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Sat Nov 30, 2013, 04:35 PM

 

Greenwald To BBC: Journalists Must Investigate The Powerful In Gov’t Since They Lie To The People

Greenwald to BBC: Journalists must investigate the Powerful in Gov’t since they Lie to the People (BBC Surprised)
By Juan Cole
Nov. 29, 2013

Glenn Greenwald on the BBC’s Hardtalk seems to surprise the anchor by asserting that journalists need to investigate the powerful since the latter tend to lie to the people.

This is how the BBC describes the program

“Journalist Glenn Greenwald who reported on the data leaked by US whistleblower Edward Snowden has told HARDtalk it is the job of journalists to investigate the claims of people in power.

Mr Greenwald said the Iraq war was as an example of how the US and UK governments had made “false claims” to gain support for the war.

“People in power, specifically national security officials will routinely lie to their population,” he added.


The video is here: http://www.juancole.com/2013/11/greenwald-to-bbc-journalists-must-investigate-the-powerful-in-govt-since-they-lie-to-the-people-bbc-surprised.html


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Reply Greenwald To BBC: Journalists Must Investigate The Powerful In Gov’t Since They Lie To The People (Original post)
WillyT Nov 2013 OP
madrchsod Nov 2013 #1
Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #2
Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #3
WillyT Nov 2013 #5
Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #6
WillyT Nov 2013 #13
bvar22 Nov 2013 #14
Mojorabbit Dec 2013 #16
sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #23
NuclearDem Nov 2013 #8
Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #10
sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #24
kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #4
KoKo Nov 2013 #7
BlueCheese Nov 2013 #9
G_j Nov 2013 #12
SpcMnky Nov 2013 #11
bvar22 Nov 2013 #15
treestar Dec 2013 #17
Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #18
treestar Dec 2013 #21
cali Dec 2013 #19
treestar Dec 2013 #22
CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #20
NuclearDem Dec 2013 #25
gulliver Dec 2013 #26

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:09 PM

1. it`s in their job description

to many of them can`t figure out where the line is they can't cross...

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:40 PM

2. The interview is well worth watching! K&R

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:42 PM

3. What country is Greenwald living in now?

How come they keep interviewing him since he has no secrets of his own to expose?

Or, is he just the middleman looking for fame and fortune?

Look for the movie to come out next year for the answers.
Greenwald will be playing the part of Superman/Batman and he will look every bit as good as Brad Pitt or Paul Newman.
I don't know who they are going to get to play him in the movie, though.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:55 PM

5. Ya See... Here's How It Works...

 

He has a SOURCE, a source that is currently scaring the shit out of TPTB...

The source trusted INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST Glenn Greenwald with the information he has, and Greenwald and others are going through it to see what is worth reporting, without anybody getting killed.

And many other Publishers have joined in lending a hand with this endeavor...

The Guardian, the NYT, Reutersto name a few...

But it was Snowden and Greenwald who got this ball rolling, and I thank them both from the bottom of my freedom loving heart.

Hope that helps.


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Response to WillyT (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:10 PM

6. He went to the same sources that lied FOR the war!!

Does Judy Miller ring a bell?

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:13 PM

13. Those Weren't The Sources... Those Were The Publishers...

 

And yeah they published Judith Miller's work, they also published Paul Krugman's.

The NYT is a big organization, and they have people from both left and right on staff.

Judith got the boot...

And the Guardian and Greenwald negotiated publishing with the NYT because the Guardian is not protected by the 1st Amendment... it being in England.

BTW... The NYT may have published Judith Miller's BS, but they also published the Pentagon Papers.



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Response to WillyT (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:48 PM

14. Very concise! Good Job.

Thanks for the explanation!
Anybody should be able to understand that.

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Response to WillyT (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:25 PM

16. + a gazillion. nt

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:50 PM

23. And they were forced to fire Judith Miller and apologize, thanks to OTHER courageous

people who just wouldn't shut up about the lies, as Greenwald states correctly, Governments tell and the puppets they have in the media.

Of course he went to them, they claim still to be the paper of record. And to give them some due, they have improved somewhat since the days when they held back information because Bush and his gang demanded it.

They also published a lot of Chelsea Manning's leaks.

Greenwald and Wikileaks among other Independent publishers and journalists have stepped into the vacuum created in the news business when OUR news orgs were TAKEN OVER by Corporations.

And now there is a struggle to silence the New Media. You are doing your part, perhaps unwittingly every time you slam those who have the courage to tell the public the truth.

I otoh and millions of others will give all the support they can to those, like Greenwald, who is setting an example for the Old Media, now the Corporate Media, on how NOT to be intimidated by government pressure to spread ONLY propaganda and to suppress the facts.

It's making all the 'right' people angry, which is how we know the New Media is doing ITS job now that the Old Media stopped doing ITS job.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:18 PM

8. Brazil, where his husband lives.

 

Since he can be legally married there.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:40 PM

10. He should investigate the Guardian and the NYT and find out why they lied about the war.

But, that would cut his oxygen supply off, though.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:56 PM

24. If someone leaks information on that, he WILL. Are you aware that he did not

claim ever, to be an investigative journalist who went out and sought information on the NSA?? He received LEAKS from a Whistleblower and rather than hide them from the public, which is what the Corporate Media would have done had THEY received them, or so Snowden believed and with good reason, he published them and offered an opportunity to other major news sources to do the same.


If you know someone with info on why the major news media lied about the wars, then tell them to send the info to people like Greenwald, NOT to send it to CNN, Faux, MSNBC, CNBC.

And btw, the Guardian DID publish facts about the Iraq War but were hounded and investigated and threatened with charges by the Blair Govt and in case you forgot, when the published a Whistle Blower leak from a respected former Iraq Weapons Inspector, they found out who the leaker was, persecuted HIM and according to THEM, he ended up committing 'suicide'. Not too many people believe he committed suicide, but either way, THAT served as a warning to any Journalist regarding telling the truth about those criminal wars.

We KNOW a lot about what happened to the BBC and the The Guardian when they tried to report the truth about Bush/Blair and the lies they told.

I'm surprised you don't remember.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:42 PM

4. And while they are at it, investigate the powerful in corporations. They lie to the people too! nt

 

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:13 PM

7. Recommend!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:21 PM

9. That statement seems so self-evidently obvious I'm surprised it's controversial.

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Response to BlueCheese (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:03 PM

12. that says it all

and is disturbing in itself..

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:51 PM

11. We desperately need more reporters like him!

 

Hopefully he inspires a generation.

Thank you Mr. Greenwald for having the courage of your convictions

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:54 PM

15. The really scary part is that Greenwald STANDS OUT, and is HATED....

...for simply Doing His JOB!



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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:27 PM

17. Journalists can lie, however; that's OK

It's ridiculously paranoid to assume everything from someone in authority is a lie.

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Response to treestar (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:32 PM

18. It's ridiculously naive to assume everything from someone in authority is the truth.

 

Especially when it comes to money or war.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:39 PM

21. True. Both your statement and mine are true.

Glenn OTOH seems to be flogging the idea they are all bad, always. Seems very bitter towards his fellow citizens, who keep electing people to serve in government offices, and sometimes thinking those people are OK.

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Response to treestar (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:36 PM

19. It's even more ridiculous to do what you repeatedly do:

 

defend everything that the administration and the President do- from the NSA to drone strikes.

I find your excessive partisanship very disturbing.

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Response to cali (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:40 PM

22. I did not defend anything

here; merely pointed to the fact that not believing anyone else, especially elected leaders chosen by the voters, is paranoid and as ridiculous as blindly following them.

This administration is just one of many; Glennie seems to think they are always bad. That way he can make money off of people who are gullible and get them to hang onto his every word.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:36 PM

20. Agreed.

 

8 years of lies, wars and darkness was a sad time for our country.

I'm glad this administration is honest and genuinely on the side of the people.

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Response to CorrectOfCenter (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 02:03 PM

25. Clapper. Alexander.

 

Unprecedented level of prosecuting whistleblowers.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 03:11 PM

26. I guess if Greenwald says the Iraq War mongers are liars...

...that means he isn't one.

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