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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:44 AM Jan 2014

I once kicked the TV and it started working (TRUE STORY)

However, I fully understand that while those two things seem related, I cannot beyond a reasonable doubt make the claim that

1.kicking TV's cure them
2 my kick indeed cured the TV (maybe something else happened at the same time?)
3. also it does not help me understand how the TV was cured


This in short is why we use the scientific process.

1. No ensure that things are not random error
2. To understand how things work and how they are related
3. To make sure that following something doesn't lead to something worse (you kick the tv, and break it further, for instance)


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I once kicked the TV and it started working (TRUE STORY) (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 OP
Must have been back in the days of marybourg Jan 2014 #1
yes, was a whilst ago. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #3
Some transistor TVs still had em relays in various places Recursion Jan 2014 #11
Just wondering. What medical model was used to heal your foot? Wilms Jan 2014 #2
time. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #5
How did Vioxx kill between 40,000 and 60,000 people? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #4
at no point am i claiming the process/users are perfect La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #6
I suspect that the whole system is so utterly rigged these days, MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #10
That's why Science is a continual test. Gore1FL Jan 2014 #12
If it is honestly applied it does. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #26
you're really going to throw yourself completely in the "ineffectiveness of science in medicine" Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #14
also i think in the case of Vioxx the scientific process was definitely subverted La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #7
That's not a problem with the scientific process. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #19
That was failure caused by corruption. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #20
Was it a tube TV? firsttimer Jan 2014 #8
It was a miracle... progressoid Jan 2014 #9
Miracles! Heidi Jan 2014 #21
I was told the technical term for that was Calcitro Concussion. n/t kickysnana Jan 2014 #13
Mechanic said car computer was my problem RobertEarl Jan 2014 #15
Your foot is magic! Starry Messenger Jan 2014 #16
That's not nearly as cool as how I used to fix my old Sega Genesis and N64. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #17
I once kicked my TV and there was a plane crash in New Jersey pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #18
A Right Winger would claim kicking the TV got it working because it was lazy. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #22
Working at a TV station where most of the equipment is now over 10 years old BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #23
But you cured the TV! Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #24
percussive maintenance a2liberal Jan 2014 #25
I put mine in the car and drove it to the repair shop. GeorgeGist Jan 2014 #27
The same thing worked for my nephew Glassunion Jan 2014 #28

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
1. Must have been back in the days of
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:47 AM
Jan 2014

tubes. That was the standard first-strike repair effort back then. Worked about half the time, but usually only until the tube loosened up again.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. Some transistor TVs still had em relays in various places
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:06 AM
Jan 2014

And even in a transistor TV, a jolt could reseat a loose port somewhere.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
4. How did Vioxx kill between 40,000 and 60,000 people?
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:48 AM
Jan 2014

I fundamentally agree with you, but the scientific process has been having some serious problems of late, in the rare instances where it's used.

Frustrating!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
6. at no point am i claiming the process/users are perfect
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:49 AM
Jan 2014

i am just saying, at this point, this is still the best method we have before we say things like "X cures Y" or "X causes Y"

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
10. I suspect that the whole system is so utterly rigged these days,
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:03 AM
Jan 2014

that the scientific method will be subverted time and time again until we make a clean sweep of our societal institutions.

There's a huge problem when the referees are deeply corrupt.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
14. you're really going to throw yourself completely in the "ineffectiveness of science in medicine"
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:24 AM
Jan 2014

cohort, eh?

What do you suggest for a clean sweep? A purge of all researchers and orders to the gulag?

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. also i think in the case of Vioxx the scientific process was definitely subverted
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:52 AM
Jan 2014

some researcher falsified efficacy studies

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
19. That's not a problem with the scientific process.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:16 AM
Jan 2014

That's a problem with oversight and scrutiny. The issue is the essentially corrupt nature of the pharmaceuticals approval process and the relative weakness of the FDA, which acts more often in the interests of pharmaceutical companies than those of the public (see for instance the FDA recommendation that Tylenol have a label warning of possible liver damage...in 1978. McNeil's response was "but we'll lose a lot of money if we do that"...so, they didn't, until over 30 years later.)

 

ProgressSaves

(123 posts)
20. That was failure caused by corruption.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:18 AM
Jan 2014

Not science.

The FDA is a hen house watched by way too many foxes.

Taking medicine just because it's approved by the FDA is not advised.

But trying something just because it's not is equally ridiculous.

We need watchdogs with stronger jaws and sharper teeth.

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
9. It was a miracle...
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:02 AM
Jan 2014

Water, fire, air and dirt
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist
Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed.




 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. Mechanic said car computer was my problem
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:06 AM
Jan 2014

$120 advice.

So when it quit again, i thumped the thing hard. Car ran!!

My science inquisitiveness had me checking the computer. Disassembled it. Found a bad contact! 10 cents of solder.

One thing leads to another, unless you have a closed mind.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
17. That's not nearly as cool as how I used to fix my old Sega Genesis and N64.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:12 AM
Jan 2014

I nearly passed out once blowing into a cartridge.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
23. Working at a TV station where most of the equipment is now over 10 years old
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:55 AM
Jan 2014

hitting malfunctioning equipment is the #1 go-to

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
24. But you cured the TV!
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 04:33 AM
Jan 2014

Others on this thread have cured their TVs or have explained how that would cure the TV, and yet you doubt that kicking is an effective treatment?

After reading this thread I'm going to kick my flat panel TV once a week just as a precaution.



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