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Wed Dec 4, 2013, 12:19 PM

I love this man

The President. You know why, cause he loves me.
Watching his speech at the center for american progress

Kicking some puke ass and taking names

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Reply I love this man (Original post)
madokie Dec 2013 OP
Skidmore Dec 2013 #1
russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #2
marsis Dec 2013 #5
Whisp Dec 2013 #7
Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #9
marsis Dec 2013 #10
Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #12
marsis Dec 2013 #14
Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #19
The Wielding Truth Dec 2013 #15
marsis Dec 2013 #16
namaste2 Dec 2013 #18
pnwmom Dec 2013 #23
riverbendviewgal Dec 2013 #3
NuclearDem Dec 2013 #4
polichick Dec 2013 #17
freshwest Dec 2013 #6
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #8
malaise Dec 2013 #11
mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #13
Cha Dec 2013 #20
madokie Dec 2013 #21
Cha Dec 2013 #22

Response to madokie (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 12:22 PM

1. Watched it. Particularly loved his takedown of "unfettered markets" to solve the

nation's problems.

I also loved him calling out Congress and demanding that they explain what they are for because the American people deserve to know that.

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Response to madokie (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 12:29 PM

2. A little "Bromance" here too.

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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:18 PM

5. Mostly an act.

 

Like most Chicago Democrats (look up Illinois budget/pension problem/solution) he is a corporatist.
Simple but he's the best we've got. Shudder.

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Response to marsis (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:02 PM

7. ...

 



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Response to marsis (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:47 PM

9. It's a curious phenomenon, the ways various people see him,

 

as if they knew him, or knew more than their
own small point of view.

I don't see a corporatist, I see a man of integrity who
is doing his best, working way harder than probably
nearly anybody else on the planet, to do the right thing
for the people of this country and the world as well.

He is not stupid enough to be blind to the damages
being done by corporations, cheaters and deceivers,
fearmongerers, warmongerers, godmongerers. As
far as I can tell he has always been a man of heart
and conscience, great intelligence and courage.
That's how he was raised and who he became.

I have never had particular expectations of what
he's able/willing to do as president, and for that I am
glad. I continue to see a man of vision who is
having a big impact on history. He is navigating
brilliantly, in my opinion, through a delicate maze
of obstructionist spiderwebs and previous administrations'
devastation. When he became president it was like a
war zone, and continues to be. Not only had Bush
wrecked everything, but there were enemies and
spies everywhere, the media propaganda machine
was all set to roll, the money was all in place, the
supreme court was in the pocket, and wall street
was flying high with liars and thieves at the top.

Look what has happened anyway. Don't be
cynical, it helps nobody. Focus on solutions.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 03:00 PM

10. Righto

 

"Not only had Bush
wrecked everything, but there were enemies and
spies everywhere, the media propaganda machine
was all set to roll, the money was all in place, the
supreme court was in the pocket, and wall street
was flying high with liars and thieves at the top."

SO after the bailout for Bush's failures, what has changed except for actively going after pot smokers more often than Bush did?

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Response to marsis (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 03:46 PM

12. in my point of view, a lot has changed.

 

A year ago Rachel Maddow had a segment
which may answer your question, at least
in regards to his first term, if you earnestly
want to know.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/vp/49703896#49703896

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:10 PM

14. Yup

 

we see things differently. I saw that when it was originally broadcast and several times since and usually go into a funk thinking people fall for this. Or maybe I just think differently or am too progressive for the main stream Democrats.

Mostly, those bills were all that were left after those "controlled" entities were allowed to insert/re-write their own versions. If you really look at all that the legislation you'll see that VERY little changed or there were amendments that allowed those same entities to skirt the new laws. All the big boys got their way, what we got were watered down versions of good ideas. Look at healthcare, just a typical example, what was proposed and what he acquiesced to created this mess we have today. Credit card companies, come on. Hate crimes, grey area, Trayvon Martin. Stand your ground. Etc etc,
But the perceptions do make for a feel good moments.

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Response to marsis (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:53 PM

19. as I said, focus on solutions. Life is made of moments. The more of them that feel good, the better.

 

THAT last bit is up to each of us. Not Obama's job.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:12 PM

15. This is how I feel too. I knew he wasn't a Abbie Hoffman revolutionist when I voted for him and

I campaigned for him as a centrist who was so much better for this country than McCain or Romney or anyone on the right.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:23 PM

16. Sure we all understood that.

 

That's a no-brainer, but I didn't expect a right of center President with strong corporatist leanings.

Living in Illinois has jaded me, what "our" Democrats appear to be and what the reality is are quite different things.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:56 PM

18. I agree 100% - thank you for your post and insight.

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Response to marsis (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:58 AM

23. You sound like a Chicago Republican. n/t

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Response to madokie (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:14 PM

3. I love him but onlly some of him

he did have FATCA as a law.

It is a stupid law and a harmful law.

It hurts the USA

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:15 PM

4. And the TPP is still in the works.

 

Which is why I can't take the minimum wage speeches all that seriously.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:24 PM

17. Yes - it doesn't add up. He says the right things, then does other things.

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Response to madokie (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:46 PM

6. Hope it shows up on youtube soon.

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Response to madokie (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 03:08 PM

11. Yep that was great

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Response to madokie (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 03:55 PM

13. the President is doing the best he can

with what he got. He is an elected official that must follow rules and procedures. If he could change things with just his signature or say so, he would. But you have a tricked out Congress that just don't get that Americans have just about had it with them. Maybe they will understand when poll numbers are -5 (minus five). with poll numbers as low as they really are I think Democratic members shouldn't get too comfy.

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Response to madokie (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:34 AM

20. Love him back, too, madokie~

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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:45 AM

21. He's a good man

doing a good job in spite of everything the pukes has thrown his way. If a person pays attention to what he says and how he says it its pretty obvious that he's on our side.
I realized way back there when I was lied into a war that if I knew what was good for me I'd better pay attention to politicians, that they do matter. That realization has served me well over the years.

In my 65 years we've not had a President who works harder for us than President Obama.

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Response to madokie (Reply #21)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:51 AM

22. I wholeheartedly agree, madokie! Grateful I'm alive

in his time in Office. It's been an historical ride and it ain't over yet!

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