Lol, George Zimmerman's artwork looks familiar
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Over a decade ago we purchased this image from PhotoDisc (now Getty Images) for about $20...
And used it on the T-shirts we gave to DU donors...
But if you zoom in a bit...
And give it a little photoshop magic...
Apparently it's now worth around $100,000!
EDITED TO ADD: just noticed that this seems to be getting a lot of attention so I wanted to add that it was Skinner who spotted the similarity between the images in the office this morning, I then put the post together. Credit where credit's due!
Why that little fuckster!
I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched on that auction.
Those low feedback bidders? That's GZ, or his buddies, driving up the bidding with dummy accounts.
It might sell for over $100k, but that doesn't mean that he will get the money.
Is if eBay charges him a percentage of the final price AND forces him to pay that fee, regardless of who "wins" the auction or whether or not GZ actually got paid.
Oh, and then bans him from eBay due to his false bids. That's important, too.
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.... but y'know Jasper Johns did flags and stenciled letters (in a much more interesting way) back in the '50's.
But I suppose ol' Quick Draw Georgie hasn't a clue who Jasper Johns is.
After all, he did provide us with his original words of wisdom and inspiration!
Poetic gold !
I wonder if he's monitoring those? It might be fun to send a link to this thread
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Dude who shot a black kid in cold blood, in a place full of black men...how long would he last?
AKA: Protective Custody.
He would NEVER get tossed into General Population.
If they sent him to a lockup with a lot of African-American or Hispanic guards...
"I told you to put him in PC, he somehow got put in General, and he fell down a flight of stairs thirty-eight times last night."
'You know, I THOUGHT there were a hell of a lot of people in PC. He's okay, isn't he?'
"He has a hundred and twenty broken bones."
'Oh, then he'll be fine.'
They get it with this paint by the numbers piece of junk. He needs to sell kisses on the rear for $20.
Just couldn't quite put my finger on it.
You are now chatting with Peter.
Peter: Hello! How can I help you today?
NYC_SKP: George Zimmerman is selling a painting based on a protected work from your site. Here is the sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111239922810
And here is the protected work you represent and offer for use: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/american-flag-stars-and-stripes-royalty-free-image/171580891
NYC_SKP: I think it may be a violation of copyright.
NYC_SKP: More about that here:
Peter: yikes - we'll take a look
Peter: thanks for sending
NYC_SKP: Thanks very much, and have a good day!
$100,000? Seriously? And if you read the comments they are along the lines of "We love you, and we stand behind you"..
I sent him a couple questions, ranging from mocking to very polite and he hasn't put them up for viewing. Also, if you click on a bidder, most of them that is all they have bid on, leading me to suspect either zimmy is bidding via another account hoping to drive up the price, or people are making false accounts to bid with and never pay. Unfortunately, Hugh Moran (my fake account) can not bid unless he enters a credit card number or I would be messing with it also.
there are 3 names who keep raising the bid against themselves.. This is a scam. You have to wonder about these right wingers who do nothing but bitch about "lazy takers" while looking for a free ride.. Reminds me of that idiot who did the ACORN video. James something or other, spends his days whining about liberal freeloaders while running a website begging for money from conservatives to make his "movies"...
And if the auction is not determined to be fraudulent, will eBay go after zimmy for their fees? I sure hope so!
And with no hands, ma.
Is it huge really? Like Picaso kind of huge? The site that found out about it paid like $20 for the image and prints it all over coffee cups and tee shirts to give away to its donators. I don't know what George did ... Nor does anyone on here really ... Did he print it out and paint over it? Did he hand paint it by hand and eye. Did he print out just the outline or grey scale of it and paint over that? Then he added some kind of stenciled lettering.
A lot of people will send a cease-and-desist letter before moving to sue, but it's not required.
George isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he?
I wonder if it will make it to the news, just so people are careful before they buy any 'original' works from him?
Oh, and Lawrence O'Donnell and Ed Schultz.
Can't wait for all the pundits and comedians to crown his fraudulence.
Not doubt a violation. He took the image, had it solarized which allowed him to translated into the monochromatic blue tones. He may even have had the image copied onto canvas and painted over the copy. Hope this goes viral.
Exposing this guy as a hack is a just reward, though.
You'd be surprised some of the copyright suits that have been filed and won, on images that are much, much less alike than his. He is in violation of the copyright on this, no doubt about it.
Problem is, they never DO anything.
I went a step beyond live chat and contacted a friend who used to work in the eBay security offices in Utah, to let them know about a flagrant shill bidder. It was someone I knew personally, so it wasn't a suspicion - I knew exactly which accounts were being used to shill bid. If you looked at those accounts, it would show 100% activity with this one seller only, in categories ranging from Barbie dolls to currency to records, you name it, and that 100% specific to one seller activity went back for years on each shill account. Even at that personal versus call-center-in-outer-Bangalore level, their interests lay solely in the direction of making more money off of that seller having auctions (and if he shill bid them up, eBay made even more money). Ebay has recently cloaked the handles of bidders (look at the bid history on this auction and you'll see), and eliminated the click-on-the-bidder option, to make it even more impossible to detect/report shill bidders. Ebay, in short, simply doesn't care. And they're constantly tweaking their site so they can employ the zero punishment policies that keep lining their pockets, while allowing them to eliminate departments that exist only in name, like "security".
This auction is no exception, as all eBay cares about is getting their cut of whatever ludicrous sum this thing ends up fetching.
The only way eBay would pretend to care otherwise would be if the media embarrassed them enough. But don't waste your time thinking eBay's "customer service" or even "security department" gives a chit.
If people steal content, they lose money.
I think they're interested.
They are profiting from fraud, after all.
Doesn't it say Royalty Free for that image? What am I missing?
Release information: No release, but this image does not require a release. This image is available for commercial use.
Maybe I don't totally understand this. There is also royalty free pricing for different sizes of the image. Maybe he paid for an image like you guys did?
In photography and the illustration industry, it refers to a copyright license where the user has the right to use the picture without many restrictions based on one-time payment to the licensor. The user can therefore use the image in several projects without having to purchase any additional licenses. RF licenses can not be given on an exclusive basis. In stock photography, RF is one of the common licenses sometimes contrasted with Rights Managed licenses and often employed in subscription-based or microstock photography business models.
Copyright is a form of intellectual property (as patents, trademarks and trade secrets are), applicable to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete. It is often shared, then percentage holders are commonly called rightsholders: legally, contractually and in associated "rights" business functions. Generally rightsholders have "the right to copy", but also the right to be credited for the work, to determine who may adapt the work to other forms, who may perform the work, who may financially benefit from it, and other related rights.
Copyright initially was conceived as a way for government to restrict printing; the contemporary intent of copyright is to promote the creation of new works by giving authors control of and profit from them. Copyrights are said to be territorial, which means that they do not extend beyond the territory of a specific state unless that state is a party to an international agreement. Today, however, this is less relevant since most countries are parties to at least one such agreement. While many aspects of national copyright laws have been standardized through international copyright agreements, copyright laws of most countries have some unique features. Typically, the duration of copyright is the whole life of the creator plus fifty to a hundred years from the creator's death, or a finite period for anonymous or corporate creations. Some jurisdictions have required formalities to establishing copyright, but most recognize copyright in any completed work, without formal registration. Generally, copyright is enforced as a civil matter, though some jurisdictions do apply criminal sanctions.
Most jurisdictions recognize copyright limitations, allowing "fair" exceptions to the creator's exclusivity of copyright, and giving users certain rights. The development of digital media and computer network technologies have prompted reinterpretation of these exceptions, introduced new difficulties in enforcing copyright, and inspired additional challenges to copyright law's philosophic basis. Simultaneously, businesses with great economic dependence upon copyright have advocated the extension and expansion of their intellectual property rights, and sought additional legal and technological enforcement.
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Seems quite proud of his hand painted artwork.
he is acting as if he actually painted this...lol this guy is a scam artist. No job so he is scamming people, and what makes him think its even worth that kind of money. But his minions no matter what will buy it
"I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ"
Like he's a real artist with "visions." What a blithering idiot.
My vision of Georgie has him in a prison. And, quite frankly? I think that vision is going to prove to be reality sooner, if not later.
I sent a question asking if it was paint-by-numbers, but he didn't respond or post it.
is up, why he'd leave it up without at least altering the description. He's either really, really sure he's invincible and nothing will come of this, or he's just completely stupid.
In this case, I think the "painting" is really inkjet on canvas. A legitimate way to sell art to be sure, but especially appropriate when your "art" is a downloaded stock photo you turned blue and typed words on.
For a small circle in Central Florida, it is an acceptable way of life.
On the bid history numbers on that page, when it shows the bids, EB asks what you think and you can comment there.
I did ask him a question, but he won't answer me. "How much for two day shipping to Canada ... and will I get into trouble with customs because it's a stolen image?"
You can't sell copyrighted material there. Tee hee. Thanks, I needed this laugh.
I said something like: "Hi George, I doubt Manuela Krause who is selling this image on Getty Images, would appreciate you stealing her work and calling it your own. Tell us George, what is it like being a pathological liar?"
I hope it shows up on the Ebay page like this one did:
A: Thanks for your question, The paint was donated to me by a great friend (J.S.), as far as I know it is regular household latex paint. I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ
but you do know that your question will anger him and he will get pulled over by the police.
i bet he won't answr. again
I reported him to Ebay. I know that I am not allowed to use a photo if it has a copyright so shouldn't this be against the law and Ebay rules?
Brought the graphics into two layers in Photoshop, changed the opacity on the GZ "original", and it appears to be nothing more than a manipulated copy.
His image distorts and skews elements of the original. However, the nuances of the curves, furls, and objects (stars, stripes) are way too similar to be coincidental.
I'm speechless that this con man has admirers, supporters, and well-wishers. It's sick.
How is it possible to transfer the image to canvas?
But I'm betting even that is too sophisticated for him.
He probably just went to Wal-Mart and had the completed "artwork" printed on canvas.
I felt it was similar to a paint by numbers. Essentially, not an authentic original project....now my suspicious are confirmed.
...I would manipulate the original in Photoshop to create the final blobby painted effect, to use as the pattern. I'd distort and skew some of the elements, to change it from "exact copy" to "original" (to the untrained eye).
There are a number of ways to project an image of the "original" onto a wall/canvas (projector, "lightbox" mentioned by somebody else here, 35mm slide and projector). You would then just paint away...and take great care NOT to stay within the exact lines of the projected image.
I'm no expert, but I've been working with graphics for 14 years; I could easily modify a photo to look like GZ's "original".
Walmart can also transfer it to canvas. I would imagine that's the route he's taken. Thanks for responding.
Those photo transfers-to-canvas do not use latex paint. If he painted over said transfer, that would be a huge and amateurish mistake for a professional con man.
I'm betting he used a projection of some kind.
In this case, the unbelievably huge and amateurish mistake he's made is stealing the image in the first place. It was completely unnecessary. He could have taken a cheapo digital camera out and taken a bunch of pictures of flags flapping in the wind until he got a picture similar to that one. Even with no photography skills, if you take enough pictures you'll get a good one from time to time, just by sheer chance. Then it would be his own and he could modify it any way he wished and sell it legitimately. He stole the picture because he was too lazy to go out and get one of his own.
long enough to go to an art supply shop and pick up some oils or acrylics. (but he had a canvass, just no paint).
"Q: What is the medium; oil or acrylic? Thanks Dec-17-13
A: Thanks for your question, The paint was donated to me by a great friend (J.S.), as far as I know it is regular household latex paint. I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ "
His fan club is dimmer than he is, that's all.
I'm thinking this is likely to be some kind of half-witted publicity or money-laundering scheme.
"Where'd you get the money George?"
"Ummmm... Duhs... I sold a painting on eBay. See?"
Next he'll be selling toasters on ebay, posting an image of his naked self reflected in them...
Or a sex tape will be "found."
The world is more depraved than I thought if this murdering fool ever ends up with a reality television show.
He ought to be in prison.
Then again, so should George W. Bush.
...quit George, especially this thread.
Somebody rightly pointed out his choice of lettering, a serif font.
A SERIF FONT! GZ is a human typewriter.
It's a royalty-free photo he used, so he can do with it what he wishes...but he can't claim ownership. I imagine he worded his ebay message just well enough to skirt the copyright issue. Probably sought an attorney's advice.
They get away with a lot worse around here. State Attorney's office and even the FBI just let it happen and do nothing. So the con jobs continue because everyone knows that no one is coming after them.
But it looks like George got sloppy by going national.
he likely hid all the money he got from that old "defense fund" and put it in a foreign bank. He told the court he was broke and he hasn't paid his lawyers.
you'd have taken your phone to the nearest flagpole and snapped your own picture of a flag, instead of starting with a stock image. You know you would have.
Any modern image/photo lab can use a paint jet printer from a digital file to print onto canvas. There's no way an amateur can paint text that well.
I don't need no stink'n copyright ok...I gots me a gun instead!
I contacted Zimmerman directly via ebay and posed this question
Did you use a light box and stencils to transfer the plagiarized image and lettering onto canvas.
Thanks, I'm just curious about your process.
We'll see if it makes it to the auction page.
Just like they bought eight dollar bottles of "W" Ketchup to boycott Heinz and Rush Limpballs Iced Tea. They are the biggest marks going.
And, if the buyer does not know about the plagiarism before the end of the auction, expect a law suit afterwards.
Or have a clue what "art" even is. The stuff hanging on their walls already is probably about as linear and unsubtle as it gets. And they're buying infamy, anyway. GZ could bronze one of his turds and they'd snap it up.
you can email PayPal about this transaction here: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/home/?action=emailus
Last night, when I saw the post about him selling a painting, the first thing I did was go through Google images, to find the painting he copied it from. Couldn't find it, but you did!
I'm an artist, in my spare time, and I knew that asswad couldn't come up with a painting resembling reality without a modicum of time to learn how to paint. So, he's a plagiarist, besides being a murderer. Figures.
to ostensibly do investigative reporting.
... that the lettering here was hand painted, and I say this as someone who has some experience hand painting lettering.
...painting or writing words in the fashion of an old typewriter, complete with serif font, would be the quite natural option for a beginner painter.
This makes my head hurt.
... it's likely that, not only is he lying about it being his "original" work - he doesn't even know what it is he's selling (i.e. it's not a painting - it's a digital print on canvas). Either he knows full well what this canvas is (and he's lying), or the person who made it for him is conning him (and he's a fool).
The wrinkles in the printed canvas that is glued to a pre-stretched canvas tell a story.
He does not know how to stretch canvas.
I think I can fudge the lettering myself.
Unbelievable the sheer gall of someone who got away with murder to use those words to profit from.
It really is disgusting. I hope this story makes it to the news media although the morons who actually support him, probably won't care, sadly. If they can condone murder they won't be too worried about theft.
make money from it.
Using an EBay PayPal calculator they stand to make over $3000 if it only sells for $100,000. They wont remove it for that profit.
They'll remove this just as well.
And yes, a vintage (1950s) Les Paul can fetch more than $100,000.
If you look close, there are no brush-strokes. You can have this done at Costco. What a douche.
The font generator is probably identifiable given the way it is "painted" over.
Mouse over the image on eBay and check it out magnified.
Using a copyright image? Lets hope this fucker has to pay.
Q: Just wanted to tell you we all love you and stand behind you. You have so many people on your side I hope you know that!
A: Thank you so much for the words of kindness and support. I do know how many great Americans are still here, I run into at least 3-5 a day that go out of their way to tell me the same. Your Friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ
The KRovers, Kochie's and their spawn are using this means as a way to channel untaxed $s to a rw non-Anglo "buddy". (Untaxed because these AH don't pay anything on their capital gains, offshore holdings, inter-company "transfers".)
Perhaps that's exactly the right response: Sling in the faint praise, the back-of-the-hand pat, the dubble-auntraunde ("George, you are so clever at getting this original artwork to look just like the one you copied." Maybe he'll fb-befriend us.
"James Worley © ?@JamesWorley 7h George, Your painting is on Yahoo Top Stories! http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-39-painting-bids-reach-100-000-132734585--abc-news-topstories.html
Yup, @therealgeorgez has him holding that "painting" front and center on his avatar pic. Obviously his brother Robert is part of the scam. I'll bet Yahoo and ABC don't say anything when eBay withdraws the auction and Getty files a lawsuit.
Zimmerman's artwork lends new meaning to minimalism. Zimmerman's talent is minimal (to non-existent); his artistic vision is minimal (to non-existent); the amount of thought and effort he put into his 'creation' is minimal (to non-existent). He even aped the words he includes in the work. About the only thing even remotely clever about it is how he positioned the word "God" so that he could imply under. What I have to wonder is if he didn't cut off the last portion of his creation which clearly needed to read "including Trayvon Martin".
Earl, I really miss the 10 ten list. Please bring it back.
Especially his supporters....they should all be parted with their money.
Ruh-roh! I wonder if George Zimmerman is familiar with U.S. copyright law. Earl G at Democratic Underground has made an interesting discovery I wonder if anyone has alerted eBay that Zimmy is peddling a great big copyright-infringing bogus original work of art?
Stay tuned this could get really interesting really fast.
I love the smell of snark in the morning -- er, early afternoon for East Coasters
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George Zimmerman original painting
Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)
#GeorgeVanFraud perhaps? Maybe #GeorgeZcopycat is better, to not malign the great Vincent? Ideas anyone?
"@CallsForJustice: George Zimmerman's ORIGINAL PAINT BY PHOTOSHOP on @eBay ! #Zimmerman
StormyBlue ?@StormyBluePup 55m
Zimmerman stealing his "art" from Democratic Underground using Photoshop. You'd think he's steal from Republicans
Path2Enlightenment ?@Path2Enlighten 2h
LOL - George Zimmerman's #ebay "artwork" uses a photoshopped stolen image from Getty images: http://demu.gr/10024188920
On edit, thanks for the suggestions:
Hashtag Contest: George Zimmerman, would-be painter, plagiarist. Help create a good hashtag please.
If he did this art rendering w/o first purchasing a license he'll need at least that much just to break even!
Started out at a whopping 5.99 bills, but no takers so far.
I think Badnews Barbie's Christmas book is fetching more dough than W paintings.
George Zimmerman's Painting Bids Reach $100,000
Dec. 17, 2013
The video is worth watching because they follow with the clown serial killer story!
USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2013/12/17/george-zimmerman-painting-ebay/4050711/
does this mean that he won't have the money to buy his girlfriend a new glass table that he destroyed?
But they don't mention DU, of course!
I think when you auction stuff you already own it's not considered income. What about this?
If you're making a profitable income it should be reported to the IRS as such on your next tax return.
you'd technically owe income tax (maybe have some deductible expenses related to production costs, storing it, etc.). But, few folks pay if they make a few bucks off a trinket or two, and it's not an IRS target/priority.
But here, seems to me Zman is pretty much acting as a self-employed "artist" (albeit a worthless POS "artist" catering to the white wing) and would not only owe income tax, but likely FICA.
A few people on Gawker found the image on various sites last night.
And so far, the media hasn't realized this fraud.
Posted last night - my immediate first thought was that it was not a painting, but a photoshop - the person who spends money on it deserves to be taken.
And I had to get it on the blank canvas while it was fresh in my head.
Nice Job BTW!
Life is so sad.
Your work is very original, never seen anything like it before.
A: It's regular old household latex gloves and used condoms, melted down and applied with a blow torch. I know its not the fanciest, but my materials were just laying around, if you know what I mean, and I needed to get rid of, er, put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible while they were still pliable. Your friend, NYC_SKP @therealNewYorkCitySkip
Awesome work, NYC_SKP! I've always said, you're so creative! I've never seen anything like that. What is your muse? How do you just not burst with all of that creativity jumping out onto your canvas?...It fairly creates itself I'll bet... I know the real deal when I see it, and I see it in you. I fancy myself to be a patron of the arts. I'll give you $100,000 right now for that signed original!
anyone want to give me $100,000 for it?
Didn't think so. I hang with a smarter crowd than Georgie does.
I was checking it out another thread and totally thought it was traced over then painted. What can I say, I've been a paid media artist for 15 years. Can't escape the eye.
I hope the bidders lose a lot of money over this.
It's really hilarious that it's been used on a DU product! Great catch!
While I don't find it sad that a megalomaniac would post a bad Photoshop as original artwork on Ebay, I do weep that there is someone with $100,000 to waste on its purchase.
I guess money really is how untalented people keep score.
I'm pretty sure the "bidders" are all close friends...
Meanwhile, some amazing artists don't get diddly squat. He's like a god damn cancerous tumor.
including *this* gem!
Q: We all think a lot of you Zimm and hope the best for you!I may bid on your painting at the last min.How will you ship the picture,can it be picked up local?I would be driving from Arkansas
A: The price it is at now has well exceeded my $.99 minimum; therefore, whoever wins within the Continental United States, will receive this painting delivered by me personally. Your friend,
Wow, personal delivery (as long as he's allowed to enter that state, I guess)
Didn't Kincaid take already-done paintings and add some stupid mark, then call them original?
And the market seems pretty similar too.
Unlike George's house-paint-by-the-numbers on canvas.
The ones I found disgusting would say, "I think Mr. Zimmerman is an awful person, but he had no choice but to shoot big bad Trayvon Martin". They totally ignored his choice to grab his gun, stalk an unarmed teenager, bully him, then shoot him center mass as he had trained to do, then told the police his lies (again as trained to do).
Or better yet, Tweet the brains in the family, his scheming brother Robert Jr. @RZimmermanJr
begging for money. I bet source for that image was the source for his "painting". I there any way to tell where he got the image?
They're parasites who shake down anyone who uses Getty Images work without authorization.
And some people who have no idea what they're talking about.
McCormack and Zimmy deserve to meet each other.