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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI 'unfriended' a teabagger today and she writes in a message afterwards:
"So the Democrats espouse acceptance of others, open minds, tolerance, blah, blah but woe to anyone who disagrees with them. I've found most "liberals" to be the most closed minded people ever. You've been blathering political crap for weeks, post after deragutory (sic) post, name calling, & finger pointing. Now someone has a different opinion & you can't tolerate it. Bless your heart. I'll miss your (funny shit I post) but not you shoving your liberal agenda down everyone's throat. So typical....your way or the highway....... Who practices tolerance & acceptance? Certainly NOT you.....At least I'm not so childish or petty to "unfriend" someone because they were of a different opinion than me. Pitiful."
She is so stupid she can't even see the irony of her heroes destroying our government: 'our way or the highway.'
ON EDIT: I had posted a synopsis of an earlier DU post that someone so thoughtfully wrote, about being looked at 'askance' because they were using EBT/food stamps. Here's what ensued with several of my friends joining in (names redacted). It was just shocking to me:
TEABAG LADY: No doubt this is true however there are many who "work" the system & abuse it. The ugly looks may have come from someone also economizing to extremes, & doing without, & paying tax out the yin-yang to keep up the frauds. Two sides to every story.....That person should teach classes in nutrition. She (?) obviously knows how to prepare healthy, wholesome, economical meals. That sort of thing was once taught in Home Ec classes. Not anymore.....I used to see food stamp users buy "approved" foods with the paper script back when used and then pay cash for beer & cigarettes. I kept a running tab on my little calculator when shopping. When I reached my budget limit & needed more, I'd go thru the buggy & put back "non-essential" items like cookies or trade out cheaper cuts of meat, or soft drinks so I had enough for bread & milk. It mad me mad to see tattooed ($$$$), smoking, beer drinking food stamp users buying extras with cash & essentials with script. I saw this in school with free lunch. Kids had cash for the extras (no longer sold in school due to new nutrition reg) like ice cream, cookies, canned drinks & throw the free lunch paid for with my taxes in the garbage. I personally witnesssd both kinds of abuse. .....two sides to every story!
A REAL FRIEND it makes me weep. i don't understand how a person's heart cannot hurt for people in these circumstances and for those who are even less fortunate. There's this thing called grace, and as a Christian I know that it is to be extended at all times, regardless of the circumstances. So what if others abuse the system. That doesn't make this person any more or less deserving. God bless him/her and Christ have mercy.
TEABAG LADY:
Weep away....I did not say I don't have empathy for this person in the story. I have unemployed friends who are in the same boat. I don't begrudge them one bit for any help they avail themselves to as they struggle to find employment . ....It's the frauds who anger me. And more than just "hurt for the people", I put my money where my mouth is. In addition to "feeling sorry" for these "less fortunate" folks I routinely support ($$$) various hunger relief efforts through my church & by volunteering.
A REAL FRIEND: God bless you for your charitable and humble heart
TEABAG LADY:
I don't brag .....most people, other than my fellow volunteers, even know. I just don't like sanctimonious preachy people. Go in Grace!
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)are going there.
treestar
(82,383 posts)can't tolerate a difference of opinion reflected in the vote that passed the ACA and made it impossible for them to repeal it.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)wrong.
And your friend's post looks an awful lot like some of my FB frenemies
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)but she probably doesn't care.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)for things going down their throats?
pscot
(21,024 posts)They fell deeply disrespected. Not saying they don't deserve it, just that cutting her plays into a widely shared feeling among the Believers. As long as she hasn't injured you personally, why push her back into her corner.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...failure to smile big enough at the prospect of beating one's head against a brick wall.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)When some racist/homophbic fuckstick tries to play the "victim card" by claiming that we're being "closed minded" for not accepting that hateful behavior and opinions.
Clearly we owe al-Queda a huge apology for not being more tolerant and accepting of their desire to kill us all.
Friggin' morons.
And here's the thing. With the internet, we'll never be free from their asshat opinions. We're stuck listening to this idiot drivel for all eternity.
I'll get you for this, Al Gore. As god as my witness, I'll get you for this.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I have gone out of my way to avoid signing up for Facebook. I would think that having political debates on Facebook would lead to unnecessary conflict.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)Probably some of both!
fitman
(482 posts)Don't discuss politics..or religion.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)I don't do politics with friends or have litmus tests fir friendship. Politics aren't the center of my word and I enjoy friendship with a diverse group of people.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)I don't like facebook, it's fine for keeping in touch with real family and friends.
But I think facebook is used by people with bad intentions and outright criminals shopping for a mark, all the time.
eilen
(4,950 posts)it's the new "some of my best friends are black/gay/Mexican" or whichever group they are stereotyping and dissing -- Oh, I might sound like an utter sociopath asshole but I really do care and my pious religious social interactions prove it...."
I'm like yah, you're a real Motha Theresa....
I hear this kind of shit all the time at work. That and the ubiquitous "SNAP cards should require drug tests." I work in a hospital. They (administration and staff) like to complain of every reason they can't give a raise or do something they used to on the ACA. (funny how that doesn't stop them from building more facilities).
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)that too few real people live up to. I have decided to unfriend several of the people who only post wingnut lies on FB. I am tired of seeing it all....and they refuse to discuss the facts. Life is too short.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)I have told every teabagger to drop dead
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)Warpy
(111,245 posts)are generally there for very good reasons.
I don't want to reconnect with any of them, thanks.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)You put a late-middle aged guy and a Stepford Wife on TV and both of them assert (repeatedly) that all Chinese people throw ice cream at their dogs...
...now Chinese Canine Dairy Treat Projecti-nihilism is a valid debate topic... and everyone is entitled to their opinion... all points of view on the subject must be given equal weight save one...
...the hard proof that Chinese Canine Dairy Treat Projecti-nihilism is a complete fallacy.
This is how the media hijacks the language of dissent.
The ways I see phrases like "critical thinking" and "open-minded" used to defend total fantasies makes me want to hurl.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Life is so much more than politics. I have friends accross the political spectrum. On those with whom I disagree on politics I talk about other common interests. Flower gardens, hunting, poker, funny stories from our childhoods, stories from our times in the military (if they are a vet), weather, science, trucking stories (If they have been a trucker) etc. I don't allow politics to draw a fence around my life.
lanlady
(7,134 posts)Just curious because she seems to be lecturing you on what you should or should not post on your page. I get these complaints all the time from my Kool-Aid drinking, Obama-loathing brother. He'll post some vicious venom on my FB page then gets angry at me for "suppressing his free speech" when I delete his posts.
The way I see it, everyone is free to control the content of his or her FB page. If I find a post offensive or contrary to my values, I delete it. Yesterday a co-worker posted some garbage from breitbart.com which I deleted from my page in 5 seconds flat. Let him go spew bullshit on his own page, not mine.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)stupidity. Moot point now, as she's 'gone.'
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)One who had been a friend for 20 years was repeating the talking points so often it just drove me nuts.
The other one was a Libertarian who always complained about people with food stamps buying stuff they shouldn't.
I wanted to make a point about grace and Christianity. Personally I lean toward being agnostic (I wouldn't say completely, but partially. I self-identify as a Protestant).
You can't teach a Christian how to act if they don't want to acknowledge what the duty of their faith is. It is their fault for being judgmental and ignorant. They are the ones who should be hoping for grace from their bad behavior. In short, if you are going to say you are a Christian, act like it.
ejpoeta
(8,933 posts)they are christian don't tend to act like it and that is why they have to keep telling everyone they are. I have known a lot of these folks in my life. they seem to be very judgemental.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)It's all right here. Peruse the thing if you have not seen it yet, it's VERY informative. I read it twice.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)I read that piece. Very thorough... very enlightening.
No sleep for a while.
A good chunk of this country is totally Bat-Shit Crazy... and that's the scientific term.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)I've just started taking offensive posts off my own walls so I don't have to see them any more.
FB asks - WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
I find it offensive and/or annoying is about the only reason that fits.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)when they give their money to the church. If it's a megachuch, they're delusional. They're giving it to the business enterprise that is that church and, other than taking up donations of actual food twice a year on Thanksgiving and Xmas, those churches do not feed the hungry.
You want to see churches that actually do it, look at the small, poor churches in the inner cities, not the big glitzy ones in the higher priced burbs. Glitz costs.
Teabag lady needs to know pride goeth before a fall, and her incredibly smug attitude about supporting her church instead of actually feeding the hungry is going to bite her in the butt one of these days.
ffr
(22,669 posts)There's not enough time in the day to present rebuttals and you know as well as I do, that no rebuttal, however good and thoughtful will convince the unconvincible. Their brains do not work deductively like that of normal people. Your time, you life can be better spent bettering the rest of the world around you.
Who knows, maybe you'll run across her in the future, where you're doing something positive for society and repairing the harm that her wrath is bringing.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)I don't need to play that silly game of "friends" or "unfriends". That shit is for teenagers.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)It's childish, on both sides.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- for this very reason. During the last election there were a few friends that I had to adjust what I saw from them. I didn't delete them, I just made it so that I hardly saw anything they posted. After the election, I changed it back so I could see their posts.
Facebook is a way for me to keep in touch with friends and family. There are tons of other places to discuss politics.
egold2604
(369 posts)Everyone should be aware of the Dominionist movement among the tea party. They are down on the poor because in their perverted view of Christianity (Calvinism on Steroids), the very wealthy are wealthy because they are good grace with God and God has made them wealthy. The poor are not in good grace with God and should be kept in their place until they get back into God's grace so they can become wealthy.
Their world view is minimal Government other than a very large bloated military which will be used to attack the rest of the world and force their form of Christianity on the rest of the world. The only law then allowed would be Biblical Law. Women are disenfranchised and not allowed to work and must subjugate themselves to their husbands dictates.
These people are extremely dangerous. They don't care about the economic ramifications of the Government shutdown or potential debt default. It will about bring the end times.
I still say I should get a Tee-Shirt made at CafePress saying
The rapture happened last year. Why are you still here?
Javaman
(62,521 posts)they think that there are "frauds" under every rock. When in reality the amount of people who defraud the government of funds in programs such as unemployment and welfare are less then 1% of those seeking those funds.
it's the willful disregard of the baggers to ignore facts and stats and preferring to listen to fox news blathers for their information that drives their ignorance of reality.
this is why I have zero patience for them.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)she has a point.
I've seen enough "Liberals" right here at DU unfriend Conservative Facebook friends/relatives.
I've seen enough of them proclaim that they would NEVER be friends with Republicans.
I've seen enough of them proudly proclaim how they called out someone in a store or other public place for the "sin" of expressing their opinions, and I've seen tons of people jump into those threads to give high fives for doing it.
Let's see...intolerance and control...how about when "Liberals" walk into a business and TELL the owners what channel they should be broadcasting on their own televisions? Hey, if it's your home, you get to choose what's on. When you're out in public, you don't.
I've been insulted by more Democrats/"Liberals" right here at DU for having a different opinion that I ever have by Republicans/Conservatives.
Imagine that...being a Democrat on a message board for Democrats and having fellow DUers call you an idiot, jerk, telling you to fuck off, or any one of a dozen other nasty things. And why? For having a different opinion.
While I don't agree with her statement that Liberals are the most closed-minded people ever, I do think she's entirely justified in pointing out a certain level of hypocrisy.
As a Democrat myself, it shames me to see this hypocrisy in action.