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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/santorum-microscope-attending-church-service-pastor-tells-non-chistians-article-1.1047510Santorum under microscope after attending church service where pastor tells non-Chistians to get out
The Republican presidential candidate is coming under the microscope after he attended a Louisiana church service this week where the pastor suggested non-Christians should "get out" of America.
The Rev. Dennis Terry of the Greenwell Springs Baptist Church gave the fiery speech on Sunday; it has since gone viral. In it Terry is seen introducing Santorum to the congregation, saying, "I know Rick really well, and he is the real deal."
During his sermon, Terry called on his congregants to "stand up" against liberals, homosexuals and women who have abortions.
"Listen to me. If you don't love America, and you don't like the way we do things, I've got one thing to say, get out!" he said. "We don't worship Buddha, we don't worship Mohammed, we don't worship Allah. We worship God. We worship God's son Jesus Christ."
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Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)while this guy talks out of his ass. Oh, and Wright is black so he was automatically labeled a "radicial".
RZM
(8,556 posts)You've probably already seen these, but just in case, here is Wright on AIDS:
http://www.goodquotes.com/quote/jeremiah-wright/we-started-the-aids-virus-we-are-only
Here he is being confronted with his statements on AIDS and essentially backing them up. Is this really somebody you want to defend? Obama was right to cut him loose.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)America's chickens came home to roost.
qazplm
(3,626 posts)but whatever.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)from interfering in and bombing the Middle East for decades. Ever wonder why Al Qaeda never attacked Finland?
The terrorists didn't attack us for our freedom like GWB would like us to believe.
RZM
(8,556 posts)He talked about Grenada, Hiroshima, Libya, South Africa, Iraq, and the American West . . . none of which Al-Qaida really gave a shit about.
He did mention Palestine, which is AN issue, though not really the central one for Al-Qaida.
It was lazy, uniformed, armchair FP analysis full of cliches. It was light on serious analysis and heavy on bullshit about karma.
There is a case to make there. But he certainly didn't make it in that Sept. 16, 2001 speech.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)But that's what he meant. America's foreign policy has been a disaster for decades and America's chickens came home to roost. That's what he meant.
RZM
(8,556 posts)It was a lazy argument. I'm not saying he's obligated to read from 'Foreign Affairs' at the pulpit, but you also have to take the argument for what it is and not what you want it to be. It was essentially a folsky spiritual argument about karma. That's fine for church, but you're not portraying this as an argument for church. You're portraying it as a real critique of US foreign policy. And it certainly wasn't that. It provided disparate examples that had nothing to do with one another and tied them together with a meaningless cliche he cribbed from Malcolm X.
BTW, I would argue the same thing about Macolm X's original 'chickens' quote about the Kennedy assassination. It sounds nice and all, but it tells us nothing about why Kennedy was killed.
Something as complex as the causes for 9/11 and legacies of US foreign policy can't be adequately condensed into a speech like this without losing a whole lot along the way. It was big on style, little on substance.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)He was giving a sermon, not an hour-long detailing of every single US foreign policy blunder that lead to 9/11.
But his overall point was clear IMO.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)Probably because they do it so often.
NeedleCast
(8,827 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Because they might consider that a badge of honor to do.
The Right will bash on any Left Leaning Politician spouting off a message of hate and call them hateful, however have any from the Right spout of a message of hate, and they will laud it for being "Conservative".
So no, I doubt that this one would even get much traction on the general populace. If that were the case, Santorum has said so many dumb hateful things as is. Even then, he's giving Mitt a run for his money.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Meaning that he'll get a pass and the press will give it zero attention, just as they did Grandpa MCain and Hagee - or like they did with all those lunatics Perry put on at his event.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)He's white and a Republican. He could get on stage and say the n-word openly, and probably get away with it.
boxman15
(1,033 posts)USArmyParatrooper
(1,827 posts)Obama actually got the nomination.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Not only won't Santorum take any heat for it, he'll be praised by the mouth breathers that he calls his "base".
catbyte
(34,373 posts)like there was with Jeremiah Wright. Sad but true.
Lawlbringer
(550 posts)Yes, it's a religious figure associated with the candidate.
The glaring difference is that it was at an actual Santorum campaign rally. Whereas, while Wright has said so many incendiary things, he never did it on behalf of Obama, at an Obama event. (Right?)
tjwash
(8,219 posts)I wish people would make up their minds about that.
I guess it could be his Wright moment. Actually, its close...if the video only took 4 statements from several individual sermons, cherry picked 8 words out of 900 making sure that they were horribly out of context, and then forwarded them around white supremacist websites where no one would fact-check or dispute the claims, and then finish it up with 24 hour coverage on fox news for a few weeks, it would be exactly the same thing!
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)Yes, the pastor should get out. Here in America, there's something called freedom of religion. Bye bye bigot!
Initech
(100,063 posts)Churches should be losing their tax exempt status left and right - they are not even trying to hide it anymore.