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Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:10 PM

Since Dems finally are acknowledging Republican political crimes, what about Rove & Siegelman?

If Obama pardoned Siegelman and let the AG investigate and indict Karl Rove for his various crimes to cripple the democratic process, and instead of doing it quietly, giving a speech about it, it could make it a lot harder for Republicans to do these dirty tricks in the future.

And to give it the Obama touch, he could leave the words "Republican" and "Democrat" completely out of it.

Democrats unwillingness to act on this kind of stuff has been surreal. It is as if zombies were eating their children and their response is to say, "I have some policies differences with them."

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:22 PM

1. 1st rec. And I agree 100%. This travesty of "justice" being allowed to continue

makes me sick, and should make every one of us, and every Democratic "leader" , sick enough to FINALLY do something about it. Your final sentence sadly, sums up that "leadership' for decades now, not just regarding the Siegelman imprisonment, but the entire party's response to the turning of the republican party from the one I remember as a young person; mostly honorable people with whom we had disagreements , to the dangerous lunatic bullies ,criminals and out and out fascists they've become, with the great help of an enfeebled, enabling Democratic establishment..

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Response to abq e streeter (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 20, 2014, 01:09 PM

3. the list of crimes the Dems have looked the other way for gets longer all the time:

Nixon's secret Vietnam negotiations in '68

the October Surprise in '80

Iran Contra-which involved two out of the last three Republican presidents

Bush's creative use of signing statements

Bush's lying to Congress on Iraq, Medicare Part D

Actually, I made up this impeachment postcard to send Congress years ago, and looking back at it, I can see why Congress and Obama didn't take action on many of them: they were complicit in the case of Congress and planned to continue them in the case of Obama.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:42 PM

2. From your keyboard

to the the universe's ears!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2014, 01:17 PM

4. The very first thing on Eric Holder's "To Do" list after getting appointed Attorney General...

...was the get corrupt Republican Senator Ted Stevens out of jail.


but unjustly imprisoned Democratic Governor Don Siegelman?
...Never heard of him.



For a good summary of the political imprisonment of Don Siegelman:

1.Election Night 2002
A controversial and unauthorized after-midnight
recount switches election victory from Governor
Siegelman to Bob Riley.

2. Affidavit Points to White House
Troubled Republican and Riley-Campaign worker,
Jill Simpson, swears that Karl Rove is behind the
Siegelman prosecution.

3. The Extreme Sentencing of Don
Siegelman

The nation's eyes turn to Alabama as Siegelman is
shackled and handcuffed, causing an uproar in
progressives and conservatives alike.

4. Did Karl Rove Help Send an Innocent
Man to Jail?

THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE INVESTIGATION
into the political prosecution and conviction of former
Alabama governor Don Siegelman... leads inevitably to
former senior White House aide Karl Rove.


http://donsiegelman.org/don-story_home.html





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Response to bvar22 (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 20, 2014, 01:57 PM

5. I forgot about the Ted Stevens bit. It makes me wonder if Siegelman did something to piss off

someone more powerful than Karl Rove like those whose power is constant regardless of who is in elected office.

What did he do as governor that could have deserved this level of retaliation?

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Response to yurbud (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:55 PM

6. He must have done SOMETHING to piss off the Koch Brothers.

The Democratic Party leadership refuses to even discuss Don Siegelman.

I could understand the Republicans ignoring him,
but Siegelman was a fairly decent Democratic Governor,
and refusing to even contest his imprisonment just gives the governorship of Alabama to the Republicans.

It reminds me of the Democrats not contesting questionable elections
or gerrymandering
or the lynching of ACORN,
or a dozen other outrages.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:35 PM

7. It's tough to support a party that gives up before halfway paying attention constituents do

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