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Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:27 PM

McCain: 'We Are All Ukrainians'

DANIEL STRAUSS – FEBRUARY 28, 2014, 4:58 PM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) declared Friday that "we are all Ukrainians" in response to the news that Russia had taken over parts of Ukrainian Crimea.

"We are all Ukrainians," McCain said in an interview with TIME magazine published Friday. The comments came ahead of President Barack Obama's announcement that he would address the events.

McCain said that Russian President Vladimir Putin thinks "this is a chess match reminiscent of the Cold War and we need to realize that and act accordingly." The senior senator from Arizona added that that didn't mean he foresaw "a conflict with Russia, but we need to take certain measures that would convince Putin that there is a very high cost to actions that he is taking now."

The comment was a near carbon copy to what McCain said in 2008 when Russia invaded Georgia. At the time McCain said, "I know I speak for every American I say to him today, we are all Georgians."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-we-are-all-ukranians-now

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Reply McCain: 'We Are All Ukrainians' (Original post)
DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #1
Lint Head Feb 2014 #2
spanone Feb 2014 #3
malaise Feb 2014 #10
spanone Feb 2014 #12
malaise Feb 2014 #15
freshwest Mar 2014 #25
reformist2 Feb 2014 #4
tsuki Feb 2014 #5
freshwest Mar 2014 #28
frazzled Feb 2014 #6
freshwest Mar 2014 #27
cali Feb 2014 #7
dtotire Feb 2014 #8
Ilsa Feb 2014 #9
tanyev Feb 2014 #11
dtotire Feb 2014 #13
PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #14
FarCenter Feb 2014 #16
Marr Feb 2014 #17
Captain Stern Feb 2014 #18
KamaAina Feb 2014 #19
lordsummerisle Feb 2014 #20
Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #24
WinkyDink Mar 2014 #31
Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #36
Wounded Bear Feb 2014 #21
L0oniX Feb 2014 #22
The Magistrate Feb 2014 #23
freshwest Mar 2014 #32
FSogol Mar 2014 #26
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #41
WinkyDink Mar 2014 #29
WhiteTara Mar 2014 #30
freshwest Mar 2014 #33
Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #34
reformist2 Mar 2014 #35
polly7 Mar 2014 #37
PatrynXX Mar 2014 #38
marshall Mar 2014 #39
TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #40
lovemydog Mar 2014 #42
davidpdx Mar 2014 #43

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:29 PM

1. Shut up, old man!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:30 PM

2. So John does that mean you are also Pussy Riot?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:31 PM

3. johnny's rubbing his hands & licking his chops at the very notion of military intervention

war & palin.

the mccain legacy.

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Response to spanone (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:39 PM

10. What was McGramp's sidekick, Randy Scheunemann's role in Ukraine

He's a first rate war profiteer - involved in Georgia was pushing the idea of Georgia and Ukraine being brought into NATO years ago.

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Response to malaise (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:46 PM

12. wiki stuff...

While the foreign affairs advisor to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, Scheunemann was also a registered foreign agent (lobbyist) for the Republic of Georgia.[7][8]

On April 17, 2008, McCain spoke on the phone with Georgia President Mikheil Saakashvili about the situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, two troubled provinces that are considered part of Georgia but have been de facto independent since 1990. That same day, McCain issued a public statement condemning Russia and expressing strong support for the Georgian position. Also on that same day, Georgia signed a new, $200,000 lobbying contract with Scheunemann's firm, Orion Strategies. Scheunemann remained with Orion Strategies until May 15, when the McCain campaign imposed an anti-lobbyist policy and he was required to separate himself from the company.[9]

In mid-July 2008, The Sunday Times linked Scheunemann to Stephen Payne, a lobbyist covertly filmed as he discussed a lobbying contract and offered to arrange meetings with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and others, and recommended donations to the George W. Bush Presidential Library. Payne said Scheunemann had been "working with me on my payroll for five of the last eight years." [10]

A day after the election, a CNN article claimed that Scheunemann had been fired by the McCain campaign a week earlier for "trashing" campaign staff and "positioning himself with Palin at the expense of John McCain's campaign message." [11] A later article, however, stated that Scheunemann had not been fired, but that many of McCain's top staff wanted him fired and removed his access to his campaign email and Blackberry.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Scheunemann

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Response to spanone (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:48 PM

15. I'm betting he's a lobbyist for RWs in Ukraine

These guys destroy countries for profit. Truth will out.

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Response to spanone (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:38 AM

25. Imagining that McCain is still on Payne's payroll, not the other way around. Buncha rat bastids. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:31 PM

4. More blathering, interventionist nonsense.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:32 PM

5. No, I am an American. nt

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Response to tsuki (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:41 AM

28. Thank you for saying that. We have work to do here. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:35 PM

6. You are Scots-Irish, English, and Panamanian

Not Ukrainian.

I am not even Ukrainian. My family came from what was sometimes Poland, sometimes Russia, and now possibly Belarus. My other side came from Hungary. I am not Ukrainian.

Be quiet already. Weren't we all Libyan recently?

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:40 AM

27. We are also not in Iraq 10,000 years. John's still jonesin' for blood... money. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:36 PM

7. Shove that hackneyed, manipulative line up your ass, john.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:36 PM

8. We are all Ukrainians

I saw a census: 57% of residents in Crimea are Russians, the remainder are Ukranians or Tatars.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:37 PM

9. Yeah, we are the same in that our elected officials

are frequently corrupt.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:41 PM

11. Wait, does that change where the dang fence needs to be built?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:47 PM

13. We are all Ukranians

I saw a census: 57% of residents o Crimea are Russians; the rest are Ukranians or Tatars.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:47 PM

14. No McCain, you are a steaming pile of poo poo. eom

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:51 PM

16. Ethnic identity, citizenship, and bullshit sentiment are not all the same.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:54 PM

17. I wonder about McCain. Does he always do these things spontaneously, or

 

do you suppose he's part of the diplomatic dance? You know, sort of the 'bad cop', whose job it is to raise the specter of military intervention.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:54 PM

18. Shortly thereafter, Senator McCain emotionally, and emphatically, told President Putin...

to "Tear Down This Wall!"...then he fell asleep.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:23 PM

19. He must be from Chernobyl

 

right down the street from the nuclear plant.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:33 PM

20. who started this

"we are all..." crap?

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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:55 PM

24. Kennedy: I am a Berliner

 

The World ater 9/11: We are all Americans

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Response to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:42 AM

31. "I" is not "We."

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 12:16 PM

36. Thank you for clarifying that.

 

But I provided a more recent example.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:48 PM

21. No, Johnnie, you don't speak for all Americans...nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:50 PM

22. Bite me!

 

The only reason he is given any news time is because he says stupid stuff.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:51 PM

23. Well, Sir, At Least We Are Not All Arizonans....

"What a nimrod! What a ultra-maroon!"

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:47 AM

32. Thank you for my morning chuckle!



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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:39 AM

26. LOL. How many Americans could find Ukraine on a world map?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:35 AM

41. Palin can see it from her house

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:42 AM

29. Uh, no. WWII would preclude that for me.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:42 AM

30. Does that mean he's swilling vodka? He sounds drunk. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:48 AM

33. Desperately seeking validation for his neo-con masters. How many houses do you own now, John? n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:50 AM

34. McCain is all idiot.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:52 AM

35. I'm glad McCain is still around, inadvertently shooting his movement in the foot!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:32 PM

37. "McCain to Georgian President: "Today, We Are All Georgians"

By Robert Barnes
YORK, Pa. -- Sen. John McCain said he talked with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili this morning and told him he and his country have the support of Americans in their struggle for "freedom and independence.''

McCain considers himself a close friend and fervent supporter of Saakashvili and Georgia, and has taken a hard line against Russia since hostilities between the two countries began last week. He told a town hall meeting here today that Russia's aggression had ominous implications.

"The impact of Russian actions goes beyond their threat to democratic Georgia,'' McCain said. "Russia used violence against Georgia to send a signal to any country that chooses to associate with the West.

"We must make clear to Russian leaders that the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world require respect for the values, stability and peace of that world.''

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/08/mccain-to-georgian-president-t.html



BY SATYAM KHANNA ON AUGUST 15, 2008 AT 9:51 AM

"McCain: Georgia conflict is the ‘first serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.’"

Speaking at the Aspen Institute in Colorado yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that recent Russian aggression in Georgia is the “first…serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.” McCain seemingly ignored the Gulf War, 9/11, and the Iraq War, to name a few:

My friends, we have reached a crisis, the first probably serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War. This is an act of aggression.


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/08/15/27592/mccain-russia/


The truth about South Ossetia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/oct/31/russia-georgia



"Today, we are all Iraqis" - sorry, no source for that one.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:43 PM

38. I'm assuming he's pro National Socialists too

they are in the mix. far fewer of them than those living in Crimea yet Putin is using them This is the same moron who posed with Al Qaeda camps in Syria do'h.... even more complicated by Tea Party members , some who support Putin.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:10 AM

39. We are Americans

Let Ukraine (and the rest of the world) take care of itself.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:29 AM

40. No, Johnny but I'd get you a one way ticket and revoke your passport.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:14 AM

42. I am a Tartar

Saucian

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:55 AM

43. John McCain...predictable

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