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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:48 AM Dec 2013

White America, my Cranky Ass.

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/12/31/white-america-my-cranky-ass/
" 2013 was a year of amazing stupidity, and this writer is glad its death is nigh. One of the dumbest things of this dumb year was the notion that White America was under attack (along with Christian America). Never mind that white Christians are in control of American government, business and media, have been for some time, and will continue to do so for many years to come.

Here is some Cranky History: the family has been here since at least 1774. That means we were here when most of the land was being stolen from the original inhabitants. White Americans raping, killing, stealing, and committing genocide against the legitimate owners of this country. And even if my ancestors did not commit any of these atrocities with their own hands, they certainly benefited from them. As all white Americans do to this day.

Some of my ancestors lived in border states during the Civil War, which was when White Americans killed Americans of all colors in order to keep the right to rape, enslave, torture and murder their slaves. And even if my ancestors did not commit any of these atrocities with their own hands, they certainly benefited from them. As all white Americans do to this day.

Today, America is becoming a majority minority nation: that means that White America will become less powerful and eventually have to suck it up and be equal with the others we have been raping, killing and stealing from for all these years. Not superior to them, but equal to them. You know, like the Constitution says.

And speaking as a White American who can lay claim to the dubious honor of being a direct descendant of the original White Americans, that is a very good thing. Because looking at our conduct over the centuries, we really shouldn’t be in charge of much of anything. Unless you LIKE rape, genocide, thievery, murder, torture, and general crimes against humanity.

If you support the idea of White America, you support those crimes. And on behalf of myself and my part-Shawnee spouse (there, friends, is an example of spiritual awesomeness), f*** anybody and everybody who is in favor of White Supremacy, or any other skin-color-based horses*** like that. "


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White America, my Cranky Ass. (Original Post) riqster Dec 2013 OP
Indeed. Laelth Dec 2013 #1
Nice graphic! riqster Dec 2013 #2
Yup. Useful visual tool, I think. Laelth Dec 2013 #3
Just rec'cing this post for exposure. K&R nt TBF Dec 2013 #4
Thanks! riqster Dec 2013 #5
Thank you! Now that needs to go viral. loudsue Dec 2013 #6
so true! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #16
Best luff of the day.... daleanime Dec 2013 #19
My pleasure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #23
k and r niyad Dec 2013 #7
K & R for bluntandcranky! I love that website. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #8
Thank you! riqster Dec 2013 #10
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #9
I give this write up 2 thumbs down! santroy79 Dec 2013 #11
Why? nt DocMac Jan 2014 #39
Totally Agree, We need more of this thinking openfield Dec 2013 #12
Is it really about what color you are? HoosierCowboy Dec 2013 #13
On a macro level, that has validity. riqster Dec 2013 #14
becoming more about class iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #15
I look at it this way HoosierCowboy Dec 2013 #24
that's really a load of racist horsesh*t hfojvt Dec 2013 #17
Look at all the trees.... daleanime Dec 2013 #20
The fact that others also committed atrocities riqster Dec 2013 #28
Way to turn the argument around. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #31
Eminem coverd this topic in like 2002, people should pay better attention snooper2 Dec 2013 #18
Yeah, but his focus was slightly different. riqster Dec 2013 #29
"White Americans raping, killing, stealing, and committing genocide against the legitimate owners jtuck004 Dec 2013 #21
I love the smell billh58 Dec 2013 #22
How very twisted. n/t Drew2510 Dec 2013 #25
No matter what direction you come from, sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #26
Good points. riqster Dec 2013 #30
Happy New Year sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #32
And you! riqster Dec 2013 #33
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #27
K&R But this won't get half as many recs from the crew that actually longs for the Good Old Days Number23 Dec 2013 #34
"Oh no, this won't sit well with them at all." riqster Dec 2013 #35
1774, what took yinz so long pasto76 Dec 2013 #36
What's dumber is being white and thinking you're a victim because people object to your racist crap riqster Jan 2014 #46
Good thoughts, I like them....... BlueJac Dec 2013 #37
K&R! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #38
You put this out here. DocMac Jan 2014 #40
I didn't suggest carrying a burden. riqster Jan 2014 #47
Reminds me of this beauty 7wo7rees Jan 2014 #41
Talk about guilt jmars Jan 2014 #42
What are you talking about? arcane1 Jan 2014 #44
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2014 #45
K&R. nt DLevine Jan 2014 #43
It's interesting that.. RedCappedBandit Jan 2014 #48
Yep. And class and gender as well. riqster Jan 2014 #49

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
6. Thank you! Now that needs to go viral.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:49 AM
Dec 2013

These days, the only way to get a point across is for it to go viral. The right wing media sure as hell won't educate a single soul.

openfield

(30 posts)
12. Totally Agree, We need more of this thinking
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:22 PM
Dec 2013

Whoever wrote this has integrity, and serves as an excellent example to all of white America.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
13. Is it really about what color you are?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:59 PM
Dec 2013

...or is it really about power and it's misuse over human beings? An interesting study was done on the social ordering of a dysfunctional baboon colony in the wilds of Africa that was dominated by Alpha type baboon males.

The Alphas made life hell in the colony, full of violence, rape, and infanticide as the Alphas did their social Darwin thing trying to implant their Alpha genes into the colony's genetic legacy by rape and murder.

Then one day something happened, the Alpha males discovered some raw meat. They consumed it and in typical Alpha male fashion, took all of it for themselves.

Well surprise! That meat was infected with tuberculosis and ALL the Alpha males died. Within hours, the colony returned to a peaceful state of harmony, like the Alphas were never there at all.

There's a message here for the entire human race, and its not about color.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
14. On a macro level, that has validity.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:03 PM
Dec 2013

But the OP specifically addresses this country, and in America, it is about color: and whites are the guilty parties. And some whites like Palin and O'Reilly have the sand to play the victim card.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
15. becoming more about class
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:22 PM
Dec 2013

as the years pass by... or maybe it always has been and 'they' just take any opportunity they can get to turn us on each other... the ole keep 'em distracted while we rob the place routine..

keep times hard.. keep people poor.. and keep them hating each other over traits they cant change and resenting each other over work they don't have (instead of the people denying them work and wealth) .. all of a sudden the world is yours for the plundering.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
24. I look at it this way
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:48 PM
Dec 2013

There is a little Alpha in anyone but the Saints, and it is only the opportunity for power that keeps the vast majority of us from being corrupted.

It is possible to have power and not be corrupted, but as the Romans said of it: "It is holding a jaguar by the ears"

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
17. that's really a load of racist horsesh*t
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:29 PM
Dec 2013

take this, for example

"which was when White Americans killed Americans of all colors in order to keep the right to rape, enslave, torture and murder their slaves"

Because, if memory serves, this is when two of my own white great-great-grandfathers fought and died, (and perhaps killed) along with their brothers and cousins - in order to fucking END slavery.

And this "White Americans raping, killing, stealing, and committing genocide against the legitimate owners of this country."

Yeah, why start with "raping"?

Why?

Probably because it paints white people in an even worse light.

"legitimate owners of this country"

Yeah, if you read history, the US government actually did a lot of purchasing.

You don't see that with a lot of other countries. When Germany defeated France in 1870, they annexed Alsace and Lorraine and they made France pay them. When France defeated Germany in 1918 (with a lot of American and British help) they took Alsace and Lorraine back and made Germany pay.

Yet when the US defeated Mexico and took the Southwest United states, WE paid Mexico.

But that's all white people taking land. Let's look at what Dee Brown wrote in "Bury My heart at Wounded Knee". Think of how the US has tried to pay the "legitimate owners" of South Dakota.

"Although the Sioux were hereditary enemies of the Crows and had
driven them from their rich hunting grounds," (BMH p. 133)

"South of the Kansas-Nebraska buffalo ranges were the Kiowas. Some of the older Kiowas could remember the Black Hills, but the tribe had been pushed southward before the combined power of Sioux, Cheyenne, and Arapaho. By 1860 the Kiowas had made peace with the northern plains tribes and had become allies of the Comanches, whose southern plains they had entered." (BMHWK pp 10-11)


Wait, what is that? The Sioux, apparently STOLE (and perhaps did some killing and even raping in the process) land from the Crows and Kiowas. The "legitimate owners" of South Dakota. And I am guessing that the Sioux never paid a dime.

Oh, and I stumbled across this in my notes.

"In 1692 a Shawnee raid to capture slaves for trade with the English destroyed a major Cherokee village while its warriors were absent on a winter hunt. While both tribes still had common enemies (Iroquois, Catawba, and Chickasaw), this treachery destroyed any trust or friendship that had existed between the Cherokee and Shawnee. The following year a Cherokee delegation visited Charlestown demanding more firearms to fight their enemies. The situation had become so dangerous by 1705 that North Carolina was urging South Carolina to curtail the trade in Native American slaves or face a massive uprising." web http://www.tolatsga.org/Cherokee2.html

Tsk, tsk, tsk. There are those virtuous and holy Native Americans willingly taking part in the slave trade, and attacking a defenseless village and destroying it, probably killing lots of women, children, and elderly in the process.

For shame, and here I thought from this OP, that it was only white people who ever killed and stole.

And as for the genocide, yes there were some people who wanted to kill them all. You know, people like Tecumseh.

"the Prophet's (Tecumseh's brother's) instructions: 'War now. War forever. War upon the living. War upon the dead; dig up their corpses from the grave; our country must give no rest to a white man's bones.' " (TESW p 156)

and Pontiac

"It is important for us, my brothers, that we exterminate from our lands this nation that seeks only to destroy us...." Pontiac 8 May 1763 "Pontiac and his allies kill all of the British soldiers and settlers they could find outside the fort, including women and children." (Dixon)

However, in spite of the huge numbers of Native Americans who died from disease and in various conflicts (and many who were starved or slaughtered) the number of people in the United States who claim Indian ancestry is probably now greater than the original Indian population of the United States.

I say probably, because all we have are various estimates but two books I have read. One of them says this "The 1982 census recorded 1,364,033 Native Americans, 42,162 Eskimos, and 14,205 Aleuts. Those claiming to be at least part Indian numbered over 5 million." (Indians p 383) And the following book, estimates the original population at about 5-6 million. "American Indian Holocaust and Survival, a population history since 1492"
by Russell Thornton 1987 University of Oklahoma press

In fact, the graph on page xvii of that book shows a population of 5 million in 1492 which had dropped to 3 million by 1600 and below 2 million in 1700 and below 1 million by 1750. If that graph is accurate, then over 80% of the deaths happened BEFORE 1750.

You know, before many of our ancestors were even here.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
28. The fact that others also committed atrocities
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:15 PM
Dec 2013

...does NOT absolve white Americans of their sins.

And the point of the article was that white people like Palin and her ilk are claiming to be victims...which is truly epic bullshit. Members of a privileged class are. Not convincing when they try to play that card.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
31. Way to turn the argument around.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

The blog post is about post-contact America, not pre-contact America.

And you missed the point of the blog post. The author is talking about how the majority in power, the white Christians, are claiming they're being oppressed when they're not.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
21. "White Americans raping, killing, stealing, and committing genocide against the legitimate owners
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

of this country"

And cannibalism. They always leave out the cannibalism, as if it was worse than all the other stuff

Funny people, us.

And, ot may be some time longer than the author thinks before we see equal, though, because it's in the mind, not just the numbers. People of color have just as much of a problem with that one as white folk do - just ask Malcom X or Harriet Tubman. (I know, but you get the idea). That is much harder to change.

Now, off to breakfast. Cereal.

Thank you for posting that. It's some good thoughts.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
26. No matter what direction you come from,
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:10 PM
Dec 2013

sooner or later, everything comes down to race in America. Never mind that the overwhelming majority of whites and minorities are Christians, or that most Christians are not racists or white supremacists, or that the overwhelming majority of poor people are white. Someone always wants to divide and conquer the common people using race. That makes perfect sense to me as a tactic employed by the rich to control everyone else, but for ordinary people to do the rich man's work for him is sad. At the turn of the next century, the white population will still be 41%, which will be more than twice the size of any other group. Since neither whites nor non-whites comprise homogeneous cultural or ethnic groups in the US, it might be a better idea to define America and American history more in terms of class than race. The former is a socio-economic reality. The latter is a biological myth.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
30. Good points.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:21 PM
Dec 2013

I try to say "skin color" or such instead of "race" whenever possible. As you suggest , "race" is a bullshit bit of fiction: there is only one human race.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
34. K&R But this won't get half as many recs from the crew that actually longs for the Good Old Days
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 08:18 PM
Dec 2013

and takes every damn opportunity presented to pine openly and loudly for them.

that means that White America will become less powerful and eventually have to suck it up and be equal with the others we have been raping, killing and stealing from for all these years. Not superior to them, but equal to them. You know, like the Constitution says.

Oh no, this won't sit well with them at all.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
36. 1774, what took yinz so long
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:20 PM
Dec 2013

mine were here in 1683. few things as dumb as thinking you are special because you were born white.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
46. What's dumber is being white and thinking you're a victim because people object to your racist crap
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jan 2014

...like Phil Robertson, etc.

DocMac

(1,628 posts)
40. You put this out here.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:36 AM
Jan 2014

What do you suggest, hanging all white people now? Don't pretend that we white people didn't fight for equal rights.

People all over the world have killed their own people and people not like them. I just don't like where this is going.

I'm not going to stop living and helping while holding a burden you think I should.


Doc

riqster

(13,986 posts)
47. I didn't suggest carrying a burden.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jan 2014

I did say that we honkies don't have much to bitch about, compared with the populations our ancestors abused. And that when we claim to be victims, we look pretty damned idiotic.

 

jmars

(3 posts)
42. Talk about guilt
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:13 AM
Jan 2014

I can't imagine walking around with that much guilt (after admitingly doing none of those things supposedly done by white Amwricans). You must be a barrel of laughs at parties.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
48. It's interesting that..
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:31 PM
Jan 2014

even on DU, we have people trying to downplay the significance of race in American history.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
49. Yep. And class and gender as well.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:37 PM
Jan 2014

Denial takes many forms. Like you said, it does seem odd to find it here.

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