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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 03:35 PM Nov 2013

Greenwald To BBC: Journalists Must Investigate The Powerful In Govít Since They Lie To The People

Greenwald to BBC: Journalists must investigate the Powerful in Gov’t since they Lie to the People (BBC Surprised)
By Juan Cole
Nov. 29, 2013

Glenn Greenwald on the BBC’s Hardtalk seems to surprise the anchor by asserting that journalists need to investigate the powerful since the latter tend to lie to the people.

This is how the BBC describes the program

“Journalist Glenn Greenwald who reported on the data leaked by US whistleblower Edward Snowden has told HARDtalk it is the job of journalists to investigate the claims of people in power.

Mr Greenwald said the Iraq war was as an example of how the US and UK governments had made “false claims” to gain support for the war.

“People in power, specifically national security officials will routinely lie to their population,” he added.


The video is here: http://www.juancole.com/2013/11/greenwald-to-bbc-journalists-must-investigate-the-powerful-in-govt-since-they-lie-to-the-people-bbc-surprised.html


Greenwald To BBC: Journalists Must Investigate The Powerful In Govít Since They Lie To The People (Original Post) WillyT Nov 2013 OP
it`s in their job description madrchsod Nov 2013 #1
The interview is well worth watching! K&R Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #2
What country is Greenwald living in now? Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #3
Ya See... Here's How It Works... WillyT Nov 2013 #5
He went to the same sources that lied FOR the war!! Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #6
Those Weren't The Sources... Those Were The Publishers... WillyT Nov 2013 #13
Very concise! Good Job. bvar22 Nov 2013 #14
+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2013 #16
And they were forced to fire Judith Miller and apologize, thanks to OTHER courageous sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #23
Brazil, where his husband lives. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #8
He should investigate the Guardian and the NYT and find out why they lied about the war. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #10
If someone leaks information on that, he WILL. Are you aware that he did not sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #24
And while they are at it, investigate the powerful in corporations. They lie to the people too! nt kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #4
Recommend! KoKo Nov 2013 #7
That statement seems so self-evidently obvious I'm surprised it's controversial. BlueCheese Nov 2013 #9
that says it all G_j Nov 2013 #12
We desperately need more reporters like him! SpcMnky Nov 2013 #11
The really scary part is that Greenwald STANDS OUT, and is HATED.... bvar22 Nov 2013 #15
Journalists can lie, however; that's OK treestar Dec 2013 #17
It's ridiculously naive to assume everything from someone in authority is the truth. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #18
True. Both your statement and mine are true. treestar Dec 2013 #21
It's even more ridiculous to do what you repeatedly do: cali Dec 2013 #19
I did not defend anything treestar Dec 2013 #22
Agreed. CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #20
Clapper. Alexander. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #25
I guess if Greenwald says the Iraq War mongers are liars... gulliver Dec 2013 #26

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
3. What country is Greenwald living in now?
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 06:42 PM
Nov 2013

How come they keep interviewing him since he has no secrets of his own to expose?

Or, is he just the middleman looking for fame and fortune?

Look for the movie to come out next year for the answers.
Greenwald will be playing the part of Superman/Batman and he will look every bit as good as Brad Pitt or Paul Newman.
I don't know who they are going to get to play him in the movie, though.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
5. Ya See... Here's How It Works...
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 06:55 PM
Nov 2013

He has a SOURCE, a source that is currently scaring the shit out of TPTB...

The source trusted INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST Glenn Greenwald with the information he has, and Greenwald and others are going through it to see what is worth reporting, without anybody getting killed.

And many other Publishers have joined in lending a hand with this endeavor...

The Guardian, the NYT, Reutersto name a few...

But it was Snowden and Greenwald who got this ball rolling, and I thank them both from the bottom of my freedom loving heart.

Hope that helps.


 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
13. Those Weren't The Sources... Those Were The Publishers...
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:13 PM
Nov 2013

And yeah they published Judith Miller's work, they also published Paul Krugman's.

The NYT is a big organization, and they have people from both left and right on staff.

Judith got the boot...

And the Guardian and Greenwald negotiated publishing with the NYT because the Guardian is not protected by the 1st Amendment... it being in England.

BTW... The NYT may have published Judith Miller's BS, but they also published the Pentagon Papers.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. And they were forced to fire Judith Miller and apologize, thanks to OTHER courageous
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:50 PM
Dec 2013

people who just wouldn't shut up about the lies, as Greenwald states correctly, Governments tell and the puppets they have in the media.

Of course he went to them, they claim still to be the paper of record. And to give them some due, they have improved somewhat since the days when they held back information because Bush and his gang demanded it.

They also published a lot of Chelsea Manning's leaks.

Greenwald and Wikileaks among other Independent publishers and journalists have stepped into the vacuum created in the news business when OUR news orgs were TAKEN OVER by Corporations.

And now there is a struggle to silence the New Media. You are doing your part, perhaps unwittingly every time you slam those who have the courage to tell the public the truth.

I otoh and millions of others will give all the support they can to those, like Greenwald, who is setting an example for the Old Media, now the Corporate Media, on how NOT to be intimidated by government pressure to spread ONLY propaganda and to suppress the facts.

It's making all the 'right' people angry, which is how we know the New Media is doing ITS job now that the Old Media stopped doing ITS job.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
10. He should investigate the Guardian and the NYT and find out why they lied about the war.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:40 PM
Nov 2013

But, that would cut his oxygen supply off, though.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. If someone leaks information on that, he WILL. Are you aware that he did not
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013

claim ever, to be an investigative journalist who went out and sought information on the NSA?? He received LEAKS from a Whistleblower and rather than hide them from the public, which is what the Corporate Media would have done had THEY received them, or so Snowden believed and with good reason, he published them and offered an opportunity to other major news sources to do the same.


If you know someone with info on why the major news media lied about the wars, then tell them to send the info to people like Greenwald, NOT to send it to CNN, Faux, MSNBC, CNBC.

And btw, the Guardian DID publish facts about the Iraq War but were hounded and investigated and threatened with charges by the Blair Govt and in case you forgot, when the published a Whistle Blower leak from a respected former Iraq Weapons Inspector, they found out who the leaker was, persecuted HIM and according to THEM, he ended up committing 'suicide'. Not too many people believe he committed suicide, but either way, THAT served as a warning to any Journalist regarding telling the truth about those criminal wars.

We KNOW a lot about what happened to the BBC and the The Guardian when they tried to report the truth about Bush/Blair and the lies they told.

I'm surprised you don't remember.

 

SpcMnky

(73 posts)
11. We desperately need more reporters like him!
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:51 PM
Nov 2013

Hopefully he inspires a generation.

Thank you Mr. Greenwald for having the courage of your convictions

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treestar

(82,354 posts)
17. Journalists can lie, however; that's OK
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:27 PM
Dec 2013

It's ridiculously paranoid to assume everything from someone in authority is a lie.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
18. It's ridiculously naive to assume everything from someone in authority is the truth.
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:32 PM
Dec 2013

Especially when it comes to money or war.

treestar

(82,354 posts)
21. True. Both your statement and mine are true.
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

Glenn OTOH seems to be flogging the idea they are all bad, always. Seems very bitter towards his fellow citizens, who keep electing people to serve in government offices, and sometimes thinking those people are OK.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. It's even more ridiculous to do what you repeatedly do:
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:36 PM
Dec 2013

defend everything that the administration and the President do- from the NSA to drone strikes.

I find your excessive partisanship very disturbing.

treestar

(82,354 posts)
22. I did not defend anything
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:40 PM
Dec 2013

here; merely pointed to the fact that not believing anyone else, especially elected leaders chosen by the voters, is paranoid and as ridiculous as blindly following them.

This administration is just one of many; Glennie seems to think they are always bad. That way he can make money off of people who are gullible and get them to hang onto his every word.

 

CorrectOfCenter

(101 posts)
20. Agreed.
Sun Dec 1, 2013, 12:36 PM
Dec 2013

8 years of lies, wars and darkness was a sad time for our country.

I'm glad this administration is honest and genuinely on the side of the people.

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