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Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:06 PM

Isaac Asimov on anti-intellectualism...





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Reply Isaac Asimov on anti-intellectualism... (Original post)
SidDithers Mar 2014 OP
msanthrope Mar 2014 #1
Octafish Mar 2014 #50
zappaman Mar 2014 #52
SidDithers Mar 2014 #53
Octafish Mar 2014 #58
SidDithers Mar 2014 #59
Octafish Mar 2014 #62
SidDithers Mar 2014 #63
Octafish Mar 2014 #82
SidDithers Mar 2014 #87
Octafish Mar 2014 #90
SidDithers Mar 2014 #103
Octafish Mar 2014 #107
zappaman Mar 2014 #108
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snooper2 Mar 2014 #78
William769 Mar 2014 #2
Fumesucker Mar 2014 #3
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Fumesucker Mar 2014 #14
Rex Mar 2014 #27
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Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #72
zappaman Mar 2014 #73
zeemike Mar 2014 #31
CrawlingChaos Mar 2014 #86
IrishAyes Mar 2014 #95
tammywammy Mar 2014 #4
Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #5
Gothmog Mar 2014 #79
kelly1mm Mar 2014 #6
bemildred Mar 2014 #17
hatrack Mar 2014 #7
blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #8
sheshe2 Mar 2014 #9
dionysus Mar 2014 #10
jazzimov Mar 2014 #15
Throd Mar 2014 #24
whopis01 Mar 2014 #48
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dionysus Mar 2014 #26
OldBoss Mar 2014 #11
Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #13
bemildred Mar 2014 #16
ChazInAz Mar 2014 #18
CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #43
MisterP Mar 2014 #23
bemildred Mar 2014 #41
MisterP Mar 2014 #80
bemildred Mar 2014 #94
SDjack Mar 2014 #19
fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #74
toby jo Mar 2014 #20
Skittles Mar 2014 #21
zappaman Mar 2014 #22
SidDithers Mar 2014 #25
defacto7 Mar 2014 #32
HuckleB Mar 2014 #29
HuckleB Mar 2014 #28
Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #38
SidDithers Mar 2014 #45
sharp_stick Mar 2014 #76
zappaman Mar 2014 #77
HuckleB Mar 2014 #100
Cha Mar 2014 #36
Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #37
Blanks Mar 2014 #42
Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #39
YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #40
City Lights Mar 2014 #47
jtuck004 Mar 2014 #83
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Wilms Mar 2014 #46
Octafish Mar 2014 #49
zappaman Mar 2014 #54
Octafish Mar 2014 #60
SidDithers Mar 2014 #70
tclambert Mar 2014 #71
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SixString Mar 2014 #57
Fumesucker Mar 2014 #65
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Phlem Mar 2014 #89
MineralMan Mar 2014 #51
SidDithers Mar 2014 #55
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calimary Mar 2014 #61
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blackspade Mar 2014 #67
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jtuck004 Mar 2014 #84
africanadian Mar 2014 #85
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SidDithers Mar 2014 #104
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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:07 PM

1. Aren't you part of some claque or something??? nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:27 AM

50. ''Trolling is a art.'' -- SidDithers to zappaman

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Response to Octafish (Reply #50)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:43 AM

52. You better believe it!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #50)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:48 AM

53. Damn you BFEE!!...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #53)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:02 PM

58. Leaping to the defense of the warmongers and banksters of the BFEE.

Instead of mocking people for defending them, I'll do what I can to expose their treachery.

For those interested in the topic of what Bartcop termed the Bush Family Evil Empire:

Their trail as warmonger-banksters goes back at least to war profiteering during World War I, when Samuel Prescott Bush ran Remington selling rifles to both sides. Before that, there's evidence their ancestors were slave holders.

I've talked about his son, Prescott Sheldon Bush; grandson, George Herbert Walker Bush; and great-grandsons, George Walker Bush, John Ellis (Jeb) Bush, and Neil Mallon Bush.

I find it odd to read you use DemocraticUnderground to defend BFEE scum, which is odd for someone interested in supporting democracy.

Why you do so is your business, SidDithers. It is not mine.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #58)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:04 PM

59. They're behind everything. Even crop circles...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #59)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:15 PM

62. Defending the BFEE is more suited to conservative websites.

F'r instance:

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?58746-Machine-Gun-Mouth

What a coincidence. They use smilies, too.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #62)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:20 PM

63. Defending the BFEE!...



You really think that laughing at those who think every fucking thing is the fault of the BFEE, is "defending the BFEE"?




Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #63)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:10 PM

82. No. But you have never posted anything to criticize them.

So, there's that.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #82)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:17 PM

87. I was very critical of Bush, when he was President...

Now that he's not, he's irrelevant. I don't happen to share your tin-foil conspiracist worldview, that the BFEE operates as a shadow government, and is responsible for everything from killing JFK to getting chocolate in my peanut butter.

Oh, and I see you've gone back to sourcing Paul Craig Roberts again. The father of Reaganomics.

But I'm the one not critical enough of the BFEE.



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #87)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:10 PM

90. Really? Name one time.

A link, please.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #90)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:55 AM

103. Alright, here are a few...

Posted this article about him in 2006, "The War President's Latest Fiasco"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1985264

Called him stupid here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1069191&mesg_id=1069520

Called him a "fucking buffoon" here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1081608&mesg_id=1081988

I criticize his debate performance against Kerry here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=969592&mesg_id=973876
and here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x942391
and here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=940897&mesg_id=940996

I call him "Commander Bunnypants" here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=669432&mesg_id=669533

and "Commander Cuckoobananas" here:
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=678002&mesg_id=678140

criticizing Shrub's comments on the Daniel Berg beheading:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=550095&mesg_id=550339

"dumbass"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=982220&mesg_id=985674

criticizing Iraq policy:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608921&mesg_id=5612570

and on and on and on. I'm not going digging anymore because it's too hard to find threads in the DU2 archives without advanced search over there.


I eagerly await your apology.

Sid



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Response to Octafish (Reply #107)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:58 PM

108. Not to mention, you shook an astronaut's hand once!

You totally owned Sid!!!!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #107)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:17 PM

109. Move those goalposts!!...



You said just one time. I gave you a pile.

And now you change your criteria!

You: 'You defend the BFEE!!!'
Me: No, I laugh at those who think the BFEE is responsible for everything.
You: 'OK, well you never criticize the BFEE'
Me: No, I was critical of Bush when he was President, now I think he's irrelevant.
You: 'No you weren't. Show me where you were critical of Bush'
Me: Here you go, (bunch of links to show how I hold Bush in disdain)
You: 'But you don't criticize Bush as much as meeeeee!! Wharglalblrlle'
Me:

Keep trying, octafish.

Sid

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Response to Octafish (Reply #58)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:33 PM

78. Do you keep a spreadsheet, a Word doc or Excel?

 

Or is it just a SHITLOAD of favorites/bookmarks?

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:10 PM

2. kick & recommended.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:10 PM

3. The ultimate intellectual argument

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:51 PM

12. Yes, the ULTIMATE intellectual argument.

Do you have an issue with that?

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Response to jazzimov (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:56 PM

14. !

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:02 AM

27. Wow.

 

Was that serious?

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Response to Rex (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:16 AM

30. Alas...

... it's an odd world at DU.

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Response to HuckleB (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:31 AM

35. Indeed!

 

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Response to Rex (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:24 AM

33. Evidently you are unfamiliar with the most intellectual of all reasoned discourse, the ROFL smiley



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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:30 AM

34. I feel so foolish now.

 

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:12 PM

72. And don't forgot, "fuck Nader."

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #72)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:15 PM

73. Fuck RON PAUL!

Never forget!

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:17 AM

31. People who think they know everything

are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

Isaac Asimov

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:15 PM

86. OMG, direct hit!

You just made me laugh so hard. *bows to Fumesucker*

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Response to CrawlingChaos (Reply #86)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:25 PM

95. Fumesucker is always worth reading.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:15 PM

4. k&r

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:16 PM

5. K&R for the Good Doctor n/t

 

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:45 PM

79. Agreed

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:17 PM

6. Don't the mechanics of democracy, at least US style democracy, work that way though? An ignorant

person's vote carries just as much weight as a fully informed person's vote.

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Response to kelly1mm (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

17. That's why you need a good free education system in a democracy.

We used to have the finest in the world.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:18 PM

7. Asimovdo - it's got what brains crave!!

It's got like electolytes and shit!!

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:19 PM

8. "Feigned ignorance can also mask knowing evilness." - GWB

 

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:31 PM

9. Kick and Rec!

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:32 PM

10. OMFG he has the same hair as the ancient aliens guy Sid!!!!

vaht?

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Response to dionysus (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:02 PM

15. His HAIR?!?!?!?!?!

The man's writing changed my life and my way of thinking - and you're worried about his HAIR?!?!!?! Maybe you should read his words, first. I guess this just shows how shallow your opinion is.

Sorry, the Good Doctor wouldn't have approved of the above post. BTW, when that picture was taken that hairstyle was very popular. Just sayin'.



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Response to jazzimov (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:42 PM

24. Lighten up, I have the same deal. My head looks like a testicle that my hair is afraid of.

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Response to Throd (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:23 AM

48. That is just wrong

I now have a very vivid, animated image of that in my head...

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Response to Throd (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:01 PM

92. I don't know what that means. I'm AFRAID to know what that means.

And I'm still dying.

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Response to jazzimov (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

26. dude, it's a joke. i love The Foundation series. chillax man.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:41 PM

11. K&R, nt.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:51 PM

13. I have a bare wall

Where do I get that poster?

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:06 PM

16. I forget the actual number, but he wrote over 100 books IIRC.

Industrious doesn't quite cover it. Some of which were pretty good. And he was a great popularizer of science.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:19 PM

18. Well over two hundred.

And he wrote on, apparently, every topic. He was, and remains, one of my favorite writers and human beings. The field of science fiction has become pretty pathetic since he died.

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Response to ChazInAz (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:22 AM

43. Closer to 500 according to some experts

But most were nonfiction. In fact, in terms of novels he actually wrote very few. But they were some of the best.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

23. including a great book on the diastrousness of a group--uh, making sure that its knowledge

is more important than everyone else's ignorance ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Eternity

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Response to MisterP (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 05:57 AM

41. I read that a long time ago. Very apropos here, the "Platonic Guardians".

The hubris. They always start with the assumption that they should be the bosses, and then "reason" from there.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:40 PM

80. and it's sorta become a DU punchline after Syria

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Response to MisterP (Reply #80)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:23 PM

94. There you go. Perfect example. Damn shame I missed that thread. nt

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:21 PM

19. If Asimov would permit me to tinker with his statement, I would make it read: “… my ignorant

religious beliefs trump your knowledge.”

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Response to SDjack (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:21 PM

74. His book on the bible covers that!

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

20. First thought - Sarah Palin.

 

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

21. proof that teabaggerism is nothing new

 

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:27 PM

22. What are you?

Some kind of scientific materialist?!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

25. Long live the claque!...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:21 AM

32. I paid 1000 Lire

to the theater claque in Milan once so they wouldn't boo me off stage. I suppose it worked. ??

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Response to zappaman (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:15 AM

29. +1,000,000,000 .... 000

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:14 AM

28. Yup! And, yes, you are a curmudgeon looking for an anti-science DU bludgeon.

Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

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Response to HuckleB (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:03 AM

38. Spinning some folks into high dudgeon, and

... nope, there aren't any more.

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Response to HuckleB (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:37 AM

45. Just flinging poo, or something...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:30 PM

76. Damn you

scientific materialists and poo flinging. Ever notice how materialist sounds kind of like "imperialist"


hmmmmm?


I think they've got your number, the evidence is becoming harder. I actually read that "evidence is becoming harder" on DU once. I should have saved the post.

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #76)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:32 PM

77. Damn the harder evidence!

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:28 PM

100. I love a good patty throwing contest!

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:58 AM

36. Brilliant of Isaac Asimov.. thank you, Sid~ nt

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:02 AM

37. You're really gonna listen to a guy who is using his typewriter as a bong?

Seriously, pass that bad boy over here.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:11 AM

42. Just like his hairstyle...

Typewriter bongs were all the rage back then.

Or so I've heard.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:04 AM

39. Here's one for Obama: "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov

 

See drones for reference.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:06 AM

40. Ouch.

 

nt

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:22 AM

47. That's my sig line.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:10 PM

83. I'm guessing he never met one of our banksters. n/t

 

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:35 AM

44. Funny how no one

 

has pointed out the irony of the OP posting a criticism of anti-intellectualism.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:13 AM

46. ^

 





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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:25 AM

49. +2

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Response to Octafish (Reply #49)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:48 AM

54. says the guy who is baffled by crop circles!



Guess you don't agree with Isaac Asimov?
Oh well, I'm sure that sci-fi script you've been sitting on is way better than anything he wrote!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #54)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:10 PM

60. Of course, that's not what I wrote. But coming from you, misrepresenting what I write is not new.

Fascinating subject. One crop circle was a graphic representation of pi...



The circle is a coded representation of pi to the 10th significant figure



Most complex crop circle ever discovered in British fields

By Richard Savill
The Telegraph (UK)
Last Updated: 12:40PM BST 17/06/2008

The most complex, "mind-boggling" crop circle ever to be seen in Britain has been discovered in a barley field in Wiltshire.

The circle is a coded representation of pi to the 10th significant figure
The formation, measuring 150ft in diameter, is apparently a coded image representing the first 10 digits, 3.141592654, of pi.

It is has appeared in a field near Barbury Castle, an iron-age hill fort above Wroughton, Wilts, and has been described by astrophysicists as "mind-boggling".

Michael Reed, an astrophysicist, said: "The tenth digit has even been correctly rounded up. The little dot near the centre is the decimal point.

Article continuesadvertisement
"The code is based on 10 angular segments with the radial jumps being the indicator of each segment.

"Starting at the centre and counting the number of one-tenth segments in each section contained by the change in radius clearly shows the values of the first 10 digits in the value of pi."

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2144652/Most-complex-crop-circle-ever-discovered-in-British-fields.html



Have you read any books written by Isaac Asimov, zappaman? If so, what did he write about character assassination?

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Response to Octafish (Reply #60)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:46 PM

70. Actually, what you wrote was...

"Doubtful whether a pair of drunken RAF noncoms could figure this one out. "

Sid

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Response to Octafish (Reply #60)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:50 PM

71. Yeah, but most space aliens use base 12.

PI = 3.184809493B9186 in base 12

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Response to tclambert (Reply #71)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:43 PM

81. They also use mac.

That's how we saved the earth.
Watch the documentary INDEPENDENCE DAY starring Will Smith if you don't recall...

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Response to Octafish (Reply #60)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:26 PM

75. I wonder if Asimov was baffled by crop circles?

"Doubtful whether a pair of drunken RAF noncoms could figure this one out. "

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Response to Octafish (Reply #60)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:25 PM

88. right

No human could make crop circle like that.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #54)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:33 PM

96. Haha! Reminds me of this:

 



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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #96)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:05 PM

99. Greatest video ever!!!

&feature=kp

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:42 PM

57. + 1000





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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:24 PM

65. Evidently I was a bit too subtle..

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #65)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:31 PM

66. Derp.

 

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 05:09 PM

89. shhh

That's why it's hilarious.



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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:28 AM

51. In many ways, Isaac Asimov was my childhood

mentor. I read everything he wrote that I could get my hands on. From history and religion to science and speculation, he had an enormous influence on me as a boy, starting at age 9. I owe much of my life-long curiosity and continuing study of many subjects to his introduction of them to me.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #51)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:52 AM

55. I "discovered" him later in life...

During those impressionable youth years, I read all the Fantasy fiction that I could find, but never devoured Science Fiction in the same way.

In my mid 30s I said to myself - I really should try to read some Asimov. So I picked up I, Robot, and read it. Then the Foundation stuff, and then I was hooked.

I regret that I didn't start reading it when I was 14.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #55)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:02 PM

56. I continued reading him through high school.

Later, I read much of his non-science non-fiction writings. I learned a great deal from the man, and what I learned led me to read more about the same subjects.

As an adult, I wrote him a letter, thanking him for awakening my interest in so many subjects and for leading me down the path of being a non-fiction writer. He wrote back, thanking me for being one of those for whom he wrote all of that material. I never did get a chance to meet him, but would have welcomed an opportunity.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:11 PM

61. Few things more perfectly encapsulate the whole false-equivalence canard.

LOVE Isaac Asimov! Good to remind ourselves of this.

And thank goodness we now have one of his philosophical heirs in a high-profile position, and speaking out:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/09/neil-degrasse-tyson-tells-cnn-stop-giving-equal-time-to-the-flat-earthers/

I think we really need to get on this - start making it a bigger and bigger deal - til it starts permeating the national mindset.

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Response to calimary (Reply #61)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:21 PM

64. Exactly...

Watching Cosmos on Sunday night got me thinking of Sagan, and then of Asimov.

It's what inspired this thread.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #64)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:30 PM

101. I LOVED it! We set the video to record in case we missed it, but we didn't.

Thought it was really nicely done. Neil deGrasse Tyson is a most worthy heir to Dr. Sagan. And I'm very glad that with this enhanced profile, he's using it to draw attention to the damn false equivalence bullshit currently plaguing the vast majority of our media - oh "both sides! Both SIIIIIIIIIIIDES!!!!!"

And I'm glad they're updating anyway. We've learned a lot more about the cosmos and our own little neighborhood in it since the original series aired.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:37 PM

67. Nicely said.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:39 PM

68. YES this quote is for real!

from his 1980 essay, The Cult of Ignorance

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Response to alp227 (Reply #68)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:40 PM

69. Hehe...

Yeah, I usually try to confirm those things, before posting a cutesy facebook meme.



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:11 PM

84. Lot of truth in his fiction...

 

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:11 PM

85. One of the greats

 

I read dozens of his books, both fiction and non-

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:41 PM

91. There is absolutely no excuse for anti-intellectualism in the Internet age.

Point^2.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:04 PM

93. Cool OP. And damn if it didn't bring out some of DU's "finest" in the process



That chase after everyone on this site and then turn around and try to dictate how everybody else needs to respond.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #93)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:28 AM

104. Par for the course, eh?...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:45 PM

97. Thanks very much for an important OP,

followed though it was by the usual DU backstabbing and sniping by people trying to pee higher on the tree. (I also read Desmond Morris!)

Asimov was a wise guiding force in my life, too. His short story, "I'm in Mars Port Without Hilda" remains a favorite, along with much more educational fare. I especially love his textbooks; always knew I loved math even though I didn't care for most of my math teachers. I wound up hitting the wall in academia via calculus and physics. But when I picked up an Asimov textbook, it was a thing of pure joy to me. Beautifully written and almost impossible not to understand. Who else can make that claim but him? Nobody I ever heard of.

That's my favorite picture of him, too. So thanks all around. The way I love to whack at some men might look like male bashing, but not true. I love smart men. Stand in awe of some, Asimov chief among them.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:49 PM

98. Or, my lies deserve the same air time as your truths.

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:23 PM

102. K&R

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Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:42 AM

105. The irony is strong with this one. nt

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Response to LWolf (Reply #105)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:05 AM

106. Yes it is. N/T.

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