have gotten manslaughter. Uninjured and apparently making up a story... that clip could very easily sell a jury on murder two.
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Response to TheWraith (Reply #2)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:34 PM
Justice wanted (2,657 posts)
3. Why the hell not first degree murder. He had the gun in his hand and he stalked Trayvon. Two trait
of a person who is going to fulfill a plan to murder.
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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #3)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:36 PM
TheWraith (24,331 posts)
4. Premeditation would be hard to prove in this case.
It wouldn't be enough to prove that he followed Martin, it would have to be proven that he followed with definite intent to kill. It's possible, but premeditation is usually hard to prove when the killer and victim didn't know each other.
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Response to TheWraith (Reply #4)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:40 PM
Justice wanted (2,657 posts)
6. Zimmerman's actions show premeditation. HE followed Trayvon! HE was told not to by police and
he did. HE carried that gun when he followed Trayvon. To me if I was on a jury that is premeditation.
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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #3)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:38 PM
Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)
5. People who commit first degree murder generally do not call the police
right before committing the murder. Zimmerman is a despicable piece of shit who is 100% responsible for killing the guy, but I don't think it's murder one.
There's probably a case for second degree murder, but I think there will be a plea deal for manslaughter, with a sentence of between 1 and 5 years. |