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Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:10 PM

 

6,035,027 via Obamacare and climbing

http://acasignups.net/

2,025,432 Private Plans
4,009,595 Medicaid



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Reply 6,035,027 via Obamacare and climbing (Original post)
SHRED Dec 2013 OP
BlueStreak Dec 2013 #1
Joel thakkar Dec 2013 #4
BlueStreak Dec 2013 #13
Joel thakkar Dec 2013 #17
tridim Dec 2013 #2
ProSense Dec 2013 #3
napkinz Dec 2013 #5
EC Dec 2013 #6
napkinz Dec 2013 #7
Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #8
napkinz Dec 2013 #9
RoccoR5955 Dec 2013 #11
CatWoman Dec 2013 #23
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #10
WillowTree Dec 2013 #18
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #22
WillowTree Dec 2013 #24
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #25
Blanks Dec 2013 #30
Orrex Dec 2013 #12
grantcart Dec 2013 #14
napkinz Dec 2013 #15
JNinWB Dec 2013 #16
Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #19
Control-Z Dec 2013 #27
Zorra Dec 2013 #20
Cha Dec 2013 #21
NBachers Dec 2013 #28
davidpdx Dec 2013 #26
Kablooie Dec 2013 #29

Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:36 PM

1. We are only a million short of the original goal for 2014, with 3 months left

 

in the open enrollment period.

We will easily exceed the goal. In what universe is greatly exceeding the goal considered a failure of any kind?

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:40 PM

4. I thought

that we need 7 million only from private signups..

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Response to Joel thakkar (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:44 PM

13. I don't know. The spreadsheet says

 

"The 7 million private enrollment figure was a projection by the CBO about how many people they *expected* to enroll by 3/31/14, not an actual "success threshold". However, this number has been inextricably baked into the public consciousness as the "bar for success" so that's what's being used as a "target" number."

If that were the expectation for only the private enrollments, that means the expectation for total enrollments would have been over 30 million, which doesn't make sense.

If there are 50 million uninsured, the most that could possibly be enrolled would be under 40 million because of all the red states that are not expanding Medicare. It looks like the total enrollments will be over 10 million, which seems pretty good for the first year, considering that doesn't include people who were allowed to continue purchasing pre-ACA policies.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:18 PM

17. Thanks for clearing it up

10M sounds good...i hope media starts some good coverage for obamacare success stories and we all eventually go towards single payer.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:56 PM

2. I guess that's why David Gregory kept saying 1.5 million have signed up.

Thank you "news".

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:15 PM

3. Brainwrap

has a post up a Daily Kos.

ACASignups.net 2.0! Prv. Enrollments top 2M, Total tops 6M & More!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/29/1265876/-ACASignups-net-2-0-Prv-Enrollments-top-2M-Total-tops-6M-More

More bad news for Republicans.

GOP ‘confronting a new reality’ on healthcare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024235936

Georgia GOP operative calls Republican elected officials liars on Obamacare
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/22/1264681/-Georgia-GOP-calls-Republican-elected-officials-liars-on-Obamacare

Merry Christmas, and thanks to all Democrats who stood by and supported the health care law.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024227754

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:43 PM

5. ACA will be President Obama's Apollo 13; The GOP is America's Katrina ..












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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:43 PM

6. I got mine.

Anthem/BlueCross/BlueShield....sure is better then the crummy Golden Rule junk insurance I had before and costs less. Lower deductables, way better co-insurance - just a much better plan. I love Obama he finally did what I have been waiting for, for near 20 years.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:45 PM

8. Benghazi!

 

It will soon be time for Faux News to switch gears.

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Response to Lifelong Dem (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:48 PM

9. yep!









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Response to napkinz (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:30 PM

11. Maybe the guy in your picture

 

Is in extreme muscle pain, after all isn't Benghazi for bad aches and muscle pains?

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Response to napkinz (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:12 AM

23. LOL

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:21 PM

10. The media was claiming the fact that people were getting Medicaid was a FAILURE...

 

Because people getting sick is supposed to be all about cashing in.

This country has warped values.

Say a doctor sets up practice in a sleepy town where everyone is healthy. He scrapes by on an average living mending the occasional broken bone from a fall.

Under a Capitalistic model, that doctor would poison the well of the town and make everyone pay for expensive tests and a select very rich few would be given the antidote and the trouble making Liberal types would be blamed for the illness.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:20 PM

18. That's not the reason why the Medicaid number is not particularly good news for the program.

It's certainly good news for the new Medicaid enrollees and we can all be happy for them.

But the numbers quoted in the OP aren't real good for Obamacare as a whole. What those numbers tell us is that two-thirds of the new enrollees aren't paying into the system when what we need is for there to be approximately 7 million enrolling in the market plans, and approximately 40% of those younger, healthier people, and paying into the system in order to support the coverage for those who are older or sicker.......and poorer and on Medicaid.

That's why most of the news sources are touting today that enrollment has "topped 1 million" and statements of the kind. It's the numbers enrolling in private plans that count toward the 7 million goal. Can they make it there by the end of March? We can hope, but only time will tell.

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Response to WillowTree (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:21 AM

22. Assuming the GOAL is for this to make money instead of providing health care.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:22 AM

24. The GOAL is to generate sufficient premiums to PAY for health care.

Medicaid accounts aren't going to do that. There have to be enough people paying INTO the system to cover the expenses of those who cannot pay. I'm always surprised that that's so difficult for some people to understand.

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Response to WillowTree (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:46 AM

25. If the private plans don't pan out than the government will just have to go single payer.

 

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Response to WillowTree (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:11 AM

30. I'm pretty sure the goal is to have healthier Americans...

The larger issue becomes who is responsible for the people getting sick. If people can't go to the doctor and they're being poisoned by sulfur from coal mines or developing cancer from their diet we can't prove that's what's going on.

In the current system we'll never know. If you look at Kentucky signing up all of those poor people in coal mining country, it won't be hard to make the correlation between health hazards and mining practices (if they exist).

It will cost the folks who are trying to gut the EPA some serious money in the form of cleaning up their operations and the whole thing can be paid for by the polluters since it can be easily demonstrated by the available data.

Fines for polluting and class action suits will generate plenty of money. The Medicaid expansion is probably the best part of Obamacare for the country.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:43 PM

12. Two days ago, NPR predicted that the ACA website would fail to meet this goal

would fail to meet this goal by the end of March.

Now what are they going to talk about?

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:03 PM

14. got my card yesterday.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:07 PM

15. posted by ProSense

Spread the headlines to piss Republicans off:

Federal Obamacare Enrollments Soar Past One Million Mark Through Christmas Eve

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/29/3106501/obamacare-enrollments-soar-past-million-mark/

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024246463#post1





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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:18 PM

16. How many under 26 year olds have been added to family policies?

Surely, this number should be included in the totals.

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Response to JNinWB (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:04 PM

19. ~3.5 million...and I agree

 

Those people should be included in the total.

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Response to JNinWB (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:28 AM

27. I've got two kids

on our new policy.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:41 PM

20. I have a totally awesome amazing insurance policy thanks to ~ *OBAMACARE* ~!!!

And I am grinding my unbelievably great ~OBAMACARE~ insurance policy into the angry, drooling, slackjawed faces of every republican I can, every chance I can. I am not being a gracious winner at all.

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Response to Zorra (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:26 PM

21. Great on you, Zorra.. I remember

when you were having probs. I'm so glad you got it!

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Response to Zorra (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:58 AM

28. Don't be a gracious winner- be a gloating, obnoxious, in-their-face spike the ball winner!

Strut and swagger your Obamacare victory as only Zorra can!

Fry their circuits! ObamacareObamacareObamacareObamacare

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:15 AM

26. Glad to hear this

Having it top 6 mil before the end of the year is a BFD. I would bet on 10 mil by 3/31/14.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:31 AM

29. What do you bet the Republicans start taking credit for this soon?

In the next few months we'll start hearing on Fox how it was a Republican plan that the Democrats derided in the past.

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