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Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:02 AM

Are they starting a whispering campaign for a 'draft Daniels' campaign?

Personally I want them to nominate any one of these idiots - otherwise known as announced candidates - for President.

The Republicans changed the rules so that with 27 proportional primaries before April 1 it will all but guarantee that the primary competition will go to the convention. The more fractured the first four primaries are the more likely that no one will get enough delegates to reach the magical 1145 delegates necessary to secure the nomination.

Two previous threads on the subject:



If you were to wipe the slate clean and start over who would you choose?

I would choose Daniels/McDonnell Governors of Indiana and Virginia, two states essential for a Republican victory.

The main obstacle is 'springing' it on the delegates. So you would have to start a whispering campaign and build support in the grassroots.

Has it begun?

You would want to:

a) go to the heart of the presumptive nominee and get some critical support and start the whispering
b) start the pundits talking about it and then
c) start throwing out some red meat issues that will attract the Tea Party/Right Wing section of the party.

And that is exactly what is happening;

Last month Michigan GOP has a major fundraiser and invites Daniels to speak;


Cue the Whisperer, and I love this part of it, the guy who starts the whispering, sits in the office that Romney's dad used to have, Governor of Michigan and that state where Mitt Romney was raised;


What does Governor Snyder (now remember this is the guy who occupies the office that Romney's father now holds) say?

"But when people were talking about people that should run for president, Gov. Daniels … really would have been an outstanding candidate. Again, I’ll be blunt, compared with some of the people running today, (he would have been) head and shoulders above them."

Cue the pundits (three days ago):

The Hill


We have seen enough of the Republican debates to render a verdict: the big winner of the Republican debates is President Obama, because not one of the GOP candidates can both appeal to a majority of Republicans, and be seen by the general electorate as credible.

The second winner is Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana, who may still be called to duty in the Republican campaign.

The political collapse of Newt Gingrich has now begun. He will either self-destruct before the convention, which is most likely, or during the general-election campaign, leading to a gigantic landslide for Obama. Where I have disagreed with almost all political analysts from the beginning is that first, I have always believed that Ron Paul will be, at least, one of three finalists and second, the various Republican fly-by-night front-runners were always destined to crash.

I predicted Daniels a year ago. I don't believe that any of the current candidates are going to get 51% of the delegates. If Pawlenty had stayed in the situation might have been different but it looks like Romney is going to lose to Paul in IA.

As other campaigns have imploded ROMNEY HAS FAILED TO PICK UP A SINGLE POINT IN IA OR NH. In fact in NH after Cain and Gingrich imploded Romneys' numbers went down and not up.

If they are preparing for a Daniels draft then Daniels will need to start throwing out some red meat for the Tea Party/John Birch/Nut Job wing of the party.

Now what are the traditional issues that get their blood pressure up? Well flag burning of course, but then the other old stand by - right to work.

Right on time cue Daniels and a sudden change to support right to work legislation, now given events in Wisconsin and Ohio, given OWS actions you wouldn't expect a smart politician to jump on that fire. In fact Daniels recent book he was 'scornful' of right to work advocates;

Cue the policy change (4 days ago):


INDIANAPOLIS— Gov. Mitch Daniels said Thursday he will support a "right-to-work" measure in his final legislative session as governor.

Daniels has all but said over the last few months that he wants to make Indiana the 23rd state to ban businesses and unions from requiring workers to pay union dues or other labor fees. Thursday he made his support official.

"After a year of study and reflection, I have come to agree that it is time for Indiana to join the 22 states which have enacted right to work laws," Daniels said in a statement Thursday.

Opponents and supporters of the issue have clamored to claim public support for their side. But a poll released earlier in the day by Ball State University showed Hoosier's are largely undecided on the issue. Of 607 Hoosiers polled in November, 48 percent said they were undecided, 27 percent said they support the measure and 24 percent said they oppose it. The poll carries a 4.4 percent margin of error.

Daniels' new support for the measure marks an evolution of sorts. Earlier this year he asked lawmakers to postpone debate on the issue, lest it derail his attempts to pass sweeping education legislation amid the national glare of presidential speculation. In his recently-released book, Daniels was scornful of "right-to-work" advocates.

I know, I know its impossible, never going to happen.

And yet it seems that all of this impossible not going to happen stuff is right on cue and right on script.

Just sayin'.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:04 AM

1. I thought we were done with Jack in the Oval Office.


Leave it to the Repubs to try and find another shrub to pickle.

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Response to izquierdista (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:09 AM

3. Probably to early for Jeb they need a stand in for 2016 that will excite the base

Romney is going to put the base asleep and cost them Senate and House seats.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:04 AM

2. Charlie Daniels would probably be a better choice for them

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 04:29 AM

4. Great plan, but do you think the (R)s are capable of anything so subtle?


"Bull in a china shop" or "Serial Killer on a Spree" is more what we've gotten used to over the past couple of decades.

Without blood and guts, Republican voters lose interest in a hot second.

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Response to DCKit (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:10 AM

5. Actually it is a second parachute plan

If they continue the way that they are then not only will the President be re=elected but they will face big loses in Senate and House because the base will not come out for Romney.

Getting a new candidate at the convention will excite the media but some of those that fought it out in the primaries will feel disenfranchised.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:21 AM

6. I think a large portion already feels disenfranchised.


You can probably take a bunch right off the top for Sarah Palin - quitter extraordinaire.

Many of the other (R) voters and Teabaggers have fallen in love and got their hearts broke over Cain, then the ups and downs with all the other pretenders. Additionally, traditional (R)s identify with a totally different type than the Teabaggers - they're going to split their own vote.

50% are going to be unhappy with whomever is chosen, and that bodes well for (D)s, from the President on down.

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Response to DCKit (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:09 PM

7. I agree that's why I think that the unusual possibility of an open convention is now more likely.

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