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Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:16 AM

NSA Spying Crushes US Tech Companies in Emerging Markets (“An Industry Phenomenon")

From Testosterone Pit, an economics blog the DU Stock Market Watch threads pointed me to:

“Our top five emerging markets declined 21%,” Chamber said, “with Brazil down 25%, Mexico down 18%, India down 18%, China down 18%, and Russia down 30%.

“I’ve never seen that fast a move in emerging markets,” Chambers said. His industry peers were seeing the same thing. “Most of my CEO counterparts can almost finish my sentences in terms of what’s occurring,” he said. He even mentioned IBM. It’s “an industry phenomenon.”

The NSA’s reckless all-encompassing spying, and its hand-in-glove multi-billion-dollar collusion with US tech companies to accomplish it, is now wreaking havoc on these same tech companies. Revenues are getting crushed overseas. Emerging market governments and companies are looking at other options. Trust that has taken decades to build has evaporated. A study in early August estimated that the spying scandal would cost US tech companies $35 billion. Which might not even be enough for a down-payment: alone that 11% drop in Cisco’s stock today cost shareholders $16 billion.

It’s not a temporary issue. New revelations bubble to the surface all the time to complete the picture of a seamless, borderless, nearly perfect surveillance society. One dimension: the NSA and British GCHQ secretly break into the “clouds” of US companies to syphon off user data on a large scale. Illegal in the US. But the cloud is worldwide. Read….. NSA Secretly Breaks Into The Cloud Of US Tech Companies, Siphons Off Data, Fouls Up Revenues Overseas


I think this has to be filed under the "blowback" category. The relative silence of the tech industry on the issue has been rather astonishing. Germany is considering building its own internet backbone.

Another form of blowback: After the NSA revelations, who will listen to America on human rights? The comments are interesting as well. The author is heavily criticised for implying the US did have standing about human rights before Bush*.

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BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 OP
Fumesucker Nov 2013 #1
BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #5
bemildred Nov 2013 #2
gulliver Nov 2013 #3
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #4
Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #6
Quantess Nov 2013 #7
Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #8
BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #9
Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #10

Response to BelgianMadCow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:53 AM

1. It's all Snowwald's fault for telling us things we've known since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 05:37 PM

5. Only three replies down

but to each his or her opinion.

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Response to BelgianMadCow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 09:11 AM

2. And this is just the beginning. nt

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Response to BelgianMadCow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 09:31 AM

3. Nice job, Snowden!

The tempest in a teapot he and Greenwald started is putting Americans out of work. For nothing.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 10:43 AM

4. Blaming the people who uncovered illegal activities

instead of those who committed them?

The blowback is because of what our gov. did in violation of the law,
not because the behavior was reported.



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Response to gulliver (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 05:41 PM

6. Right. It's not the NSA spying that's at fault, it's Snowden exposing it.

 

Oh, wait, you're......serious?

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Response to BelgianMadCow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 06:53 PM

7. K & R

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Response to BelgianMadCow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:18 PM

8. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, BelgianMadCow.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:21 PM

9. No, thank you for all your kindness

in always thanking a poster for a thread, Uncle Joe.

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Response to BelgianMadCow (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:25 PM

10. Thanks for the kind words.

Peace to you and have a good evening, BelgianMadCow.

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