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On March 13, 2013, my client, an Iraqi single mother and refugee now living in Jordan, filed a class action lawsuit against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz in a federal court in California."
She alleges that these six defendants planned and waged the Iraq War in violation of international law by waging a war of aggression, as defined by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, more than sixty years ago."
*At the Nuremberg Trials, American chief prosecutor and associate justice of the US Supreme Court Robert H. Jackson focused his prosecution on the planning and execution of the various wars committed by the Third Reich. "
The Nuremberg Tribunal agreed with Jackson. In its famous judgment in 1946, the Tribunal wrote,
War is essentially an evil thing . . . to initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-peace-historic-class-action-law-suit-against-george-w-bush/5378507#
Warpy
(111,250 posts)I don't care who gets those scumbags into prison as long as they get there.
Gman
(24,780 posts)He deserves to spend the rest if his life, however much there is left, in jail.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)Rockyj
(538 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)
Clinton should've started with members of his father's administration and we never would've had an Iraq war...I would wager we wouldn't have had 911 either. But Clinton, like Obama, forced us to buy into the scam of not looking backward...but that's what a mirror is for, people. We messed up by allowing this and must now pray we don't get served up a President Jeb Bush. I recall a quote by Bush Sr. Paraphrased it went like this :" You thought the Kennedy boys were a big deal...wait till you see what my boys do." Bush Sr resented the Kennedy boys but luckily for him they disappeared.
The Wizard
(12,542 posts)in the past.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Ironically in this case we can assume they will be committed in the future if it's Hillary vs Jeb. Dynastic crony nepotism again? Let's hope no one is drinking the kool aid so much to defend this on either side.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)And I've alays thought Bush Sr had more to do with those disappearances than he lets on.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)annm4peace
(6,119 posts)Minneapolis, MN - Hundreds of students and community members gathered outside of Northrop Auditorium at the University of Minnesota (U of M), on the evening of April 17, to protest an appearance by Bush White House National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. Rice was speaking as an invited guest of the Universitys Humphrey School of Public Affairs.
The crowd of over 250 protesters, led by Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), heard speakers including professors David Pellow and August Nimtz, AFSCME 3800 President Cherenne Horazuk, Welfare Rights Committee member Deb Howze, Anti-War Committee member Sabri Wazwaz and representatives from other student groups such as Whose Diversity and Students for Justice in Palestine.
Speakers condemned Rice as a war criminal whose misconduct during the Bush administration included direct responsibility for the use of enhanced interrogation techniques. This torture was systematically implemented by the CIA and used at Black Sites around the world as well as prisons like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib.
Protesters gathered in front of Northrop exercised their rights to free speech by defying police orders banning the use of amplified sound.
In the weeks before Rices appearance, SDS worked with several professors on a University Senate resolution, modeled after a similar one passed at Rutgers University, condemning the visit of Rice. Though the resolution failed, over 200 professors signed a petition opposing her visit, her receiving of $150,000 to speak, and condemning her role in the Bush administration.
indepat
(20,899 posts)being crashed into tall buildings.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I watched in 2000 on CNN a top of the hour report where The US State Dept had the military install anti-aircraft artillery around the island of Genoa during the G8 Summit because they were worried about passenger jets BEING USED AS MISSILES. This isn't conspiracy or getting facts wrong. I watched it myself and later found the printed version on the CNN website. Who knows if it's still around or not. She lied and even though this vermin refused to testify under oath she still lied to Congress. They are all protecting each other. Luckily the NSA can out or embarrass anyone in power or influence who dares talk about it and they have been since before 911. This is my guess why those with good jobs are afraid to even discuss any 911 related topics that conflict with the official lie.
annm4peace
(6,119 posts)there is so much evidence, yet there is no accountablity... but I feel that it will happen. Not by our government, but another.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Now that Obama is in power those with small minds refuse to challenge official lies. Couple that with all the republicans or paid contractor sick puppet profiles here, the message gets muddled. So much is built on the official lie that it has become like the drug war. The large majority of people knows it to be a scam and don't support it but to many law enforcement, military contractors, intelligence agencies and bankers/lawyers are making too much money off the lie to stop it.
indepat
(20,899 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)They won't do anything as they sold out a while ago. We need to reach our truthfully liberal reps in the Senate like Wyden or Udall or in the House like Grayson or Maxine Waters.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)or profit, as Condi is doing, without being reminded that not everyone has 'moved forward' from their crimes against humanity.
G_j
(40,367 posts)----
After months of briefing, the Northern District of California will issue its order any day as to whether it will recognize the crime of aggression, and whether my client may pursue a civil case against the Bush-era defendants based on that crime. In August of last year, the Obama Department of Justice requested that the district court immunize Bush and his high officials from civil charges on the basis that they were acting within the scope of their authority. This issue also remains pending before the court, but it should be noted that both Nuremberg, as well as the more recent Pinochet decision, reject the idea of immunity for leaders when they step outside the appropriate scope of their authority.
We need your support and attention to this case. We cannot let the crime of aggression disappear into history; indeed, even the International Criminal Court has now provided its own definition for aggression, with jurisdiction for this crime being enabled after 2017. We must affirm Jacksons belief that, law is not only to govern the conduct of little men, but that even rulers are, as Lord Chief Justice Coke put it to King James, under God and the law.
For most of the post-war period, this notion that leaders must be held accountable for their decisions to go to war has gathered dust. This must change, or else the legacy of Nuremberg, and its foundation for the post-war international legal regime, will be tossed aside in favor of the state of anarchic international relations that led to the Second World War itself. It is time to fulfill Jacksons dream of a global order governed by law, not war. And it is time for accountability over the Iraq War and for the millions of people who lost their lives or who were affected by it.
Inder Comar is counsel of record for Sundus Shaker Saleh in her case against members of the Bush Administration. The case is Saleh v. Bush, Case No. 3:13-cv-1124 JST (N.D. Cal. March 13, 2013). The firm is providing case updates at witnessiraq.com and is representing Saleh pro bono.
annm4peace
(6,119 posts)here is independent media coverage of the protest of Condi Rice speaking at U of MN. she is a war criminal
http://theuptake.org/2014/04/16/opinion-u-of-minnesota-pays-condi-rice-150k-ignores-war-crimes/
Some 250 of all ages turned out to protest Condi Rice's $150,000 appearance at the University of Minnesota. Coleen Rowley's superb analysis now has my video accompanying it.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I liked this quote in the vid:
"I think it's fine that she speaks freely, but she should do it behind bars, where she belongs, as a certified war criminal"
snot
(10,520 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)One cannot in good faith choose to look forward.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)finding out that there really was no weapons of mass destruction and Iraq really wasn't able to project any semblance of power after more than a decade of sanctions.
Instead, he just sits in a sprawling mansion chumming with the other past and current president smug and smiling over what he did to Iraq.
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Nah, I don't think I'd feel too different at all about the war if bush was actually apologetic.
They also need to take down all of the other politicians who ever voted for and supported that war and were never in the least sense apologetic about their enabling of bush and the destruction brought on the Iraqi people.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Inder Comar is Legal Director at Comar Law. Inder completed his legal training at New York University School of Law.
Prior to opening his own practice, Inder worked at Latham & Watkins LLP, one of the largest law firms in the world. At Latham & Watkins, Inder handled complex litigations on behalf of the worlds most well known businesses and institutions, in areas as diverse as antitrust, employment, and intellectual property.
He also spent a year working at The Alliance for Childrens Rights, a non-profit in Los Angeles dedicated to supporting foster children.
Inder completed his undergraduate work at Stanford University, earning a degree in Psychology and a degree International Relations, as well as a Master of Arts degree in Sociology.
http://www.comarlaw.com/about-comar-law/d-inder-comar-esq/
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Rare to have good news these days. Let's just hope we see Justice be done sooner, rather than later.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)We didn't do it then and there's still a mess in there.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There is no way in hell that any court in the US would allow the precedent of a former president, or his administration, being sued over matters of public policy carried out during the administration, especially policies where military action are involved.
If some judge somewhere were to rule in favor of the plaintiff in this case, that ruling wold be overturned so quickly that the judge would never know what hit them.
This is not a defense of the actions of the Bush administration WRT Iraq. It is merely an observation of the reality surrounding this specific suit.
Damansarajaya
(625 posts)our judicial system, which is part of the same gov't designed to protect wealth at all costs, ruling against the ruling class.
But it's worth a shot and I'm glad someone is doing it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)this example and I hope it never stops until SOMEONE somewhere, brings this war criminals to justice.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Any US citizen, who is not hoping and dreaming of seeing those war criminals frog marched into prison, is not really much of a citizen.