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Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:42 AM

CIA Role In MANDELA ARREST: "We gave them every detail-what he would be wearing, time of day, where"

C.I.A. TIE REPORTED IN MANDELA ARREST
By DAVID JOHNSTON, Special to The New York Times
Published: June 10, 1990


The Central Intelligence Agency played an important role in the arrest in 1962 of Nelson Mandela, the African National Congress leader who was jailed for nearly 28 years before his release four months ago, a news report says.

The intelligence service, using an agent inside the African National Congress, provided South African security officials with precise information about Mr. Mandela's activities that enabled the police to arrest him, said the account by the Cox News Service.

The report, scheduled for publication on Sunday, quoted an unidentified retired official who said that a senior C.I.A. officer told him shortly after Mr. Mandela's arrest: ''We have turned Mandela over to the South African Security branch. We gave them every detail, what he would be wearing, the time of day, just where he would be.''

Mark Mansfield, a spokesman for the agency, declined to comment on the news-service report. ''As a matter of policy, we do not discuss allegations of intelligence activities,'' he said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/10/world/cia-tie-reported-in-mandela-arrest.html

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Reply CIA Role In MANDELA ARREST: "We gave them every detail-what he would be wearing, time of day, where" (Original post)
kpete Dec 2013 OP
truebluegreen Dec 2013 #1
tina tron Dec 2013 #3
Recursion Dec 2013 #5
Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #2
NightWatcher Dec 2013 #4
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Wilms Dec 2013 #6
Chuckmonico Dec 2013 #7
MinM Dec 2013 #8
MinM Dec 2013 #9
Octafish Dec 2013 #10
MinM Dec 2013 #11

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:54 AM

1. Has the CIA been on the right side of any conflict, ever, anywhere?

 

I mean, even their actions promoting and propping up the Empire only engender blowback.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:36 PM

3. Oh they are on the right side

 

The side of greed, corporate power, Wall Street, finance, old family money and the 1%. Most of us are on the wrong side which is why we've been labelled as enemies.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:26 PM

5. Do you think it was wrong to arrest MK members?

I honestly don't know what to say about that (think IRA in 1986 or Hamas today).

(Not that the CIA should have stuck their nose in at all, mind you...)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:30 PM

2. kick..nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:38 PM

4. Be sure to wear your extra large US flag lapel pin today.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:52 PM

6. ^

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:55 PM

7. They did the same with Lumumba

 

They helped torturers get a hold of him in Congo.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:27 PM

8. Did JFK rein in #CIA after Mandela's arrest?

Jefferson Morley asks an interesting question about this...

@jeffersonmorley: Did JFK rein in #CIA after Mandela's arrest?

What did JFK think?

In the bureaucratic lingo of the CIA, “Higher Authority” is a euphemism for the President. Whether the retired official was referring to the Kennedy White House is not known, but the language is suggestive.

Did JFK seek to protect Mandela’s comrades from arrest after Mandela was captured?

I don’t know the answer to that question. But as independent scholar Jim DiEugenio recently detailed in Consortium News, Kennedy openly supported Third World nationalist leaders like Mandela at a time when most U.S. military and intelligence officials were hostile.

I’m wondering if any scholars of Mandela’s life or Kennedy’s Africa policy can shed light on JFK’s reaction to Mandela’s arrest...

http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/did-jfk-try-to-rein-in-the-cia-after-mandelas-arrest/

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Response to MinM (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:11 AM

9. JFK reacts to news of Lumumba's death...


...To understand the import of President Kennedy’s foreign policy ideas, one needs to contemplate the photo of Kennedy getting the news of the murder of Patrice Lumumba. The black African revolutionary leader of Congo was shot to death on Jan. 17, 1961, just three days before Kennedy was to take office, although his death was not confirmed for several weeks.

Eisenhower would not have reacted with the distress shown on Kennedy’s face because, as the Church Committee discovered, Lumumba’s murder was linked to the approval of a plan by Eisenhower and CIA Director Allen Dulles to eliminate him. (William Blum, The CIA: A Forgotten History, pgs. 175-176) Former CIA officer John Stockwell wrote in his book In Search of Enemies that he later talked to a CIA colleague who said it was his job to dispose of Lumumba’s body. (Stockwell, p. 50)

To fully understand the difference between how Kennedy viewed Africa and how Eisenhower, the Dulles brothers and later Lyndon Johnson did, one must appreciate why Eisenhower and his national security team felt it necessary to eliminate Lumumba. As Philip Muehlenbeck has noted in his book Betting on the Africans, Eisenhower and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles essentially ignored the tidal wave of decolonization that swept through Africa in the Fifties and Sixties. Nearly 30 new nations emerged in Africa during this time period...

There are some writers, like John Morton Blum and the late Jonathan Kwitny, who did not believe the timing of Lumumba’s murder to be a coincidence, just three days before Kennedy’s inauguration. It may have been done then because the CIA suspected that Kennedy would side with Lumumba, which, when his new plan for Congo was formulated, was clearly what JFK was going to do...

http://consortiumnews.com/2013/11/25/jfks-embrace-of-third-world-nationalists/

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Response to MinM (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:34 AM

10. Excellent question.

Excellent reporter, Jefferson Morley -- TOPS in every way.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:53 AM

11. Audio of JFK reeling in the CIA

Here's just one example of JFK trying to rein in the CIA.

@lisapease: Recording of JFK telling Sargent Shriver not to let CIA infiltrate the Peace Corps.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKPOF-TPH-17B-1.aspx

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1108&pid=20391

As for this specific case with Mandela .. this comment on Morley's piece likely nails it.

rollo says:
December 10, 2013 at 11:41 am

South Africa looked very stable in the early 1960s, so I doubt JFK would have had reason to spend any time worrying about it. There was too much else going on.

http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/did-jfk-try-to-rein-in-the-cia-after-mandelas-arrest/

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