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Thu Mar 8, 2012, 02:18 PM

AFN's reply to me about Limbaugh

My email to AFN, urging them to remove Rush...


I am <name removed>, and I've been in the Air Force for 10 years now. During my career, serving CONUS, OCONUS, and deployments, I have enjoyed your television and radio programming, though I have at times disagreed with your choices of what to broadcast. In the past I have said nothing, because it was of no real consequence what you choose to show as long as it stayed appropriate and within the bounds of entertainment, news, or civil discourse. However, I am moved to comment on my extreme disapproval of AFN broadcasting Rush Limbaugh in light of recent events.

As you may or may not know, Mr. Limbaugh has recently used his show to attack and belittle women for nothing more than taking an active part in the American democratic process, something we as service members are sworn to protect. This goes beyond disagreeing with the views of others, this is a willful assault on an entire gender, and promotion of discrimination, the likes of which we maintain a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on. I would not tolerate it from my subordinates, peers, or even superiors, and I will not tolerate it on AFN.

A petition is being circulated at the White House website to remove Mr. Limbaugh's show stating: “remarks this week were well beyond the pale of what should be broadcast to our military and their families, supported with our tax dollars,” the petition states. “There is no excuse for the U.S. government, in any capacity, giving this man an audience.”

Yesterday Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee said of AFN: "I would hope the people that run it see just how offensive this is and drop it on their own volition" I couldn't agree more with the senator, and the petitioners. This vile kind of hateful speech is the very kind of behavior that we work tirelessly to extinguish in our young airmen.

Meanwhile, female veterans groups have launched letter campaigns stating: "Rush Limbaugh has a freedom of speech and can say what he wants, but in light of his horribly misogynistic comments, American Forces Radio should no longer give him a platform. Our entire military depends on troops respecting each other – women and men. There simply can be no place on military airwaves for sentiments that would undermine that respect." Once again, it seems that the writing is on the wall, service men and women alike will not be giving Mr. Limbaugh further opportunities to pollute the chow halls, gyms, clinics, and homes, where not only troops, but their families will be exposed to AFN.

Please consider the message you have a chance to send, as there are only two outcomes. AFN can stand by Mr. Limbaugh, as public outcry, the urgings of leadership, and the appeals of servicemen like myself demand the contrary and in doing so effectively send the message that hateful, misogynistic, discriminatory behavior is accepted on AFN programming. Alternatively, AFN can immediately distance itself from this sort of bigotry, and send the message that AFN upholds the very same standards that we are each held to that dawn a uniform.

As for myself, the choice is clear. I will immediately and quite permanently remove myself from any carriers of Mr. Limbaugh's program including AFN. I, and hopefully many like me, will turn AFN off, until they can AT LEAST, measure up to the same standards that every airman must have. Until such time as AFN finds Mr. Limbaugh incompatible with common decency and civil discourse, I shall find AFN incompatible with me.

Thank you,

<name removed>

P.S. This month is women's heritage month, and today is international women's appreciation day. Just something to think about.

The reply I received scant minutes later....

Sir -

As a service of the Department of Defense, AFN does not advertise on Mr Limbaugh's program, offer products for sale, or sponsor any of the programs we relay to our audience.

The American Forces Network does not censor content and we do not seek to protect our overseas Department of Defense audience from hearing views with which they may disagree. Our mission is to offer program choices, which includes various popular political talk shows.

To review our radio services/schedules, please visit www.myafn.net.

Thanks for your service and for your interest in AFN.


- Gene Frederickson
Affiliate Relations
AFN Broadcast Center
Riverside, CA

So according to this, the official stance of AFN is that since they don't sponsor Rush, they don't care what he says. It's jsut a "view" of his that they don't shield anyone from. If anyone else is interested, I sent the webmail from here: http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/Email.aspx

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deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 OP
Blue Owl Mar 2012 #1
deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #3
gratuitous Mar 2012 #2
deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #4
gratuitous Mar 2012 #5
Bandit Mar 2012 #6
deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #7
BeeBee Mar 2012 #8

Response to deacon_sephiroth (Original post)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:34 PM

1. In that spirit, they should offer shit sandwiches as a dining option in the mess hall

I mean, our soldiers should have choices, right?

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:47 PM

3. at least the cuisine would match the theatre n/t

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Response to deacon_sephiroth (Original post)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:43 PM

2. Who's asking AFN to "censor" anything?

That vile human being is perfectly free to continue spewing his hatred and rage, offensive as it is to the 51% of the population who are women, and about 48% of the rest of the population that cares about them. It's a mystery to me why AFN feels that it must include this vile human being's program on their broadcast.

I wonder if Mr. Frederickson's middle initials are "C.S."?

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:49 PM

4. I know, but I expected this kind of reply.

I thought I made it obvious in my email that it was about AFN making a choice to give this man and his message a platform and clearly they'd rather change that language.

These are the people that think that being rich automatically makes you a "job creator".

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Response to deacon_sephiroth (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:05 PM

5. Indeed

Good for you for making the effort. Perhaps if enough folks contact AFN, they'll get the message and evaluate anew whether they are obliged to fork over valuable air time to this vile human being.

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Response to deacon_sephiroth (Original post)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:36 PM

6. "which includes various popular political talk shows. "

I would ask them exactly what part "politics" plays in the military...I always thought the military was supposed to be completely non-political...If they are all rabid Republicans how am I supposed to believe they will protect me instead of trying to eliminate me as a Liberal? Get politics completely out and away from our Military.. It is supposed to be for everyone and not just Republicans.

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Response to Bandit (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:44 PM

7. all I could say for that one is that they SORT of tried to balance it...

or at least they did for a while.

Occassionally you see this commercial on AFN featuring pictures of Rush, Hannity, O'reiley, followed by KO (before current) and Maddow, claiming that they strive to balance out the biased programming.

KO no longer appears on AFN, though I still see Maddow, and at least we get the Daily Show and the Colbert Report, so it's not exactly foxpubliganda ALL the time...

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