Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:37 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
Don't Like The 5-4 Ruling In McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission ??? - Go Here:Plan: http://www.wolf-pac.com/the_plan Petition: http://www.wolf-pac.com/petition Home page: http://www.wolf-pac.com/ ![]() ![]()
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WillyT | Apr 2014 | OP |
PoliticAverse | Apr 2014 | #1 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #2 | |
PoliticAverse | Apr 2014 | #5 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #6 | |
PoliticAverse | Apr 2014 | #7 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #9 | |
mindwalker_i | Apr 2014 | #15 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #17 | |
mindwalker_i | Apr 2014 | #24 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #25 | |
mindwalker_i | Apr 2014 | #27 | |
Glassunion | Apr 2014 | #26 | |
mindwalker_i | Apr 2014 | #29 | |
JDPriestly | Apr 2014 | #19 | |
brooklynite | Apr 2014 | #28 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #30 | |
JDPriestly | Apr 2014 | #32 | |
Half-Century Man | Apr 2014 | #3 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #4 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #8 | |
Snarkoleptic | Apr 2014 | #10 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #11 | |
pa28 | Apr 2014 | #12 | |
blkmusclmachine | Apr 2014 | #13 | |
zeemike | Apr 2014 | #14 | |
Rex | Apr 2014 | #16 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #18 | |
denbot | Apr 2014 | #20 | |
pacalo | Apr 2014 | #21 | |
Zorra | Apr 2014 | #22 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #23 | |
Tuesday Afternoon | Apr 2014 | #31 | |
WillyT | Apr 2014 | #33 |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:40 PM
PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)
1. Today's decision wasn't about corporations, it was about spending by individuals.
Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:49 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
2. Does... Not... Matter... Get Money Out Of Politics...
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Response to WillyT (Reply #2)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:54 PM
PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)
5. And that proposed amendment doesn't do that, as it only concerns corporations,
and wouldn't affect or undo today's decision.
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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #5)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:59 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
6. So... You Have A Problem With This ???
Our Ultimate Goal:
To restore true democracy in the United States by pressuring our State Representatives to pass a much needed 28th Amendment to our Constitution which would end corporate personhood and publicly finance all elections in our country. There are only 2 ways to amend the Constitution. (1) Go through our federal government (2) Go through our State Legislators via an Article V. Convention of the States. Link: http://www.wolf-pac.com/the_plan ![]() |
Response to WillyT (Reply #6)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:12 PM
PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)
7. I see following the links to the '28th Amendment' that it includes more than was just on the
'petition' page. But it still isn't a full amendment. I would like to see a full
proposed amendment to understand what is specifically being proposed. BTW The Michigan legislature last week called for an Article V Convention http://www.michiganvotes.org/2013-SJR-V (although they want to limit it to a balanced budget amendment). |
Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #7)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:20 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
9. Really ??? - You Want To Stop This, Or What ???
Response to WillyT (Reply #9)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 12:55 AM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
15. WTF?
This isn't THE solution, but it a big part of A solution. Geeze, some people want a rainbow-farting pony...
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #15)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:13 AM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
17. "...some people want a rainbow-farting pony... "
Actually... that would be a vast improvement.
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Response to WillyT (Reply #17)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:35 AM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
24. Just for the record
My comment was in support of you and against the person denigrating the OP. Limiting corporate contributions would be a really good thing to do. Yeah, it doesn't support what the SC decision was about, but it's a really good step to take. The idea of fighting against it because it doesn't do everything strikes me as wanting rainbow-farting ponies.
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #24)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:13 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
25. My Bad... Thanks For Setting Me Straight... And For The Support...
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Response to WillyT (Reply #25)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:23 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
27. No problem, yesterday was a rough day
And I wasn't very clear in my message.
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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #15)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:16 PM
Glassunion (10,201 posts)
26. I'm sorry this is the best I could do...
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Response to Glassunion (Reply #26)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:24 PM
mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)
29. The best you could do was awesome!
You captured what I was thinking quite well
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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:22 AM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
19. Today's decision means that a millionaire who molests his own child (if someone like that
exists) could spend tens of thousands of dollars in a local judicial races to punish or reward judges according to the judges' treatment of the millionaire in court. I am assuming that this ruling will apply to local and state races eventually.
It means that small donations to a candidate from real, working people who earn their money honestly can be overwhelmed by the huge donations of criminals who have earned their money dishonestly -- illegally. It makes a joke of the idea of one person, one vote. |
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #19)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:23 PM
brooklynite (85,593 posts)
28. Actually, no it doesn't
I'm not supporting the ruling but I think we need to be accurate about what happened...
1) This was a ruling on FEDERAL election laws, not State or Local. 2) This limited the AGGREGATE contributions a person can make, not the CONTRIBUTION LIMIT for each race. |
Response to brooklynite (Reply #28)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:27 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
30. Not Yet Anyway, But It's Comin... Check Out This From TPM:
Response to brooklynite (Reply #28)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:09 PM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
32. I haven't read the decision, but thought it was about speech rights.
I realize that a federal law was overturned, but wouldn't the determination that speech rights reach political donations ultimately suggest that state laws could be invalidated?
Do you have alink to the decision? And aggregate contributions can affect individual races although it is less likely that they will in local and state elections. The aggregate contributions can buy what used to be called a machine, what has been called a slate. And, yes, it will mean that a very wealthy crook, say a child molester, could have inordinate influence on an election and even get himself elected. It already happens and could become more likely. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:49 PM
Half-Century Man (5,279 posts)
3. DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
JUST DO IT
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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #3)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:51 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
4. DO It !!! - And, DU It !!!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:54 PM
Snarkoleptic (5,931 posts)
10. This one has a lot of momentum.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 12:47 AM
zeemike (18,998 posts)
14. I signed the partition some time ago, when it first started
And will give them all the support I can...I wish I could do more because Chenk is right, this is the way to do it and it needs to be done.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 12:59 AM
Rex (65,616 posts)
16. Thanks for the links!
K&R!
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Response to Rex (Reply #16)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:16 AM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
18. You Are Quite Welcome !!!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:59 AM
denbot (9,859 posts)
20. Kick
I signed up for Wolf PAC today.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:08 AM
pacalo (24,721 posts)
21. K&R. And signed.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:23 AM
Zorra (27,670 posts)
22. signed, thanks WillyT nt
Response to Zorra (Reply #22)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:09 AM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
23. You Are Quite Welcome !!!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:41 PM
Tuesday Afternoon (56,912 posts)
31. Done. K&R
Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #31)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:34 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
33. Thank You !!!
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