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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:27 PM Feb 2014

McCain: 'We Are All Ukrainians'

DANIEL STRAUSS – FEBRUARY 28, 2014, 4:58 PM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) declared Friday that "we are all Ukrainians" in response to the news that Russia had taken over parts of Ukrainian Crimea.

"We are all Ukrainians," McCain said in an interview with TIME magazine published Friday. The comments came ahead of President Barack Obama's announcement that he would address the events.

McCain said that Russian President Vladimir Putin thinks "this is a chess match reminiscent of the Cold War and we need to realize that and act accordingly." The senior senator from Arizona added that that didn't mean he foresaw "a conflict with Russia, but we need to take certain measures that would convince Putin that there is a very high cost to actions that he is taking now."

The comment was a near carbon copy to what McCain said in 2008 when Russia invaded Georgia. At the time McCain said, "I know I speak for every American I say to him today, we are all Georgians."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-we-are-all-ukranians-now

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McCain: 'We Are All Ukrainians' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
Shut up, old man! TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #1
So John does that mean you are also Pussy Riot? Lint Head Feb 2014 #2
johnny's rubbing his hands & licking his chops at the very notion of military intervention spanone Feb 2014 #3
What was McGramp's sidekick, Randy Scheunemann's role in Ukraine malaise Feb 2014 #10
wiki stuff... spanone Feb 2014 #12
I'm betting he's a lobbyist for RWs in Ukraine malaise Feb 2014 #15
Imagining that McCain is still on Payne's payroll, not the other way around. Buncha rat bastids. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #25
More blathering, interventionist nonsense. reformist2 Feb 2014 #4
No, I am an American. nt tsuki Feb 2014 #5
Thank you for saying that. We have work to do here. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #28
You are Scots-Irish, English, and Panamanian frazzled Feb 2014 #6
We are also not in Iraq 10,000 years. John's still jonesin' for blood... money. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #27
Shove that hackneyed, manipulative line up your ass, john. cali Feb 2014 #7
We are all Ukrainians dtotire Feb 2014 #8
Yeah, we are the same in that our elected officials Ilsa Feb 2014 #9
Wait, does that change where the dang fence needs to be built? tanyev Feb 2014 #11
We are all Ukranians dtotire Feb 2014 #13
No McCain, you are a steaming pile of poo poo. eom PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #14
Ethnic identity, citizenship, and bullshit sentiment are not all the same. FarCenter Feb 2014 #16
I wonder about McCain. Does he always do these things spontaneously, or Marr Feb 2014 #17
Shortly thereafter, Senator McCain emotionally, and emphatically, told President Putin... Captain Stern Feb 2014 #18
He must be from Chernobyl KamaAina Feb 2014 #19
who started this lordsummerisle Feb 2014 #20
Kennedy: I am a Berliner Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #24
"I" is not "We." WinkyDink Mar 2014 #31
Thank you for clarifying that. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #36
No, Johnnie, you don't speak for all Americans...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2014 #21
Bite me! L0oniX Feb 2014 #22
Well, Sir, At Least We Are Not All Arizonans.... The Magistrate Feb 2014 #23
Thank you for my morning chuckle! freshwest Mar 2014 #32
LOL. How many Americans could find Ukraine on a world map? FSogol Mar 2014 #26
Palin can see it from her house Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #41
Uh, no. WWII would preclude that for me. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #29
Does that mean he's swilling vodka? He sounds drunk. nt WhiteTara Mar 2014 #30
Desperately seeking validation for his neo-con masters. How many houses do you own now, John? n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #33
McCain is all idiot. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #34
I'm glad McCain is still around, inadvertently shooting his movement in the foot! reformist2 Mar 2014 #35
"McCain to Georgian President: "Today, We Are All Georgians" polly7 Mar 2014 #37
I'm assuming he's pro National Socialists too PatrynXX Mar 2014 #38
We are Americans marshall Mar 2014 #39
No, Johnny but I'd get you a one way ticket and revoke your passport. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #40
I am a Tartar lovemydog Mar 2014 #42
John McCain...predictable davidpdx Mar 2014 #43

spanone

(135,814 posts)
3. johnny's rubbing his hands & licking his chops at the very notion of military intervention
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

war & palin.

the mccain legacy.

malaise

(268,852 posts)
10. What was McGramp's sidekick, Randy Scheunemann's role in Ukraine
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:39 PM
Feb 2014

He's a first rate war profiteer - involved in Georgia was pushing the idea of Georgia and Ukraine being brought into NATO years ago.

spanone

(135,814 posts)
12. wiki stuff...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:46 PM
Feb 2014

While the foreign affairs advisor to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, Scheunemann was also a registered foreign agent (lobbyist) for the Republic of Georgia.[7][8]

On April 17, 2008, McCain spoke on the phone with Georgia President Mikheil Saakashvili about the situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, two troubled provinces that are considered part of Georgia but have been de facto independent since 1990. That same day, McCain issued a public statement condemning Russia and expressing strong support for the Georgian position. Also on that same day, Georgia signed a new, $200,000 lobbying contract with Scheunemann's firm, Orion Strategies. Scheunemann remained with Orion Strategies until May 15, when the McCain campaign imposed an anti-lobbyist policy and he was required to separate himself from the company.[9]

In mid-July 2008, The Sunday Times linked Scheunemann to Stephen Payne, a lobbyist covertly filmed as he discussed a lobbying contract and offered to arrange meetings with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and others, and recommended donations to the George W. Bush Presidential Library. Payne said Scheunemann had been "working with me on my payroll for five of the last eight years." [10]

A day after the election, a CNN article claimed that Scheunemann had been fired by the McCain campaign a week earlier for "trashing" campaign staff and "positioning himself with Palin at the expense of John McCain's campaign message." [11] A later article, however, stated that Scheunemann had not been fired, but that many of McCain's top staff wanted him fired and removed his access to his campaign email and Blackberry.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Scheunemann

malaise

(268,852 posts)
15. I'm betting he's a lobbyist for RWs in Ukraine
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:48 PM
Feb 2014

These guys destroy countries for profit. Truth will out.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. Imagining that McCain is still on Payne's payroll, not the other way around. Buncha rat bastids. n/t
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 12:38 PM
Mar 2014

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. You are Scots-Irish, English, and Panamanian
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:35 PM
Feb 2014

Not Ukrainian.

I am not even Ukrainian. My family came from what was sometimes Poland, sometimes Russia, and now possibly Belarus. My other side came from Hungary. I am not Ukrainian.

Be quiet already. Weren't we all Libyan recently?

dtotire

(1,889 posts)
8. We are all Ukrainians
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:36 PM
Feb 2014

I saw a census: 57% of residents in Crimea are Russians, the remainder are Ukranians or Tatars.

dtotire

(1,889 posts)
13. We are all Ukranians
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:47 PM
Feb 2014

I saw a census: 57% of residents o Crimea are Russians; the rest are Ukranians or Tatars.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
17. I wonder about McCain. Does he always do these things spontaneously, or
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:54 PM
Feb 2014

do you suppose he's part of the diplomatic dance? You know, sort of the 'bad cop', whose job it is to raise the specter of military intervention.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
18. Shortly thereafter, Senator McCain emotionally, and emphatically, told President Putin...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:54 PM
Feb 2014

to "Tear Down This Wall!"...then he fell asleep.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
37. "McCain to Georgian President: "Today, We Are All Georgians"
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 02:32 PM
Mar 2014

By Robert Barnes
YORK, Pa. -- Sen. John McCain said he talked with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili this morning and told him he and his country have the support of Americans in their struggle for "freedom and independence.''

McCain considers himself a close friend and fervent supporter of Saakashvili and Georgia, and has taken a hard line against Russia since hostilities between the two countries began last week. He told a town hall meeting here today that Russia's aggression had ominous implications.

"The impact of Russian actions goes beyond their threat to democratic Georgia,'' McCain said. "Russia used violence against Georgia to send a signal to any country that chooses to associate with the West.

"We must make clear to Russian leaders that the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world require respect for the values, stability and peace of that world.''

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/08/mccain-to-georgian-president-t.html



BY SATYAM KHANNA ON AUGUST 15, 2008 AT 9:51 AM

"McCain: Georgia conflict is the ‘first serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.’"

Speaking at the Aspen Institute in Colorado yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that recent Russian aggression in Georgia is the “first…serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War.” McCain seemingly ignored the Gulf War, 9/11, and the Iraq War, to name a few:

My friends, we have reached a crisis, the first probably serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War. This is an act of aggression.


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/08/15/27592/mccain-russia/


The truth about South Ossetia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/oct/31/russia-georgia



"Today, we are all Iraqis" - sorry, no source for that one.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
38. I'm assuming he's pro National Socialists too
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:43 AM
Mar 2014

they are in the mix. far fewer of them than those living in Crimea yet Putin is using them This is the same moron who posed with Al Qaeda camps in Syria do'h.... even more complicated by Tea Party members , some who support Putin.

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