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Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:00 PM

Just noticed that 3 out of the top 10 Best Selling Non-Fiction books are from ....

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the craziest MFs on the face of the planet ... Kraut-nose, O'Really, and Insane Beck ...

http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/hardcover-nonfiction/list.html

If we want our progressive message to be seen and heard, I ask where is it in mainstream America?



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Reply Just noticed that 3 out of the top 10 Best Selling Non-Fiction books are from .... (Original post)
MindMover Dec 2013 OP
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #1
FreeJoe Dec 2013 #12
lightcameron Dec 2013 #2
Danascot Dec 2013 #3
Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #4
Thor_MN Dec 2013 #5
Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #6
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #8
Igel Dec 2013 #7
xulamaude Dec 2013 #15
Earth_First Dec 2013 #17
lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #9
nyquil_man Dec 2013 #10
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #11
JI7 Dec 2013 #13
MindMover Dec 2013 #14
Name removed Dec 2013 #16

Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:03 PM

1. They are bought in bulk

 

So the selling stats will be that way. NYT knows of the issue but has not been able to come with a solution in 20 years or so. It is perception control.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:01 PM

12. I wish that explained it

If this was the result of bulk selling, presumably from wholesalers, these books would not be ranked highly for sales at Amazon. They are. As painful as it is, people are really buying this crap.

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:07 PM

2. Political/social commentary book sales are often not real sales.

Think-tanks and special interest groups buy them in bulk, then give them away (or offer them for really cheap) with membership to the group.

This happens on the left and right.

It's about time for the NYT and USA Today lists to stop counting these as "sales." As someone who rarely reads non-fiction, I don't care all that much, but still it would be nice to see the bestseller lists reflect true sales.

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 03:26 PM

3. Non-Fiction?

The NYT just needs to add a new category - Fiction, Non-Fiction, Unhinged

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 03:43 PM

4. Political books are sold this way...

 

Donors buy them in bulk. Great way to funnel cash to someone.

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 04:06 PM

5. Even easier now that you can "buy" a million digital copies

 

and not have to take delivery of anything. No Printing costs to eat up money either.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 04:08 PM

6. Wow, good point!

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:38 PM

8. ...and you're supporting a media conglomerate that you are invested in that is

 

owned/controlled by the people that are propelling the narrative from which you extract more money...

They broke the house and too many don't see it.

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 04:18 PM

7. "Kraut-nose"?

"Kraut"?

Really?

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Response to Igel (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:12 PM

15. +1

 

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Response to Igel (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 08:53 PM

17. No kidding...

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:46 PM

9. They're bought in huge lots at cut-rate wholesale prices.




Then sold to the gullible mouth breathers at the full suggested retail
price at the author's speaking gigs or at other RW political gatherings.

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:52 PM

10. It only takes a few thousand copies sold to make it to the top of that list

and conservative groups buy books up in bulk, selling them for a dollar.

It's not really representative.

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:53 PM

11. Obviously, fiction disguised as non-fiction sells better than non-fiction.

 

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Response to MindMover (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:08 PM

13. i think liberals prefer to read novels and they often have a liberal message

like dickens.

i'm a liberal and i don't think i ever really buy a book just because it was by some liberal who pretty much say what i already agree with.

i would buy things like krugman to become informed and he is an actual economist.

but i'm not going to buy something just because some liberal pundit wrote it.

but this isn't anything unusual. it's why the right wing does well with things like talk radio. these people just want to read or hear people say things they already agree with.

i think liberals are better at things like telling a story which is why films usually have a liberal message and do well and conservatives fail in that area.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:10 PM

14. Interesting ... thank you for your input ...

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