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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:19 PM Oct 2013

Justice Scalia: Government is the minister of God with powers to "avenge" to "execute wrath" 2002

That statement is in the first two minutes of a Theocracy Watch video from 2006. This is a Supreme Court Justice saying those things.


Antonin Scalia

Justice Scalia: Government is the minister of God with powers to "avenge" to "execute wrath"



Joan Bokaer of Cornell University's Theocracy Watch gives a rundown on the growing danger of Dominionism, also known as Christian Reconstructionism, the ideology behind the scenes of Christian extremism in the United States and abroad. An important video for anyone who wants to understand the motives of the American Taliban and what's happening to American politics.


She quotes the words of Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court in this video about Dominionism.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia 2002:
"Government...derives its moral authority from God. It is the minister of God with powers to "avenge" to "execute wrath" including even wrath by the sword."

First Things May 2002




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Justice Scalia: Government is the minister of God with powers to "avenge" to "execute wrath" 2002 (Original Post) madfloridian Oct 2013 OP
God is not amused. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #1
Neither am I. madfloridian Oct 2013 #2
The Evil that Lies Amonst Us...I'd say back at him. KoKo Oct 2013 #3
That was a shameful time in our country. madfloridian Oct 2013 #14
Good to have this brought up again since he said it in 2002. enough Oct 2013 #4
That video is the only place I have seen it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #9
Oh Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch! n/t hootinholler Oct 2013 #5
LOL's KoKo Oct 2013 #10
Pontius Pilate probably believed that also... n/t ljm2002 Oct 2013 #6
He also believes in the Devil who is with us... KoKo Oct 2013 #7
How can an idiot like that wind up on the Supreme Court? nt ladjf Oct 2013 #8
Mass Break Down in THE FORCE? KoKo Oct 2013 #11
Because he was nominated by an idiot (Ronald Reagan) Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #13
he needs help. one. sick. puppy. spanone Oct 2013 #12
He's quoting Paul's letter to the Romans. Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #15
Bill Maher: Antonin Scalia And Michele Bachmann Are 'The Exact Same Idiot' jsr Oct 2013 #16

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. The Evil that Lies Amonst Us...I'd say back at him.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:32 PM
Oct 2013


I forget who put Scalia Forward for Nomination to the Supreme Court. Gotta's do a Wiki...

But, I never Forgave Joe Biden for ushering through Clarence Thomas and cutting off the witness that could Verify Anita Hill's Testimony about Clarence.

So...I must have been doing other things in my life with Scalia Nomination and how that went through.

enough

(13,256 posts)
4. Good to have this brought up again since he said it in 2002.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

The fact that this never even warranted a blip on the screen of the media pundits and analysts is one of the most frightening elements of our current situation. The pronouncement is outrageous.

Thanks.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. That video is the only place I have seen it.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:03 PM
Oct 2013

I even did a search on his article where he made that statement....no luck at all.

You are right...never a blip on the media screen.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. LOL's
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:06 PM
Oct 2013

He needs trailer hitched to his own backside...

HEY..just Kidding NSA! It's just a figure of Speech!

I have neither a Trailer or Hitch...but, I can Dream Can't I? Is that against the NSA RULES for Reporting to the POLITBORO!

Once a Scalia get's into the Power Bubble...he just can't escape. With that many Children he has to make sure they all GET the RICHES they DESERVE...the Devil or Not!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. He also believes in the Devil who is with us...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:45 PM
Oct 2013
LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - "I even believe in the Devil," and "yeah, he's a real person," Scalia said in an interview for New York magazine, published on October 6.

"Hey, come on, that's standard Catholic doctrine," Scalia said, who is Catholic. "Every Catholic believes that."


Scalia has served on the high court for 27 years. When asked what evidence there is of the Devil in today's world, he said, "You know, it's curious. In the Gospels, the Devil is doing all sorts of things. He's making pigs run off cliffs, he's possessing people and whatnot. And that doesn't happen much anymore."

"It's because he's smart," the justice said. "What he's doing now is getting people not to believe in him or in God. He's much more successful that way."

Scalia explained that atheism was not the "Devil's work," but said that atheism, or a non-belief in God "certainly favors the Devil's desires."

"I mean, come on, that's the explanation for why there's not demonic possession all over the place," Scalia said. "That always puzzled me. What happened to the Devil, you know? He used to be all over the place. He used to be all over the New Testament."

When asked,"Isn't it frightening to believe in the Devil?" Scalia declared "You're looking at me as though I'm weird. My God! Are you so out of touch with most of America, most of which believes in the Devil? I mean, Jesus Christ believed in the Devil! It's in the Gospels. You travel in circles that are so, so removed from mainstream America that you are appalled that anybody would believe in the Devil! Most of mankind has believed in the Devil, for all of history. Many more intelligent people than you or me have believed in the Devil."


http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=52692

Scalia was nominated to the Supreme Court by President Ronald Reagan and was confirmed by the Senate as an associate justice in September 1986. He is considered one of solid conservatives on the court. Holding degrees from Georgetown University, the University of Fribourg, and Harvard Law School, he is married and the father of nine children.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. Because he was nominated by an idiot (Ronald Reagan)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:38 PM
Oct 2013

who at the time had an idiotic (Republican) Senate to rubberstamp the nominee.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
15. He's quoting Paul's letter to the Romans.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:21 AM
Oct 2013

The first part of Romans 13 to be precise:

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

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