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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:28 PM

why you shouldnt compare obamacare to katrina or iraq, in one chart. cc: all pundits

Sorry, but Obamacare is not President Obama's 'Iraq war'
The media was quick to declare the Iraq war a success when it wasn't. Now reporters can't wait to label Obamacare a disaster


Here is how the ACA exchanges are not like the Iraq war (or the Bush mismanagement of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath), in one chart:


As offensive as Strong's analogy is to, well, anyone, it's perhaps more instructive than he intended: imagine if the ACA had the kind of blindly optimistic bipartisan support enjoyed by the Iraq War. Imagine if the Obama administration had been able to embed reporters in among enthusiastic and over-prepared participants. Imagine if the ACA's explosions had painted pretty colors in the night sky.

Instead, the ACA is the polar opposite of the Iraq war, not just in terms of aim (saving lives versus taking them), but in terms of a model for political cooperation and press coverage. The ACA created ruthless, even suicidal political opposition: if the Democrats had responded to even the rumors of disaster at the beginning of the Iraq war (and we were warned) the way that the GOP has dug its heels in on Obamacare Ė shut the government down until Bush admitted defeat and withdrew Ė then the chart of how many deaths each had caused might not look quite as tragic. Though it would still look pretty tragic.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/23/obamacare-website-glitches-not-iraq-war

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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:31 PM

1. The Obamacare launch wasn't even a failure, the media up to their usual tricks. Argh!

 

K/R

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:34 PM

2. Tip and Ronnie would have found a bargain! What would Lincoln do? Obama needs a team of rivals!


Itís all such crap, and to me, it demeans the entire human experience. Confronting complicated problems isnít easy for anyone, no matter how much Churchillian resolve or Burkean restrain or Washingtonian patriotism or Lincolnian grit they have.

Sometimes things are just fucked up, and you could easily argue that weíre lucky to have people like Obama and, yes, even Boehner (he could be a lot worse) mostly trying to avert catastrophe. Who knows what Lincoln would do if he were in Obamaís shoes? All we know is how he handled the last southern uprisingÖand frankly I donít think Bobo and Ron Fournier would find Shermanís march to the sea so leadershipy and compromisy if it happened today.

Itís fun to imagine that the Great Americans of yore could solve all our problems if they came back from the grave. But pointless fantasizing is a retreat from reality. So is Niall Ferguson-style counterfactual historicizing.

Itís a mark of decadence and decline that so many elites waste their time wanking about things that didnít happen and things that will never happen instead of reporting accurately on what is happening.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/10/23/isnt-it-pretty-to-think-so/

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:34 PM

3. All I can say is that the ACA must be damaging the bottom line of........

some GOP owner.
Disreputable as they are the GOP has given extra effort to find every thing and anything wrong with the ACA.
False equivalences, misrepresentation and out right lying are known "republican family values."
Should, a year from now, ACA prove successful and well liked it will be nothing less than the first step toward single payer.

That is what the GOP sponsors are most worried about.

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