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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:21 PM Jan 2014

A Giant Military Surveillance Blimp Is Going to Constantly Monitor the East Coast

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By the end of the year, there will likely be two giant Army blimps hovering 10,000 feet above Baltimore with the ability to see 340 miles in any direction.

Most forms of surveillance have weaknesses: If they’re ground-based, they have range limitations. Predator drones have to refuel and don’t have the ability to hover in one spot. Helicopters are really loud and generally have to fly pretty low. That’s where JLENS comes in. It’s a giant, 243-foot long blimp that’s tethered to the ground. It has ridiculously powerful radar and cameras. It pretty much doesn’t have to move, and it only has to land once a month or so for quick maintenance.

Yes, that means the entire mid-Atlantic region will, at least, have the potential to be under “persistent surveillance,” a dream term for those in the intelligence biz and a worst-case scenario for those who care a lick about privacy. One aerostat that was tested in Utah last year was able to follow individual vehicles “dozens of miles away” and watch a test subject plant a fake bomb on the side of the road. According to the Washington Post, the Army has “no current plans” to use that high-powered video sensor in Maryland, but wouldn’t rule out using it in the future.

Rumors of the Army buying a JLENS from Raytheon to put in Aberdeen, Maryland, have been swirling for a couple years now—earlier this year, Timothy Carey, then-Vice President for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance with Raytheon told me that “it depends on the day of the week” as to whether the Army wanted to go ahead and purchase one. Well, it seems they’ve made up their mind. They’re reportedly buying two blimps at a cost of roughly $2.7 billion—one will use a long-range radar and the other will use a higher-frequency radar to help target threats.

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/a-giant-military-surveillance-blimp-is-going-to-constantly-monitor-the-east-coast

I'm torn between my love for dirigibles and my love for dirigibles. Sorry.

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A Giant Military Surveillance Blimp Is Going to Constantly Monitor the East Coast (Original Post) onehandle Jan 2014 OP
"They thought they were free." woo me with science Jan 2014 #1
5.4 billion to spy on east coast questionseverything Jan 2014 #4
Oddly phallic nt Xipe Totec Jan 2014 #2
Aren't most things in aviation that way? CFLDem Jan 2014 #3
They're putting them over Baltimore?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #5
I wonder if they can see Canada from there? bvar22 Jan 2014 #19
Think it'll get a better picture of my cottage than this??? elleng Jan 2014 #6
I wouldn't leave my curtains open if I were you. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #11
OK!!! elleng Jan 2014 #34
And BTW ... lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #35
Thanks, ipbk, elleng Jan 2014 #38
Let's hope they can monitor radiation RobertEarl Jan 2014 #7
I don't usually buy blimps but $2.7 billion seems a tad pricey: that's about what it cost struggle4progress Jan 2014 #8
It's disheartening to realize I'm living the ascent of fascism 1000words Jan 2014 #9
We shouldn't advance technology because "fascism" LOL nt Progressive dog Jan 2014 #10
Not the technology, it's application. 1000words Jan 2014 #22
The application is to detect incoming planes and missiles. Progressive dog Jan 2014 #23
I'm mistaken, I guess. 1000words Jan 2014 #24
Yes, it is a kind of fascism... CJCRANE Jan 2014 #13
A 10,000 foot tether in the Northeast corridor. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #12
They don't have too much trouble keeping aircraft away from DC. MADem Jan 2014 #30
or a Category 5 hurricane? PADemD Jan 2014 #40
Glad they've found a way to repurpose flamingdem Jan 2014 #14
What can it do that satellites cannot? Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #15
Wondered that myself. Maybe it's to intimidate the Public..by being visible? KoKo Jan 2014 #16
They should paint big polka dots on it. Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #17
Tethered, eh? 10,000 feet, eh? MineralMan Jan 2014 #18
Aerial coverage of today's Ravens-Steelers game brought to you by... KamaAina Jan 2014 #20
Does that thing look strangely obscene? ananda Jan 2014 #21
Sometimes a surveillance blimp is just... Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #25
OK, guarantee that it won't be used to spy on people. Savannahmann Jan 2014 #26
Drive on any major road coming into DC, and right round Bawl-more, unless you're MADem Jan 2014 #27
Since when is it legal for the military to surveille the civilian population? Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #28
We've had satellite surveillance for many years. upaloopa Jan 2014 #29
Keyhole satellites--very clear images. MADem Jan 2014 #31
This should be entertaining... giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #32
Yes, because roadside bombs are such a big problem in the USA. Holy fuck. What insanity. CrispyQ Jan 2014 #33
Does it work during a Hurricane ? /nt jakeXT Jan 2014 #36
God, what will the geniuses think of next to "protect" us from? Paper cuts? Banana peels? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #37
Taking big brother's bent for keeping both eyes on its citizens to dizzying, indepat Jan 2014 #39

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
4. 5.4 billion to spy on east coast
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jan 2014

$5,400,000,000. on 2 toys

but no money for food stamps, healthcare, environmental protections

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
5. They're putting them over Baltimore?...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jan 2014

Surely, just testing them for use over North Korea.

( Come back to us, Hannah Bell. We miss you. )

Sid

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
11. I wouldn't leave my curtains open if I were you.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jan 2014



They could probably read your mail if your desk is by a window.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
35. And BTW ...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jan 2014



what a beautiful idyllic setting. How much I envy you.
This is the kind of picture you see on calendars and such.




elleng

(130,865 posts)
38. Thanks, ipbk,
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:33 PM
Jan 2014

yes, it is idyllic. Too cold to be at the river at the moment, but its a utterly wonderful.

The photo was taken by a photographer working for a small company that hires a small plane to fly around (southern Maryland,) and shoot spots whose owners (in my case, renters) they think would like such pics. This was taken in September. The salesman drove up one day with this (and another) picture, and considering very reasonable price, and immediate framing, I bought them both.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. Let's hope they can monitor radiation
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:33 PM
Jan 2014

That would make them very useful.

Years ago, these type blimps were seen flying over the Fla Keys. Don't know if they still are.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
8. I don't usually buy blimps but $2.7 billion seems a tad pricey: that's about what it cost
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jan 2014

to put Curiosity on Mars

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
9. It's disheartening to realize I'm living the ascent of fascism
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jan 2014

With maybe 35 years left, I hope I'll see it's fall ...

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
22. Not the technology, it's application.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:25 PM
Jan 2014

Didn't think further explanation was necessary, but here we are.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
13. Yes, it is a kind of fascism...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jan 2014

but as a sci-fi fan since the 70s and 80s, it's interesting to watch all this play out.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
12. A 10,000 foot tether in the Northeast corridor.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:09 PM
Jan 2014



Sure ... no problem.


Anyone want to start a raffle on how soon an airliner will hit it?


MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. They don't have too much trouble keeping aircraft away from DC.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jan 2014

And that's with National right there.

They'll just build a little no-fly zone around it. Anyone getting close will get shot outta the sky if they ignore directives to turn away.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. Wondered that myself. Maybe it's to intimidate the Public..by being visible?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jan 2014
After all we are "Still at War" with "Terrorism." The more surveillance the safer we will all feel! Maybe they could paint pretty colors on it..too.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
18. Tethered, eh? 10,000 feet, eh?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:18 PM
Jan 2014

How long until some plane hits the tether, I wonder? I'm sure there will be a NOTAM for it, but lots of private pilots sort of ignore those a lot, just flying around on a lark. Lots of private planes on the East Coast.

I foresee problems down the road from a 10,000 foot tether. Actually, it will be longer than that, and won't go straight up and down, either. Problems galore.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
26. OK, guarantee that it won't be used to spy on people.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jan 2014

The way you do that is if anyone directs any of those cameras at some back yard with a teenaged girl in it and zooms in that they get life in prison without parole.

But since we won't make any punishment for people who are using these damned things to spy on us, then we'll all just pretend we're safe.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Drive on any major road coming into DC, and right round Bawl-more, unless you're
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jan 2014

completely oblivious, it's obvious that there's a lotta surveillance happening.

There are cameras all along the roads. They aren't just looking at traffic patterns. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more going on that we can't see, as well.

Once you get in range of the seat of government and the vacation location of the POTUS at Naval Support Facility Thurmont (aka "Camp David&quot it is only logical to anticipate that there will be more of this sort of thing.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
28. Since when is it legal for the military to surveille the civilian population?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jan 2014

FUCK THAT NOISE.

They see what's coming.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
29. We've had satellite surveillance for many years.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jan 2014

My father-in-law worked for Northrup Grumman and told me of instruments that can be used to read newspapers from space.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
33. Yes, because roadside bombs are such a big problem in the USA. Holy fuck. What insanity.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jan 2014

I'm more worried about gun freak dropping his loaded gun on the floor of the grocery store or start shooting cuz the checker didn't give him the correct change than I am a fucking roadside bomb.

What a lovely little way to siphon the treasury to the 1% to put in place a security apparatus to control us.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
39. Taking big brother's bent for keeping both eyes on its citizens to dizzying,
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jan 2014

if not breath-taking, heights.

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