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Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:05 PM

Congressman says NO is treason

Phoenix, Ariz: State Representative Al E. Katt today proposed legislation that would make it treason for a woman to refuse to have sexual intercourse with a Republican male.

"Since to refuse intercourse is ipso facto to murder a helpless child before it has even been conceived, any woman who refuses intercourse is committing pre-meditated murder. And since we know that Republicans are the only true Americans, and America is at war, to murder an American is clearly an act of treason. Therefore no woman should have the right to refuse intercourse with a Republican Male, or she should suffer the full penalty for treason."


** Sometimes, virtual truth may be more true than reality? How far away do you think this is, really?

-- Mal

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Reply Congressman says NO is treason (Original post)
malthaussen Mar 2012 OP
DJ13 Mar 2012 #1
ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #2
arcane1 Mar 2012 #3
cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #4
malthaussen Mar 2012 #5
Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #6
malthaussen Mar 2012 #7
freshwest Mar 2012 #8
felix_numinous Mar 2012 #9
usrname Mar 2012 #10
Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #29
malthaussen Mar 2012 #30
Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #31
Incitatus Mar 2012 #11
leveymg Mar 2012 #12
malthaussen Mar 2012 #14
leveymg Mar 2012 #15
malthaussen Mar 2012 #16
leveymg Mar 2012 #17
malthaussen Mar 2012 #18
leveymg Mar 2012 #19
malthaussen Mar 2012 #20
leveymg Mar 2012 #22
malthaussen Mar 2012 #23
leveymg Mar 2012 #24
malthaussen Mar 2012 #27
leveymg Mar 2012 #32
malthaussen Mar 2012 #33
leveymg Mar 2012 #26
Zalatix Mar 2012 #25
malthaussen Mar 2012 #28
zeemike Mar 2012 #13
varelse Mar 2012 #21

Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:12 PM

1. "State Representative Al E. Katt today proposed legislation...."

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:14 PM

2. Good satire. nt

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:14 PM

3. LMAO

 

Don't give them any ideas!!!

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:21 PM

4. Meh... He's just mad about being on every public database

 

his female counterparts could dream up.

That and because he found out during his public prostrate exam (which is now required for anyone who suffers from ED and is posted on youtube as per federal law) that his doctor was using something other than a finger.

**I think the hypothetical in your OP is really really really far away. In your heart of hearts, do you think it isn't? Really?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:31 PM

5. Let's put it this way...

In your heart of hearts, how much do you feel this legislation does not dwell in the imaginary Mr Katt's heart of hearts, or in the hearts of his constituents? As for whether or not such legislation will ever see the light of day, I could just go ahead and invoke Poe's Law, or at least a corollary that would state ya never know what these swine are going to pull next.

But I'll cop to the truth that in my heart of hearts, I sure do hope we'll never see such legislation.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:07 PM

6. This would be defeated by Democrats

 

unless the legislation was amended to include Democratic
men as being true Americans.


sorry, bad anti-men joke
[ducking]

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:13 PM

7. There are no bad anti-men jokes

So long as we are man enough to take them.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:20 PM

8. I always figured the GOP was anti-abortion because they might only get one chance to breed.

They've been pro-rape, for wife beating and pro-pedophila because they could not get sex if they had to ask permission.

I've got a million of these. But I don't want to come back as a pug. So I'll stop.

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:25 PM

9. Just assuring a massive backlash

from more and more women--keep it up!! ERA is getting closer and closer (ovary gang sign)!

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

10. Poe's Law

 

Activated!

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Response to usrname (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:33 AM

29. I had to look up Poe's Law

 

from Wikipedia

Poe's law, named after its author Nathan Poe,
is an internet adage reflecting the fact that without
a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult
or impossible to tell the difference between sincere
extremism and an exaggerated parody of extremism.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #29)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:35 AM

30. You'll find that both Poe's Law

... and Godwin's Law are useful in internet debates. In fact, both have been invoked in this thread.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #30)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:13 PM

31. now I have to look up Godwin's law

 

I know I know it, it's in my brain somewhere.

on edit: I just looked this up the other day and have forgotten already.

I'm going to send myself an email to see if I can remember tomorrow what it is.

In case anyone doesn't know, Godwin's law:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[2][3] In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

11. Legislation they dream about. nt

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:35 PM

12. It was similarly a crime against the Fatherland to deny birth to a good "racially valuable" German

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
The Lebensborn e. V. (eingetragener Verein, "registered association" was founded on 12 December 1935[4] to halt the high abortion rate (as high as 800,000 per year in the interwar period) and falling birth rates in Germany, and to promote Nazi eugenics.[1][5] Located in Munich, the organisation was partly an office within the Schutzstaffel (SS) and responsible for certain family welfare programmes, and partly a society for Nazi leaders.

On 13 September 1936, Himmler wrote the following to members of SS:

The organization "Lebensborn e.V." serves the SS leaders in the selection and adoption of qualified children. The organisation "Lebensborn e.V." is under my personal direction, is part of the race and settlement central bureau of the SS, and has the following obligations:

1. Support racially, biologically, and hereditarily valuable families with many children.
2. Place and care for racially and biologically and hereditarily valuable pregnant women, who, after thorough examination of their and the progenitor's families by the race and settlement central bureau of the SS, can be expected to produce equally valuable children.
3. Care for the children.
4. Care for the children's mothers.

It is the honourable duty of all leaders of the central bureau to become members of the organization "Lebensborn e.V.". The application for admission must be filed prior to 23 September 1936.[6]

In 1939, membership stood at 8,000 , of which 3,500 were SS leaders.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:42 PM

14. Poe's Law and Godwin's Law activated?

Not only that, the Fatherland used to issue medals to women who had many children. But so did other countries.

I happen to own a Motherhood Medal in gold.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:08 PM

15. The German Family Law is based in good old Gold Prize Better Babies and American Eugenics Theory

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Response to leveymg (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:13 PM

16. Yeah, eugenics was big

... back in the beginning of the 20th century. As you're probably aware, there were even programs of enforced -- and non-consensual -- sterilization of "undesireable" elements in some parts of the US -- and doubtless elsewhere. All part of the movement towards "rationality," and rejection of "sentimentality" in determining government policy.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:39 PM

17. Some of America's wealthiest supported the Eugenics Movement - lines up well with elites who

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supported and financed fascism and Nazi movements around the world during the following decades:

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Response to leveymg (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

18. Ugly stuff,

... and not so long ago as all that. Racial purity, ethnic cleansing, all rather inevitable outgrowths of the tendency of societies to objectify and villify those whom they do not choose to include within the group. The sad thing is that these attitudes do not go away with education (and may even be exacerbated by them), because they are seen as the necessary consequences of cold-blooded "rationality." We tend in the US to trivialize the Nazis as "madmen," failing to recognize that they perceived themselves (and were perceived by many others) as epitomizing "modern" thought.

But what a strange direction in which to take a thread that was a satire on the Republican War on Women, eh?

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:59 PM

19. The "satire on the Republican War on Women" brings us back to the pillars of the Republican Party

and the Right-wing Establishment who have run the US for more than a century. The real American Fascists aren't guys in flat-top hats and skinny mustaches, but some of the most respectable bankers and industrialists.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:06 PM

20. Which raises some pointed questions

About Ayn Rand, the Nazis, eugenics, and the White Supremacy movement of your choice. I'm no expert on Rand (in fact, I couldn't even get through The Fountainhead, let alone try to deal with Atlas Shrugged), but given the antecedents in her "theory" (if I may be permitted to dignify her scribblings as such) in the theory of the Superman, one would expect sympathetic links, even if no overt ones were present (and it is difficult to conceive of Ayn Rand supporting any group or individual other than Ayn Rand).

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:29 PM

22. There are much bigger figures in the Fascist International than Ayn Rand. She's a ditzy ideologue,

like Alfred Rosenberg or Lothrop Stoddard, not a serious investment banker like Harriman Brown Bros. Prescott Bush or Wall Street heavyweight lawyers like the Dulles Brothers who literally bankrolled or navigated legal barriers to sending hard currency to the German Extreme Right during the 1920s and 1930s.

Nonetheless, she had her admirers and groupies, like the former Chair of the Federal Reserve, who believe that they too are Supermen and that the rest of us are just, as postulated by Stoddard (an American race theorist of fairly wide influence), mere Untermensch.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #22)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:39 PM

23. The reason I raise Rand's name

... is because of her current vogue among the RW conservative lunatic fringe, and not to suggest that she had influence, or was even known, in Fascist circles in the interwar period.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:55 PM

24. Actually, she was known in fascist circles, particularly among White Russians/Baltics like Rosenberg

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Both Rand and Rosenberg were anti-communist exiles from the Bolshevik revolution. Rosenberg was a leading member of Aufbau Vereinigung (AV), Reconstruction Organisation, a conspiratorial group of White Russian émigrés which had a critical influence on early Nazi policy. Rand was a disillusioned Kerensky Liberal who moved Right after she arrived in California. There were a couple extra degrees of separation between their White Russian circles, on account of the vicious anti-semitism of Rosenberg's Nazi associates.

The White Russians and fascist sympathizer networks intermixed in Hollywood, where Rand made a living as a costume designer at RKO and a writer for other studios; they were a disparate group that included some very powerful figures, including several studio heads. Columbia Pictures' Harry Coln, Nicholas Schenck, and Louis B. Mayer were all admirers of Mussolini. The fascist tinge and fascination with Mussolini was more of a Depression-era fear of Communism and a common aesthetic with the Italian Fascists than the sort of committed racialism that animated Rosenberg and some American antisemites, such as Henry Ford. The public face of Right-wing Hollywood was the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals (MPA), formed in the early 1940s by rightists such as Adolph Monjou, John Wayne, and Ronald Reagan, at the time that Rand was emerging as a prominent figure in her own rightist circle.

Rand authored a pamphlet for the Alliance, entitled Screen Guide for Americans, where she wrote:
The purpose of the Communists in Hollywood is not the production of political movies openly advocating Communism. Their purpose is to corrupt our moral premises by corrupting non-political movies--by introducing small, casual bits of propaganda into innocent stories- thus making people absorb the basic principles of Collectivism by indirection and implication. The principle of free speech requires that we do not use police force to forbid the Communists the expression of their ideas--which means that we do not pass laws forbidding them to speak. But the principle of free speech does not require that we furnish the Communists with the means to preach their ideas, and does not imply that we owe them jobs and support to advocate our own destruction at our own expense. - Text form The Passion of Ayn Rand by Barbara Branden, p. 199

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Response to leveymg (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:02 AM

27. Interesting

Tracing the links of fascism through their various Euopean and American sympathizers is probably a lot like studying the Templars: there's a lot of information there, and probably some very interesting truths, but the subject is so crowded with crackpots, conspiracy theorists, and ideologues that sorting the wheat from the chaff must be challenging.

Fascism being the "logical" response to Communism, and Communism being such a feared movement among the ruling elites just about everywhere, I suspect that quite a few big names were fellow-travellers of the fascii. And much more dangerous than the kooks running around with swastikas on their arms today, who will never be more than cannon fodder and distractions.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:15 PM

32. There's an excellent book about Left and Right in Hollywood during the period on Googlebooks:

Hollywood Left and Right: How Movie Stars Shaped American Politics by Steven Ross.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #32)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:24 PM

33. Does look interesting

... have to put it on my list.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:04 PM

26. Meant to respond to your last comment, immediately above. Technical glitch.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #22)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:59 PM

25. And that movement has been revived

 

Replace genetic defectives with the working class and the 99% and you've got your modern roadmap to the revival of eugenics.

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Response to Zalatix (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:03 AM

28. I wouldn't say "revived."

It never really went away.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:37 PM

13. Whew that is a relief.

The law says nothing about us men being required to have sex with Republican women...that could be a real downer.
My advice to women is to stay away from them....it's your fault anyway because you have a uterus.

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Response to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:09 PM

21. not bad

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