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Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:39 PM

ok finally duck dynasty childbride comments hit msm

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-ae-walking-a-fine-line-over-duck-dynastys-phil-robertson/

There’s a new controversy surrounding "Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson as a video made four years ago surfaced showing the show’s patriarch talking about the merits of marrying teenage girls.In the video, Robertson says “Look, you wait till they get to be 20 years old - the only picking that’s gonna take place is your pocket. You gotta marry these girls when they’re about 15 or 16.”

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Reply ok finally duck dynasty childbride comments hit msm (Original post)
arely staircase Dec 2013 OP
Scuba Dec 2013 #1
arely staircase Dec 2013 #2
Scuba Dec 2013 #5
arely staircase Dec 2013 #6
Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #3
arely staircase Dec 2013 #4
bluestate10 Dec 2013 #8
Cha Dec 2013 #10
Coyotl Dec 2013 #9
arely staircase Dec 2013 #13
Tanuki Dec 2013 #7
XRubicon Dec 2013 #11
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #12
arely staircase Dec 2013 #19
MattBaggins Dec 2013 #26
alato Dec 2013 #31
ljm2002 Dec 2013 #36
theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #39
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #46
MO_Moderate Dec 2013 #45
RandySF Dec 2013 #14
SoCalDem Dec 2013 #16
delrem Dec 2013 #25
spanone Dec 2013 #15
Brigid Dec 2013 #17
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #20
arely staircase Dec 2013 #21
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #22
arely staircase Dec 2013 #24
alato Dec 2013 #33
Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #41
MattBaggins Dec 2013 #27
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #29
JI7 Dec 2013 #32
marew Dec 2013 #38
DeSwiss Dec 2013 #28
pokerfan Dec 2013 #18
HoosierCowboy Dec 2013 #23
madville Dec 2013 #30
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #34
XRubicon Dec 2013 #40
Rhythm Dec 2013 #35
marew Dec 2013 #37
arely staircase Dec 2013 #42
arely staircase Dec 2013 #43
arely staircase Dec 2013 #44
Tx4obama Dec 2013 #47
arely staircase Dec 2013 #48

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:41 PM

1. Already? I read it here only 4-5 days ago.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:43 PM

2. from an msm source or a progressive blog?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:54 PM

5. Likely the latter, though I don't recall.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:56 PM

6. this is the first msm story I have seen nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:48 PM

3. Why do we even care what this guy says?

 

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:52 PM

4. you don't have to

But for me it was the rw circling the wagons over his homophobia while dismissing his racism. Now I want to see their reaction to his support for taking child brides.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:04 PM

8. The right will use it favorite fall back, the liberal media is out to get Robertson and is digging

up stuff. Regardless of how accurate the information is, the rightwing will try to discredit it by lying about the media.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:10 PM

10. YOu're absolutely right to point it out, arely.. and to let us

know that it's hit corporatemediawhoreville.

As you say.. all those defending philduck's hatin' on Gays and the racist bullshit.. let's see how they feel about pedophilia.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:05 PM

9. Because there are 15 year old girls in the world, some of them are our daughters, and

 

sisters, nieces, friends, neighbors. And, some of them are mothers!

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:37 PM

13. exactly

Because, you know, girls.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:00 PM

7. Miss Kay's early marriage to Phil Robertson made her so miserable that she contemplated suicide.

He is well aware of this. Why would he wish similar misery on anyone? Oh, yeah, so he doesn't have to do the up close and dirty work of cleaning the ducks he kills.

http://starcasm.net/archives/243461

..."Duck Dynasty family matriarch Kay Robertson spoke at the “Night of Ducks and Hucks” fundraising event in Monroe, North Carolina Saturday. Miss Kay talked candidly about the well-publicized dark period she endured with husband Phil during the early days of their marriage, going as far as to explain how her oldest son Alan, at the tender age of just 10, convinced her not to take her own life.

As Phil discussed in his book “Happy, Happy, Happy,” he was a man more interested in killing ducks and getting his next drink than he was at being a husband or father. He left Kay alone to raise Alan, Jase and Willie (Jep wasn’t born yet) as he fell deeper and deeper into alcoholism."...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:34 PM

11. knr nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:36 PM

12. He said the same thing to his grandson on one of the TV episodes...


... when they were cleaning frogs.

He is NOT saying 'old men' should marry young girls - he is referring to young guys finding their high school sweetheart to marry as opposed to waiting until later in life when 'some' gals marry for money.

I think 'this issue' is being taken out of context and is being over blown.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:56 PM

19. he is saying girls make better wives because they

are more easily dominated. The context is clear.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:48 AM

26. Not being blown out of proportion at all

not in the least

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:20 AM

31. he says by the age of twenty..

 

..."the only picking that’s gonna take place is your pocket".


sorry for paraphrasing...it's getting late lol

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:08 AM

36. Seriously?

You're defending a man who says men should marry 15-year-old girls rather than waiting until they're (gasp) 20, and the reason is that by the time they're 20 all they want to do is "pick your pockets"?

So I guess he'd tell the girls in his family -- if there were any -- that they should marry boys of 15, rather than waiting until they're 20, because by the time they're 20 "they're only after one thing". Right? (of course not -- it's only girls who need to be plucked when young, so they can be controlled)

YOU'RE DEFENDING THIS SHIT?

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:29 AM

39. Wille Robertson said he married his bride when she was 17...

... and felt like he had adopted her. I suppose he meant that as a joke but I found it creepy.

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Response to theHandpuppet (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:25 PM

46. They met when they were in third grade. They married 1 year after graduating high school


That is NOT creepy.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:53 PM

45. Indeed

 

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:37 PM

14. It's making its way up the online food chain as well.

From Slate:

Culture warriors on the right spent the bulk of the holiday season establishing Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty as a martyr because the millionaire was suspended from his television show after making grossly homophobic and racist statements to a GQ reporter. The strategy worked, and A&E reinstalled Robertson to his apparently First Amendment–guaranteed spot on reality TV, which in turn sent liberal bloggers back to YouTube to find more incidents of Robertson saying terrible things about the nonwhite, nonmale, nonstraight portions of the population.

The hunt didn't take long. This weekend bloggers turned up a video from 2009 in which Robertson advises marrying underage girls because they are easier to dominate than those who've graduated high school.

In the video, a Sportsmen's Ministry talk, Robertson laments that good women are hard to find, saying, "Mainly because these boys are waiting until they get to be about 20 years old before they marry 'em. Look, you wait until they get to be 20 years old, the only picking that's going to take place is your pocket."

His advice for a happy marriage is to make like R. Kelly and hang out in high-school parking lots. "You got to marry these girls when they are about 15 or 16. They'll pick your ducks." (No, "pick your ducks" is not sexual innuendo—Robertson is talking about cleaning the feathers off of dead birds, a miserable task often left to women to perform.) "You need to check with mom and dad about that of course," sage Robertson wisely advises, but he does not explain how to convince the parents of teenage girls to let them marry grown men who are tired of cleaning their own dead birds.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/12/30/phil_robertson_on_marriage_duck_dynasty_star_advised_men_to_find_15_year.html

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Response to RandySF (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:52 PM

16. girls are always property in low-life societies/repressive-religious societies

They are happy to have girls when they are little because they help around the house & help care for the younger ones, BUT when they hit puberty, it changes.. they become an "attractive nuisance...like a swimming pool.....nice to have around but dangerous too, because they could get pregnant and their child then becomes YOUR responsibility, so of course then they must be bartered off & out of the house ASAP..they are someone else's "problem" then.

The sad thing is that in later life it's not the sons who end up being caretakers of callous parents...it's usually the daughters..

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Response to RandySF (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:43 AM

25. I don't mind when the unacceptable is shown to be what it is.

Consider:
"A&E, is an American cable and satellite television channel that serves as the flagship television property of A+E Networks, a joint venture between the Hearst Corporation and Disney–ABC Television Group"

That isn't FOX.

I think it helps to show who *all* these MSM corporations are pandering to, and how low they go.

Not that I think "Leave it to Beaver" is a model to return to.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:42 PM

15. k&r...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:54 PM

17. OK, teenage girls can be flaky . . .

But I find it hard to imagine one pleading with her parents to let her marry some scraggly old man. Very few scraggly old men are rich, and surely the girls know that for them such a marriage most likely means living in poverty in some Godforsaken shithole, cooking and changing diapers all day. There really are worse things than death.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:01 AM

20. His advice was for BOYS not scraggly old men. This issue is being taken out of context. n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:04 AM

21. context is clear

Marry a girl not a woman and she will do you bidding.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:07 AM

22. That is bull. My aunt got married when she was 14 almost 15, she dominated my uncle her whole life


Many folks that have stayed married 50, 60, 70 years married at a young age.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:31 AM

24. and that was when?

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:35 AM

33. all of my grandparents were married young

 

my great-grandparents even younger.

my parents married at 19 & 20.

They're all married happily or died that way.

Now half of each sex under 40 are uninterested in starting families.

http://bit.ly/1irfUhL

sorry for the pew poll

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Response to alato (Reply #33)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 08:59 AM

41. My great grandparents were in the 1800's. Married as adults. In the 1800's.

 

And of course Phil Duck says your parents, or actually your Mother was too old. Get them at 15 is what he's saying, not 20. In 2013.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:53 AM

27. Because they are more easily manipulated he thinks

Dude do yourself a favor and stop defending this PoS

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:57 AM

29. I am not a 'dude'. And I support young folks that wish to marry. The law...


The law that states you have to be 18 to marry without the consent of a parent should be changed.

My mother's refusal to sign papers to allow me to marry when I was young ruined my life many decades ago.



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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:23 AM

32. how old were you when you wanted to get married and how did it ruin your life ?

couldn't you have just waited until you were 18 ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #32)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:01 AM

38. Exacty! That's just plain nonsense! n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:54 AM

28. BOYS?

 

- So are you saying the context is that it's BOYS who should marry 15-16 year old girls? Is that a better context?

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:55 PM

18. On Mediaite now

Funny how we heard about this a week ago...

Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson has just managed to avoid a suspension over his controversial remarks to GQ magazine, but a video from 2009 could cause another headache for the Duck Commander patriarch. In a speech to a 2009 gathering of the Sportsmen’s Ministry, Robertson offered marriage advice to the men in the crowd, which included standard yesteryear fare like finding a woman who can cook, but which also included a clear instruction to marry 15-year-old girls, or, alternately, 16-year-olds.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/video-duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-advises-ministry-crowd-to-marry-girls-at-15-or-16-years-old/

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:22 AM

23. Matthew 15:11

From ol Phils' favorite Good Book:
"what goeth into a man defileth him not, but what comes out of him"

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:03 AM

30. Just had to look it up

16 is legal marrying age in Louisiana, with parental permission. 15 is legal if a judge signs off on it.

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Response to madville (Reply #30)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:44 AM

34. A female 13 years old in New Hampshire can marry with parental consent

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 08:11 AM

40. 13 for girls and 14 for boys

"A female between the age of 13 and 17 years and a male between the age of 14 and 17 years can be married only with the permission of their parent (guardian) and a waiver (See Waiver).A female below the age of 13 and a male below the age of 14 are not allowed to marry under any conditions."

New Hampshire...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:00 AM

35. Yeah, you've gotta catch them before they have a mind of their own or anything (/sarcasm)

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:58 AM

37. Wow!

My dad, one of the most intelligent people I have ever met, encouraged me to get my education, that no matter who I married, I had to be able to take care of myself because husbands' die, husbands' leave, etc. I married at 22- half way through a grad school fellowship. My family has always been better for it and I was able to retire in my mid-50's (10 years ago) because of my dad's superb advice. I will forever be grateful to my father. (I now do volunteer work I love twice a week. I have also taken in several strays and have a very sweet handicapped dog I must care for several times a day. And soon I will be taking the training to be a critter foster mom.)
A good person, a caring spouse, wants everyone to be the best they can be. To purposefully create dependency by marrying a young teenage girl is just plain sick!
People really defend this guy?!? Disgusting! He cares for no one but himself!

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Response to marew (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:06 PM

42. exactly

His whole point was that a young girl will be more subservient than a woman.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:33 PM

47. Excerpt from your link


-snip-

Robertson can be seen offering what he calls “river rat counseling” to the group, and then goes on to suggest that “you got to marry these girls when they are about 15 or 16.” After suggesting that a younger woman will “pluck your ducks,” he adds, “Look, you wait 'til they get to be 20 years old, the only picking that's going to take place is your pocket," he says.

The riff is similar to one he relates in his book, “Happy, Happy, Happy: My life and legacy as the Duck Commander,” where Robertson writes that a teen bride would “pluck your ducks” while a 20-year-old “would only pick your pockets.” Robertson adds in his book, "Now, that's a joke, and a lot of people seem to laugh at it, but there is a certain amount of truth in it."

In the video, Robertson couches his advice to marry ‘em early by saying, “You need to check with mom and dad about that, of course.” Indeed, most states allow 16-year-olds to marry as long as parents consent and attend the ceremony. Some US states allow teens under 16 to marry, but only if a judge OKs the nuptials. Some states allow a pregnant teenager to wed without mom and dad’s blessings.

-snip-


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #47)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:59 PM

48. so he is joking about the duck plucking but not the taking of childbrides

Hence his advice to get parental permission

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