It could have been a perfect storm for a failed presidency.

[sheshe2]

I vehemently defend President Obama because he walked into the worst deal any president ever has. He is subjected to a level of disrespect, treachery and betrayal from within that no other president has ever experienced. He faces impossible and unprecedented challenges everyday but constantly finds ways to surmount the insurmountable, dodge the traps and achieve his goals, most of which are making peoples lives better.

Coming in the door he was burdened with the second largest financial collapse in the nation's history, coupled with the single most obstructive Congress in history. It could have been a perfect storm for a failed presidency. The fact that it wasn't gives testament to his political genius.

Fixing the second largest economic calamity in history would be a very hard situation to fix even with the full brunt of Congress falling in line to help - But virtually impossible if the Republicans made it their sole objective not to rebuild the economy that [they] collapsed but to do everything in their power to ensure it remained broken. They vowed to, "undermine all Obama's economic initiatives." And publicly stated during Obama's first term, in the midst of massive housing foreclosures and near-record unemployment, that their number one goal, with everything else going on and with all the people suffering, was to "make Obama a one term president." They followed through with their pact to undermine his economic initiatives and goal of stopping a second Obama presidency by submitting more filibusters [by far] than any Congress in American history. Obviously and astonishingly, their plan didn't work. The economy is no longer in ruins and Obama is well into his second term.

snip//

They cannot beat him so they publicly disrespect him. Unlike with every president that preceded Obama, the discord the opposing party has against the president doesn't stop at our borders. Republicans have such a demented and psychotic hate for Obama that they publicly support foreign leaders, even enemy leaders, that this country is at odds with, over their own president, which is unprecedented.

snip//

To the detractors I say: name someone who could do as good a job or better. Identify their accomplishments and the various antagonists who stood in their way, and the extents the antagonists went to to stop them, and how they circumvented the antagonist's efforts and became successful. Show where it remotely compares to Obama and his achievements. Do that, or else please, kindly, don't say anything at all.

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[Glorfindel]

1. Brilliant. Thank you for posting it, sheshe2.

President Obama will go down in history as one of the greats, and his detractors will go the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings, and the Anti-Masonic parties.

[sheshe2]

15. You're Welcome~

[hue]

54. I totally agree!!

[calimary]

58. So do I! Vehemently.

To all detractors, I'd say - "oh yeah? Well let's see what YOU got?" They usually have nothing but hot air and gas giants in their bag o' tricks.

[sheshe2]

96. ...

[Number23]

73. "and his detractors will go the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings, and the Anti-Masonic parties."

Agree with you 100% but it has been nothing short of hilarious watching the ones around here that have done nothing but shit on him and his policies since Day 1 suddenly leaping up with congratulatory threads for the very policies they've shit on relentlessly for the last six years.

Glorfindel. I'm a huge Tolkien fan. Should have known someone wise enough to choose that name would be wise in other ways too.

[JNelson6563]

2. It really is astounding how open the rethugs

have been about their obstruction. It's treasonous how these bastards have screwed us all in the effort to undermine President Obama.

In light of all this he has actually affected some positive changes & he has always maintained his dignity by rising above all the nastiness aimed @ him 24/7.

Julie

[sheshe2]

11. Thanks Julie.

They would rather bring America to her knees than have Obama succeed. They are traitors, one and all.

[WhiteTara]

43. And they did this knowing he would not be able to protest

When they subpoenaed President Clinton, I knew they were destroying the office of the presidency for future use. Now they can just openly disrespect the office and the office holder.

[cprise]

105. He should stop appointing them for a start.

Now *that* is a recipe for being betrayed from within.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. FDR walked into a bit of a mess

Unemployment dropped by half in FDR's first term, and GDP rose 8% per year.

Not bad.

Turns out that Liberal policies - and only Liberal policies - fix these kind of problems.

[Doctor_J]

8. Shh!

stop throwing wrenches into the gears of the bandwagon.

embracing liberal policies could have made this president's terms historic too. Instead they've been mediocre. Such a wasted opportunity.

[lillypaddle]

10. And what about your bandwagon?

The one that you throw shit off to land in any positive thread about the President.

[Scootaloo]

28. Dunno about Doctor_J's, but my bandwagon is solid liberal policy

I'd like to see a lot more of it.

[texshelters]

37. Yea, stop expressing how you feel!

Yea dude: Stop expressing how you honestly feel and kiss the ass ring.

I am so tired of Democrats acting like Republicans and instead of listening to concerns, attacking the messenger. It's no wonder the two parties are in such disfavor these days.

And I'm a Dem. leaning progressive.

PTxS

[lillypaddle]

48. bandwagon ... cheerleading...ass ring

I'm not acting like a republican, YOU and some of your buddies are. Post something half-way positive about the POTUS on a RW board, and you'll see replies just like yours.

[Number23]

75. TRUTH.

And nothing but.

[sheshe2]

76. Thank you lillypaddle, Touche!

Thanks~

[raindaddy]

119. The Republicans are bad guys...

And they do disrespect President Obama daily and there's nothing wrong with Democrats pointing that out. But we're at the bottom of this dog pile and the question is who's watching our backs?

Obama ran as a populist who wanted a transparent government and and a change of unfair policies that have created the largest disparity between the 1% and the middle class in modern history. He simply didn't keep his promise and if you think it's all because of the mean old Republicans you're fooling yourselves.

The question is if instead of being willing to look at our leaders without having to idolize them, making excuses for them, putting on the rose colored glasses every time we're lied to we will continue to be exploited by a system that's is so corrupt former President Carter stated,“America does not at the moment have a functioning democracy”.

[daybranch]

70. As a person who worked very hard for Obama

I applaud when I agree with what he does and I feel I certainly have a right to criticize when I do not like what he does. Early on , he said if you want me to do something, make me. Never asking for something different or something more is certainly not what make me means. Without critics, there will be few or no bandwagons for the President. The liberal (progressive?) issues were there long before President Obama and while we know he cannot achieve all we desire, it is our right and our duty as citizens to complain.
It is ironic but not unexpected that those of us who fought hardest for the more liberal of candidates in 2004 rather than just go with the anointed Hillary Clinton are accused of sabotaging Obama and the party now. We were then too. I remember how hard so many of those Democrats non-risk takers fought for Hillary as the wise and safe choice in 2004.
Well we won in 2004 for Obama against Hillary. This time Hillary has started even earlier to amass a fortune to conduct her Koch like campaign. Frankly many of Hillary supporters are little different than republicans. They seek to buy elections and overwhelm everything with money and PR. It is time to ask ourselves, are we going again to support progressive populism with the candidate that best embodies the democratic values of the party of FDR or are we going to rollover to another money machine. Are we going to buy into the hype that Hillary must win. Are we going to believe that she is the only woman who can do the job? Or are we to believe that no man could do it better? That sounds very chauvinistic to me. Are we going to understand that Warren or Sanders is much more capable of serving the people?
Yep, we have our bandwagons and we will continue to push them, whether or not Obama or Hillary, or whomever has not climbed aboard. It is a duty many of us take seriously.
We are not and have never been Obamabots and we will not and will never be HillaryBots either.

[lillypaddle]

72. well said. nt

[jwirr]

9. My dad used to remind us that it took FDR more than two terms to complete what he and Congress

accomplished. Real change takes time. I am amazed President Obama has accomplished this much given his situation.

[MannyGoldstein]

23. Complete, yes. But at least he began.

FDR did halve unemployment and the GDP grew by 8% per year during his first term, a pretty astonishing record. That didn't complete the fix, but it made one hell of a dent.

In his second term, FDR unfortunately embraced austerity, and things began to get worse again. So FDR, being a man who understood the value of evidence, abandoned "centrist" economics and became a two-fisted Liberal for the rest of his life. America enjoyed four decades of unparalleled economic growth for the 99%.

[sheshe2]

104. FDR makes a dent and you are happy.

Because it was one hell of a dent! Your newest OP on FDR! Yea!

This President makes a dent and you malign him, pretty telling Manny.

Oh and the challenge of the OP...

To the detractors I say: name someone who could do as good a job or better. Identify their accomplishments and the various antagonists who stood in their way, and the extents the antagonists went to to stop them, and how they circumvented the antagonist's efforts and became successful. Show where it remotely compares to Obama and his achievements. Do that, or else please, kindly, don't say anything at all.

You swung and missed~

[BeyondGeography]

25. And here's what FDR was working with

73rd Congress:

Senate: 59 Ds, 36 Rs
House: 311 Ds, 117 Rs

74th Congress:

Senate: 70 Ds, 23 Rs.
House: 322 Ds, 103 Rs.

75th Congress:

Senate: 75 Ds, 16 Rs.
House: 334 Ds, 88 Rs.

76th Congress:

Senate: 70 Ds, 22 Rs
House: 256 Ds, 173 Rs.

http://chronicle.com/blognetwork/edgeofthewest/2013/04/22/a-quick-note-on-one-reason-why-fdr-was-effective-in-ways-obama-is-not/

The only horse trading he had to do was with Southern whites who were Democrats back then.

[MannyGoldstein]

30. FDR vetoed more than 600 bills

About one per week. That's not exactly a sign of dealing with an obsequious Congress.

(Obama has vetoed 2. About one per term.)

http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/vetoCounts.htm

Obama had majorities in both houses of Congress for two years, including a supermajority in the Senate.

[BeyondGeography]

32. Those included tough stands on homing pigeons and credits for beer wholesalers...

FDR was a heroic legislator, but you can't compare his built-in advantages with what Obama has dealt with. Actually, you can; you've been doing it for years.

That fumble in 36-37 that you mention, btw, brought his advantage in the Senate down to 48 seats and in the House to 83 seats.

[DCBob]

93. +1

Well said.. but Manny and his minions dont care. They have gone too far off the deep end to ever come back to reality.

[treestar]

62. Thank you

Notice the improvement of the 74th over the 73rd. So he did not get "punished" for not getting enough done in the first two years by having the Democrats sit home because he hadn't done enough. He got an even more Democrats Congress. Look at the Senate of the 75th! We can only imagine what Obama could have done with a Senate like that.

[JDPriestly]

16. So true. Manny. FDR put the oligarchy on its head by indicting some of "their kind."

FDR started Social Security and was not stopped by questions about whether it was adequately funded. FDR boosted home ownership in spite of the banks' foreclosures. FDR threatened to enlarge the Supreme Court when it decided against him on serious matters. The Court came around.

FDR was a fighter.

Obama is a wonderful man, but at a time when we needed a fighter for the 99% in the White House, he hasn't entered the foray.

It's opportunity lost for the American people. And I worked hard to get him elected and re-elected.
I wish I had seen Holder as outraged at the banking and investment communities as he was at Gohmert.

[karynnj]

44. True, but he had a far more responsive Congress

and it was a far less partisan time.

This is not to diminish FDR who I think saved the country. I think it is easy to make the case that FDR was both the most effectively liberal President and the best President we ever had.

[treestar]

59. this ^^^^^^

And a lot more political capital. The depression affected everyone. There was plenty of will to do something about it.

[treestar]

60. This thread is about President Obama

Interesting that your first choice in response is to tout someone else as better.

[pocoloco]

66. Duh..."Show where it remotely compares to Obama and his achievements."

Doing exactly what he was challenged to do!!

[sheshe2]

78. Actually the challenge was...

To the detractors I say: name someone who could do as good a job or better. Identify their accomplishments and the various antagonists who stood in their way, and the extents the antagonists went to to stop them, and how they circumvented the antagonist's efforts and became successful. Show where it remotely compares to Obama and his achievements. Do that, or else please, kindly, don't say anything at all.

[1StrongBlackMan]

115. So even the most charitable teacher would have ...

graded his response a D-, at best ... he identified a person and alluded to accomplishments; but failed to respond to any of the other elements of the question.

[sheshe2]

116. In a nutshell, you are indeed correct, 1SBM.

I sure he will be back to correct his little oversite...or not.

[OKNancy]

63. Many ridiculous comparisons

Most importantly Roosevelt had a huge majority of Democrats in Congress.

In 1933, the Democrats controlled 64 percent of the Senate seats and 73 percent of the House seats.
Numbers increased over the next couple of midterms by 1937-38, the Democrats controlled about 80 percent of the seats in both chambers.

Imagine what Obama could have done with those numbers.

--------

Oh, and Roosevelt was a rich white man

[JI7]

71. so you think rich white men are treated better than black guys

especially black guys with muslim names ?

you think the republicans in congress now would respect a rich white man over someone like obama ?

[1StrongBlackMan]

112. He also walked into office ...

with a congressional opposition that was largely compliant, as opposed to the current congress.

[ProSense]

123. Unemployment climb

"Unemployment dropped by half in FDR's first term, and GDP rose 8% per year. "

....during the first half of FDR's first year, dropped in the second half, and then in 1934, it steadily climbed back up to nearly 22 percent. It went from 25 percent to 12 percent in his first term, and then it shot back up to 20 percent in the following year. Next came the war.

[hfojvt]

4. the most obstructive Congress in history?

That did not really happen until 2010.

Obama failed to impress the voters and they/we gave him/us a Republican House in 2010. Unlike Bush, who came in with a Republican House, kept his Republican House in 2002 and was re-elected with his Republican House in 2004 while the Senate Majority leader from the other party was defeated.

Obama was re-elected with a Republican House in 2012.

and this

"Republicans have such a demented and psychotic hate for Obama that they publicly support foreign leaders, even enemy leaders, that this country is at odds with, over their own president, which is unprecedented."

you might not remember this

http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2004311506_mcdermott28m.html

[BeyondGeography]

6. You're comparing McDermott's anti-war trip to Iraq with the love shown Putin by Republicans?

Starting with their nominee in 2012 no less.

How many ways is that utterly lame?

[karynnj]

45. You ignore that no Republican Senator would have voted for any healthcare bill -

including many who CO SPONSORED previous bills that had much in common with the ACA. In addition, only Specter, Collins and Snowe voted for the stimulus bill -- and that was after about half the dollars were allocated to tax cuts - which were less effective at stimulating the economy than payments to the states to save education, fire and police jobs.

In BOTH of these two major cases, Obama and the Democrats did reach out and opted for things that should have gotten the Republicans to join him for the good of the country.

[handmade34]

5. thank you

I have nothing but admiration and respect for President Obama and Michelle Obama

the strength and endurance he puts forth is amazing

[sheshe2]

7. You are welcome handmade.

I agree with you wholeheartedly!

[Nancy Waterman]

12. Excellent summary of what is happening

Thank you

[albino65]

13. Thank you for the post and the link

I had never heard of The Knowledge Movement. I read a few of the posts and "liked" their page. I will follow them. There seems to be more positive musings there than on DU.

[sheshe2]

21. I just found them this morning, albino.

I want to check them out further when I get home from work.

[watoos]

14. Let's not forget the corporate-controlled M$M

that have aided and abetted the obstruction and disrespect. This obstruction could not have been accomplished without a complicit media.

[sheshe2]

19. Yes indeed...

credit where credit is due. They are bought and paid for by the right!

Thanks watoos.

[dhill926]

17. K & R.........

great post. Will be interesting to read the history 20 years down the road...

[Whisp]

18. K&R!

[erronis]

20. It's sometimes hard to remember what President Obama has had to surmount

We can all be critical of others (and sometimes ourselves) without thinking about the trails that they had to take to get to a particular point. This article is a good refresher.

History will have a clearer view of his life and presidency as well as the incredible negative forces that worked against him.

[Rozlee]

22. The harm this congress and Republicans in state legislatures across the country have visited

on our nation will take years, if not decades, to recover from. They've passed anti-reproductive laws, anti-labor laws and anti-voting laws that keep minorities and the poor from the polls and gerrymandered entire states to ensure that they don't lose their grip on their congressional numbers. They've passed pro-business and banking bills that ensure students remain in debt their entire lives and that the 1% take our wealth and keep us poor. They've infested our school boards with their anti-science thought police. Obama has accomplished much in his presidency, but the tea party and extremist conservatives in national and state power across the country have ensured that their radical agenda chips away at the lives and dreams of ordinary Americans. Republicans have controlled the vertical and they've controlled the horizontal with their comandeering of the airwaves by canceling the Fairness Doctrine and creating a generation of foxbots that buy the teahaddist Kool-Aid. Obama has overcome overwhelming odds to accomplish what he has against these monsters. But, he's been a beleaguered David against an army of Goliaths. The biggest problem he's had going against him has been an apathetic electorate that cares more for watching Dancing With The Stars than realizing their democracy is being hijacked.

[sheshe2]

26. Well said, Rozlee!

[Rex]

42. +1 nt.

NT.

[The_Commonist]

24. I think Lincoln walked into a worse shit-show...

...and it didn't end well for him.

But yes, your point is well taken.
And I have vehemently defended Mr. Obama, even at times when I felt he didn't deserve it.

[Stellar]

27. How beautiful was that!

Can you imagine what his presidency would have been like without all the roadblocks? Thank You President Obama!

[Drunken Irishman]

29. Absolutely. 2008's election had 1976 written all over it...

Jimmy Carter wasn't incompetent, he was just elected at a very difficult time in American history. Had Ford won instead and his presidency is probably regarded as the worst of the post-FDR presidents.

Many people openly wondered if Obama would prove a one termer solely because, like Carter, he was handed a shit sandwich. The fact he was able to do so much is a minor miracle. Sadly, it seems in today's world, you're often remembered for what you didn't accomplish and not for what you did accomplish.

[babylonsister]

31. Recommend highly! I am

still a huge fan of this man, and am so grateful he is my President.

[sheshe2]

79. Hey!

[Iliyah]

33. K & R

Thanks sheshe2!

Insurmountable opposition never seen before w/o a physical war to date in US history and Pres O still can accomplish some things.

[Aviation Pro]

34. I am absolutely convinced...

...that had the President not taken the steps he had during the Great Recession that the world would have been plunged into a Hyper-Great Depression that would have been the catalyst for WW III. This, of course, would have been fought with nuclear weapons and would have resulted in the self-extinction of mankind.

Thus, the Nobel Peace Prize.

[freshwest]

94. Agreed!

[sheshe2]

97. As do I, freshwest!

[sheshe2]

101. i know you can't see FB, freshwest....

So here is more of the article.

The Commie hating Republicans are now enamored with Vladamir Putin of Russia. Ironically, Republicans love to project a false Communist caricature onto Obama for the benefit of their blind and ignorant minions, as a reason to hate him. However, the Russian president that they are swooning over is a [real] Communist - the head Communist. But because this traditional enemy of America, Democracy and Capitalism is at odds with Obama, their own president, these Republicans now adore Russia, Communism and their leader. They now support Russia's anti-gay policies, but before Obama they classified such bigoted treatment of Russian citizens as human rights violations.


Snip/

Obama endures racism and double standards from both sides of the aisle. The far Left watched him sign more Progressive legislation into law, supporting the middle class and poor, than any president since FDR, but because he accomplished 90% of what they wanted instead of 100%, many won't support him - But curiously, a majority of them support Clinton, who signed far less Progressive legislation into law than Obama while signing much more legislation deemed Conservative.

https://www.facebook.com/473608799319088/photos/a.474711195875515.113445.473608799319088/779523558727609/?type=1&theater

[freshwest]

107. I see it the opposite. The Russians aren't Communist. They are of a variety of Libertarianism that

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is Anarcho-Capitalism, proto plutocracy. It's why the Republicans support him. They see him as a strong man dictator who will force the people to bow down to them. They see that as making a society that will leave them in power and mobilize the people to do what they want. Because that is what Putin did, he is a front man for oligarchy.

[sheshe2]

110. A government for the rich, bought and paid for.

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thanks, fresh...

[freshwest]

121. We just need to remember who approves of Putin's style:

G.A.S., Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Bryan Fischer, Sarah Palin, Bill O'Reilly, Shawn Hannity, Tea Partiers, the Koches and Libertarians.

It's not all about Obama, it's about the government style that keeps them on top of the rest of humanity.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a7980koch

[sheshe2]

133. Yes we do, freshwest...

As for the links, thank you. As much as it pains me to see their ugly to the soul faces, it to is a reminder to all of us how evil and and life threatening they really are.

[SunSeeker]

35. The day Obama was sworn in, the GOP made a pact to block every move he made.

It was stunning in its treachery.

[texshelters]

38. Who could have done better?

Anyone that wouldn't have hired Summers and Geithner at the start of his first term, two of the economic geniuses that created the 2008 recession, would have been a better choice, really.

Why didn't Obama select an actual economist that had ideas about fixing the economy? Stiglitz would have been my choice. And remember, he had a Democratic majority in both houses when he entered office.

And one can rightfully say, well, they (Republicans) would not have accepted a real progressive in the Treasury. But why not try, or choose a non-Wall Street person.

Again another post attacking those that criticize a mediocre president. Way to act like Republicans, folks.

Your left leaning progressive,

Tex Shelters

[Coolest Ranger]

41. My god will anything please you anti Obama

haters? The ones on the left are just as bad as the ones on the right. All I see are folks like you who can never let anyone say anything positive about the President. I also bet you were one of the ones who stayed home in 2010. I'm not cool and accepted on DU unless I am attacking the President, this is why I don't hang out on DU any more. Instead of all of us united together promising to get a stronger congress for this man you want to spend your time attacking him. No wonder I'm getting turned off by politics these days. I keep having to see posts like this.

Walking away disgusted as usual.

[mcar]

50. +1000

Well said.

[sheshe2]

80. +1000!

CR~

[FSogol]

130. Their goal is to get you to be disgusted and walk away.

Ignore, the trolls, whiny malcontents, and idiots, and GOTV.

[freshwest]

134. You've been missed, Coolest Ranger. Been feeling the same here, but have to keep on doing things on

the local level. And those you speak of do more harm to progressive and liberal causes than the right. They are extremely arrogant and come out like attack dogs to stop anything but their perfect view of how things should be done, or else!

Even though their methods have been proven to not work, they won't hear of anything else and won't let anyone else talk. And they don't care if people are literally dying behind their vitriol and obstinance. The LefTeas is what some call them, and their methods are exactly the same as baggers in public forums in real life and online.

They shout down, name call and insult until there is no dialogue left but theirs. They make it so that people won't say anything. A real turn off so for those who MUST get something done, it gets down to going to whatever person of any political persuasion (not Libertarians, as they want to destroy everythingg) to get anything done.

It's down to the wire with government being defunded and people of good will and energy leaving the public sphere. The groups I'm in see much more trouble is coming as the Koch trained mentality makes life so much harder than it has to be all because of greed and intolerance.

Our president has suffered more bull than any other in history. It's a disgrace and it's destroying America's future, only a few will make it out of this. Hope things are well with you, best wishes, CR.

[hue]

56. This is such unsubstantiated BS!

[treestar]

61. They can't make the laws

Really this concern with who gets appointed and the hatred of summers is silly. He could not have an effect on the stimulus.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

39. rec number 60 :)

knowledge is better than jaded cynical second-by-second-sound-bite-microanalysis pretending to elevated intellect.

That said, YES, we must participate....critical thinking, protest, unity for progressive values (not unity for negative OR positive groupthink, and NOT beating down fellow liberals for having varied perspectives) and INFORMED VOTING.


[font size=1]oh, but--- if you think "discussion" means "snarking hostility", I WILL call you on it. [/font]

[sheshe2]

102. :)

Thanks Blanche!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

120. thanks for bringing it, she

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Huzzah!

[napkinz]

46. WOW!!! thanks for posting this sheshe! K&R!!!!!!!!

[sheshe2]

81. Wow indeed napkinz!

It was my pleasure~

[handmade34]

47. great facebook page

[Jamaal510]

49. K&R

[deathrind]

51. Could not agree more.

The failed economic and foreign policies he inherited upon taking office coupled with the obstructive congress he has had to work with, it is simply amazing what he has managed to get accomplished.

[reformist2]

52. Meh. It is possible to put him in the middle, you know. He hasn't been that great, imo.

[sheshe2]

83. Then I sure do feel sorry for you, reformist.

[obxnacy]

53. defending obama

i'd like to know anyone who could have done better - does any believe mccain would have rescued the economy or done a damned thing about health care? gotten bin laden? saved the auto industry. name one damnit!!!!! romney is a plastic joke. hillary might have done it, but she couldn't have been elected at that time and the republicans would have eaten her alive.
the reprehensible republicans are so bigoted, racist and hypocritical they can't stand themselves and would rather see the country destroyed than go along with anything the "black/white" man in office tries to do. they hate women, blacks, hispanics, etc. everyone but the super rich and powerful industrialist who donate fortunes to their reelections.

[hue]

55. Against all odds President Obama has done so much GOOD!! I have awesome respect for Him & His Family

[indepat]

57. And that level of disrespect, treachery, betrayal, and sabotage is nothing more than treasonous

conduct imv for it subverts the proper functioning of government to the detriment and cost of the people.

[Cha]

64. It is a most demented opposition to President Obama.. and a vile level of disrepect from

both sides of the spectrum. We've seen evidence of that on this very site. What is it about the President that brings out the ignorant ugly hate? Is it the green eyed monster?




Mahalo, she~

[grasswire]

85. you really want to know?

You really want to know what it is that elicits the comments that YOU label "hate"?

On DU, for example, people who legitimately criticize Obama's policies and decisions are met with bizarre attacks by squads of supporters. Obama's supporters here do him no favors.

[Cha]

87. The Vile Ugly Names thrown out at President Obama were so Despicable they

were picked up by rw Hate Sites as an example of the "President Losing DU".. the ugly thread that generated those rw sites has been subsequently Self Deleted by the OP.

[sheshe2]

99. Well

"Obama's supporters here do him no favors.'

And his detractors do? Seriously?

That statement that Cha just made, it was linked to a certain post that called this Democratic President a POS! I know this because I found the links! On R...effing wing web sites!

Yea DU, we have headlines on RW websights for smearing this President. Congratulations.

[greiner3]

65. I agree President Obama has done wonders about many matters that W failed the American public.

But there are several 'problems' with President Obama, NSA to name the most recent, that I do not agree with at all.

I think President Obama will be remembered as in the top 5 or 10 presidents in the coming generations as every person has some 'flaws'.

[ellennelle]

67. thanks for this!

could not agree more!

and for those of you who want to blame obama for the NSA, this has been in place since WWII!!

frankly, he'll likely be counted as up there with lincoln and johnson and FDR, if not besting them, at the very least in light of the many complexities he was handed.

those of you naysayers out there, who could do better, and just how, exactly?

[NastyRiffraff]

68. Yes!

And thanks for posting. It's a funny thing to say about a so-called "liberal" message board, but praise for Obama is considered unusual, or even anti-liberal. Some cannot allow anything, anything at all, good to be said about our president. Whether it's just getting attention like a two year old, or just plain pervisity, I have no idea, nor do I care. But I frankly am sick of it.

Is Obama perfect? Of course not, just like every other human who ever lived. Do I agree with everything he says or does? No. But considering what he's had to overcome, including, let's just say it, racism, he's doing a great job overall.

K&R

[CrispyQ]

69. I think Obama is a good man, but we needed a fighter, not an orator.

But the race thing, I have to say, I thought we as a country were further along than that. The hate, the venom this man & his family have been subjected to has been stunning. There's an ugly, ugly underside in this country & you know they were just waiting to sling the angry black man stereotype at him & have never been able to. But maybe we needed an angry black man. I am disappointed that he didn't come out of the corner ready to pound them to hell, but then, I'm a white woman who has no idea what it's like to be black, much less the first black president in a country where the media was happy to amplify the bigots voices for profit, may your quarterly earning shrink to nothing, you rotten evil fucks.

[Number23]

74. HUGE K&R!!eleven

[sheshe2]

84. Why thank you Number23!

My mouse hovered between posting this in the BOG or GD...

I said to heck with it, I went with GD!

[Number23]

122. The amount of animosity and unhinged stupidity tossed at the BOG prove that this was needed

exactly where you posted it.

[politicman]

77. wake up liberals, you have sold our many of your ideal to fully support a single man.

Obama has done many good things, but he has also done some bad things that he never needed to do.

But I would blame not Obama but all you Obama butt-kissers like on this thread.

When Obama decided that he would escalate the drone attacks, many of us liberals that were decrying it when Bush was in office, all of a sudden you fell quiet or started supporting it.

Same with the CIA., etc.


If many liberals had of stuck to liberal ideals and stood against these unlawful and unmoral things, then Obama would not have had the wiggle room to carry them out, thus he would have listened and liberal ideals would have been upheld.

So next time liberals try to accuse the ultra left of possibly costing us the next democratic administration because they wont vote for a centrist liberal, well look in the mirror and ask yourself why you all of a sudden are quiet or even supportive of the above things, I bet its just because its Obama doing them.

Now you know what a definition of Obama butt-kisser is.

[grasswire]

82. apparently the writer did not live through the Clinton presidency. nt

[sheshe2]

103. I am not sure that you have been awake during the Obama presidency. nt

[Thespian2]

86. Difficult

to explain away how Obama was bought and paid for before his political career got started in Chicago. Do your homework. Discover who owns Obama. Then explain away the absolutely horrible appointments O has made, continuing W's presidency. He just made another rotten appointment. Then explain away the drone attacks. Then explain away why ACA is a scheme to make insurance companies even richer. Medicare for all should be in place at this time. Try for once to follow the money. Fortunately, for O the Repugs had no one to run against him. Is he a great president? NO. If TPP is passed, if he okays the Keystone pipeline, then he will have accomplished what his corporate masters want. Yes, I voted for him twice...only because there was no alternative. Hillary will always be a loser. If the Dems nominate her, then they will be handing the election to a Republican idiot.

Happy to live in Canada.

[sheshe2]

88. Oh my what a post!

I too am happy you live in Canada, with apologies to several well known Canadians that post here regularly. For them I am truly greatly sorry that you do.

[OldRedneck]

98. You live in Canada?

Good.

Fucking stay there.

[ancianita]

89. I'm in his Amen Corner. Thanks!

[Marie Marie]

90. Thank you for another post of reason and reality sheshe.

He may not please all the people all the time but with every new crisis, I still sleep better knowing he is at the helm.

[sheshe2]

91. +1

I completely agree Marie Marie!

[IronLionZion]

92. President Hillary will get hers too

If and when we have a gay or Jewish president, same thing. Yes, of course we must support our Democratic president. Minorities and women go through unimaginable adversity and sabotage from people trying to undermine us and wish to see us stumble. There will always be that undercurrent of resentment that people like us don't deserve to be in positions of power for whatever reason.

They will deliberately sabotage our economy and block health reform efforts just to cast blame on the president. They will try to sow seeds of dissent and distrust within our ranks so that we also blame our Dem leaders as well. We can still disagree on policy while defending and supporting our leaders so that they know someone has their back. Positive reinforcement works. There are several good things that our president and leaders have accomplished in the face of unprecedented opposition.

[gulliver]

95. Don't it always seem to go...

...etc., etc.

Man's a giant and ranks with Kennedy and Roosevelt in my estimation. I will miss him a lot when his second term is over. The things he does just work. That's all I care about.

[Vattel]

100. He's okay for a president.

[TeamPooka]

106. K&R!

[donheld]

108. Yes, without a shadow of a doubt.

[Hekate]

109. KnR

[cyberspirit]

111. Absolutely!

Thank you for this!

[mississippi62]

113. Obama presidency has won me over

[ProSense]

114. Wonderful post. Thanks. Here:

&quot Those) on the left argue that it did not go far enough"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024815727

[Trust Buster]

117. Love your post sheshe2. The main difference between the environment Roosevelt...

.....confronted vs. Obama is very clear to me. Roosevelt had a better informed electorate. Like public school bashing, MSM bashing is ridiculous. Americans have greater access to information then could ever have been dreamed of in Roosevelt's day. How else can you explain the fact that, despite the behavior of these obstructionist animals over the past 5 years, we on the Left have to hold our collective breaths hoping that the Democrats will maintain a majority in the Senate this fall ?

It has been said that a Democracy is only as good as the vigilance of it's citizens. Yet, when the average American is asked if they prefer the ACA or Obamacare, the majority actually choose one of the two despite the ACA's broad media coverage over the past 4 years. Newspapers are not going out of business because "Americans are getting their content online". Newspapers are going out of business because the average American refuses to make an effort and couldn't find Iraq or Afghanistan on a map.

In conclusion, our enemy isn't the government or the main stream media. Our enemy is the apathy and ignorance of the American public at large. A hurdle much higher for Obama than Roosevelt despite the so called "Information Age".

[Dr Hobbitstein]

118. This is great!

Glad to see some solid support for our Prez on this board for once...

[napkinz]

124. KICK!

nt

[sheshe2]

125. ...

[napkinz]

126. :)

[Thinkingabout]

127. You made my day, thanks for your post, enjoyed

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

128. And "disrespect, treachery and betrayal" only covers the "progressives"

The teabaggers are on a whole other level still.

[IrishAyes]

129. Just when I think you can't possibly top your last offering....

you do.

[sheshe2]

131. Thank you Irish!

[Vietnameravet]

132. Great post and what makes it even more upsetting is

today on the front page of my local newspaper John Boehner is quoted as saying "Obama is responsible for the division in this country!"