Bachmann: 'End Times' Are Coming

[Cali_Democrat]

Bachmann: 'End Times' Are Coming Because Obama Is Supporting Al-Qaeda
October 7, 2013, 6:00 PM EDT



Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) claims the end of days is near, and as proof the former Republican presidential candidate cited President Barack Obama's decision last month to support Syrian rebels, which she calls al-Qaeda terrorists, with anti-chemical weapons gear and limited arms.

“This happened and as of today the United States is willingly, knowingly, intentionally sending arms to terrorists, now what this says to me, I’m a believer in Jesus Christ, as I look at the End Times scripture, this says to me that the leaf is on the fig tree and we are to understand the signs of the times, which is your ministry, we are to understand where we are in God’s end times history," Bachmann told Jan Markell, radio host of "Understanding the Times," on Saturday.

“Rather than seeing this as a negative, we need to rejoice, Maranatha Come Lord Jesus, His day is at hand,” Bachmann added later. “And so when we see up is down and right is called wrong, when this is happening, we were told this; that these days would be as the days of Noah. We are seeing that in our time. Yes it gives us fear in some respects because we want the retirement that our parents enjoyed. Well they will, if they know Jesus Christ.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bachmann-end-times-are-coming-because-obama-is-supporting-al-qaeda

Holy fucking shit. I don't even know what to say.

[B Calm]

1. Yeah, the end of the Republican party!!

PARTY, PARTY!!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. we can only hope.

she really believes this shit. that is the most amazing part.

[Swede Atlanta]

39. Sometimes I wonder......

There are definitely enough of the whacko righties that believe in all their hocus-pocus religious stuff. But I am convinced that many of the politicians that publicly espouse this and even the big-haired televangelists are just opportunists. They see a vulnerable population that will believe whatever crap comes out of your mouth if accompanied by the words Jesus Christ.

I still see some of these as being nothing more than shills that use religion as a way to gain power and control over the lives of weak-minded people.

[Voice for Peace]

113. the other side of that.. when people live lives of cheat and deceit

They become frightened people.
It is a terrifying way to live, as a liar.

It invokes an unconscious terror.
People may be cheery and bold on
the outside, but there is gnawing
unease, disease, for liars.

Truth itself becomes frightening. Dark vague
shadows, made of lies, haunt the psyche.

The drug for fear is religion.

Put all the responsibiilty on a God of
one's own invention.

Then you don't have to face yourself.

They don't get the concept of natural law,
karma.

[Cha]

119. I know what you mean.. I think it's a big scam to bring on the crazies but

she could surprise me. roflmao

[kardonb]

62. hope

totally delusional nutcase ; why are we still paying attention to her inane pronouncements ? Total oblivion is all she deserves .

[Shrike47]

58. That's what I was thinking, end of HER times.

[roguevalley]

60. from your lips to god's ears, darling strike47

[TheDebbieDee]

22. When keeping it real religious goes wrong......

Stuff like this is the main reason that I have come too believe that they are strictly money-making enterprises that use power and fear to sway people into obeying.

I believe that a higher being exists but I wouldn't give 2 shits for ANY religion.....or what it says about God!

Although, I must say, I do like this new Pope! He seems to really like people and wants to bring them into his fold rather than scare them away. But he could be faking, too - time will tell......

[TxDemChem]

48. +1,000,000,000

[Heather MC]

32. "A brown man will rule the nation"

Back in 2008 before the election a black Christian woman told me that she was not going to Vote for Obama because the bible says one of the signs of the end of times is that a Brown man will rule the nations

True story, A lot of Christians believe this. infact her batshit crazy pastor was preaching on it. That is why a lot of these people are so freaked out about President Obama.

Of course I had to point out to her that at the time the bible was written the US didn't exist and it's hardly ruling "the Nations" if he is the President of ONE country. She said,"Ohhhh" SMH

[silvershadow]

51. Do they mean brown like Jesus? nt

[Heather MC]

54. I have been in her house she had the "White Guy" on the wall she believes is Jesus

It hurts the brain to try and figure it out

[bvar22]

127. Like this Blue Eyed Surfer Guy with a good tan?

[font size=1]Mural in Downtown Minneapolis, 2005

[IrishAyes]

94. If most fundies (really another name for racists most of the time) ever met the real Jesus or saw a

true depiction, they'd try to burn him at the stake for a heretic. He'd look far too Middle Eastern to suit them. And he certainly didn't come to save the Jews from taxation as Bill O'Reilly now claims. He had a 'revelation' one night too. Either he's lying or he was hung over, most likely.

[IrishAyes]

91. A brown man will rule the nations? Where did her pastor get that nonsense?

Not from any Bible translation I've ever read. A brown man might one day rule the nations - or a black or a white one - but it has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible proper. People have been predicting the end of the world for millenia and we're still here. Meanwhile those liars have caused absolute panics where people sold or gave away everything they had, then sat in the middle of the road waiting for the Second Coming. When it didn't happen, some of them really lost their minds, believing themselves to have been 'left behind' or they killed themselves. And/or maybe the supposed cleric who snookered them and ruined their lives.

[Heather MC]

95. I am Atheist I never bothered to look up the scripture I just know that's what she believes

And that's what she told me

[IrishAyes]

99. Well, you sure don't want to believe anything she says!

There's no such Bible verse that I know of in any decent translation. Regardless, although I'm a practicing cradle Catholic, I'd rather stand next to you on Judgement Day anytime instead of her. I have a healthy respect for lightning bolts.

[Enthusiast]

125. It's not in there.

That's a fabrication.

[Arugula Latte]

158. But, really, for that matter why would you believe anything in the Bible...

It's a book of mythology written by an ancient people. You might as well "believe" in the Epic of Gilgamesh or stories about Zeus.

[Nonhlanhla]

181. I've never met a Christian who believed this

I studied theology and I know a LOT of Christians from all over the world and from a variety of different churches. Including crazy fundies. And I've never heard of this "prophecy."

Of course, Christianity does teach that Jesus rules the world, and he was decidedly Obama-ish in skin tone... So maybe that's what these crazies have in mind, LOL!

[Roy Rolling]

45. End times?

I really like the armchair prophets who say the end times are near, quoting from the Bible which says no one knows when the end times will happen.

[riqster]

88. Yeah, funny how they skip past that bit.

[left on green only]

2. Enter Sarah Palin's Only Competition In The Word Salad Category. n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

175. HA! No kidding!

[adirondacker]

4. Yikes! She's reminding me of the woman of Cooper's Dell in the movie Red State.

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[BumRushDaShow]

5. I am glad that someone provided the perfect illustration

of her.

[arcane1]

6. I literally laughed out loud at that picture.

[Zorra]

7. It's Rapturepalooza! nt

[Blaukraut]

8. And that actually got elected to congress. Scary n/t

[DisgustipatedinCA]

9. Her indictment is still scheduled to drop before the end times get here. Sorry, Michelle. n/t

[Coyotl]

10. Might as well shut down your government. Won't need that.

You'll know they believe this shit when they give away their money because they won't be needing that either

[lunasun]

68. the worst imo is how much they ignore the environment becuz they are leaving soon +Janitor Jesus

will save them and clean up to make things right :googly
: hallelujah all

[Coyotl]

106. They do know the transporters on Star Trek are fiction, right?

Living an imaginary existence, they believe they are off to a perfect metaphysical realm for an eternity after dying, all the while clueless about the complexities of life in the real world.

[malaise]

11. Wait for the feds and her campaign finances

End times are coming for that corrupt lunatic

[ProSense]

12. "Holy fucking shit. I don't even know what to say."

Probably best to have a screwdriver on hand whenever she opens her mouth.

Still, there's no guarantee that tigthen the loose screw will make any difference.

[MyshkinCommaPrince]

13. The leaf is on the fig tree?

Is that a thing?

[Dragonfli]

35. One would think a tree would require leaves to survive, even fig trees

I wonder if she thinks she is helping the trees on her property by removing all the evil leaves that appear on them.
Hard to understand the insane, best not to even try I suppose.

[SaveAmerica]

40. Like the rose petal from Beauty and the Beast, she's sitting by her fig tree

and waiting. She's probably pulling them off herself.

[SaveAmerica]

42. Frost is on the pumpkin?

[Thor_MN]

115. Bad!!!

Do not make me think of that little ditty and that ditsy!!!

[SaveAmerica]

116. Sowwy! Also to James Taylor (it is almost that time of year, though!)

Let's make a good thing of this crazy B's quote.

[Thor_MN]

120. Agreed, but I'm now thinking you were not going for the same source that I thought

I had thought of something that starts:

In the summer, when it's hot and sticky

[Arugula Latte]

160. This is what I associate with that phrase ... aaaaand this is how I learned to hate country music:

She said. "Hello country bumpkin, how's the frost down on the pumpkin?
I've seen some sights, but man you're somethin',
Where'd you come from country bumpkin?"

[Thor_MN]

179. OK, mine is considerably more... colorful...

[JBoy]

65. It's the parable of the budding fig tree.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_budding_fig_tree

Except she's using in reverse. Seeing the budding fig tree is supposed to mean end times are near. She starts by assuming end times are near, therefore the fig tree is about to bud.

Smelling pizza makes me hungry. But just because I'm hungry doesn't mean there's a pizza nearby.

[Moostache]

77. The chair is against the wall...

John has a long mustache...

(And a healthy shout out to any other fans of "Red Dawn"...at least the original and not the excremental remake!!!)

[Ruby the Liberal]

79. Yah - its a parable.

Luke 21:29-31

The Lesson of the Fig Tree

29 And he told them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. As soon as they come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and know that the summer is already near. So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the kingdom of God is near."

[Recursion]

123. Oh, good catch. My mind went to the cursing of the tree in Mark

But you're definitely right.

[panader0]

131. That quote got me too.

[johnp3907]

14. She's right.

End times for her party.

[elehhhhna]

15. obviously referring to her career and "marriage"

[Lint Head]

16. She not only represents the end of the Republican party, she represents the stupid ass end.

[Maraya1969]

17. Why didn't it end during the Holocaust or with Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

[freshwest]

18. Yes it gives us fear in some respects because we want the retirement that our parents enjoyed.

Really? She wants a government pension? I mean, REALLY?!

And here all this time I thought she believed that the evil USA government was set up by Luciferian bankers or something.

She said same sax marriage = volcanoes erupting to destroy the world. (Well, not really. That was from a satire piece.)

There's hope for her yet. She will join the collective. Sooon.



And that is a great picture.

[Lifelong Dem]

19. And Obamacare kills women, kills children, and kills senior citizens.

Yep.

[arthritisR_US]

20. "God" sure has idiot spokes people!

[IrishAyes]

96. pssst... I don't think they're his at all.

[arthritisR_US]

101. From what I have seen, I'd have to agree. n/t

[NuclearDem]

23. Sentencing day coming, Michelle?

[Downtown Hound]

24. Hey Michelle,

Did you know that George W. Bush gave the Taliban $40 million in aid when he first took office, well AFTER Bin Laden was wanted for our embassy attacks and they were harboring him?

Oh well, it's only End of Times when it's not a Republican doing it.

[Dragonfli]

44. by the same token the opposite of that is also true unfortunately

I think it would be best not to support any of the fundy militants in places of near perpetual unrest.

It always appears to backfire eventually, temporary allies like those also tend to be temporary enemies given time.

[hatrack]

25. Blahblah rivers of blood blahblah silence in Heaven for half an hour blahblah angels blah

Yeah, that's a well thought-out position on matters of global import - I'll just have some of what ingesting the wrong mushrooms after sitting in a cave on Patmos for twenty years did for St. John.

Who cares if it barely escaped the parchment-cutting room floor at the Council of Nicea? Forty pages of babbling insane bullshit works for me, so it must be true!

[JHB]

26. The guano!/The guano!/It's always/the guano...

...she'll never/fade a-waaaaayyyyyy!

(to the tune of "Tomorrow&quot

[calimary]

73. ROFL!!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Wow, that's really the kind of person you want fielding the nuclear football.

Way to go, crazy-ass GOP.

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. She is forgetting the part of the bible that frowns on "predicting"

My Grandmother always reminded me when these people did this..."like a thief in the night".

[cleanhippie]

132. "These people"? Their interpretation of scripture is just as valid as your grandmothers.

[VanillaRhapsody]

135. No its not...

these people pick and choose. My grandmother was a Presbyterian and told me about her beliefs "I won't know for sure till I get there". So she never condemned any other religions. However, when talking about George Bush saying that God spoke to him....she said "Bullshit" she always attended Church and always taught Sunday School. She talked about these Dominionists...she said they always forget the most important part of the religion. The Sermon on the Mount.....the red letter part of the Bible.

You apparently don't know much about Southern Baptists my friend.

[trotsky]

138. Yeah, it is.

Your grandmother picked & chose too. All Christians do, because there are so many blatant contradictions in the bible, no one could follow everything.

[VanillaRhapsody]

140. No they don't ...

Some Christians do not believe the Bible is the Literal word....Southern Baptists and Dominionists do! They believe in the Old Testament. My grandmother believed the New Testament overrode the Old Testament.

You do know about the Jefferson Bible right? Not all Christians are Dominionists....Do NOT presume to lump my grandmother in with THEM. If she were here she would give you a piece of her mind!

[trotsky]

141. Every Christian believes at least parts of the bible are literal.

Which parts they choose seem to determine what kind of Christian they are - tolerant and kind, or intolerant and judgmental.

But they're still all Christians. And please note, I'm not calling them the SAME, only that they both have equal claim to the label.

[cleanhippie]

139. Ahh, they "pick and choose" what parts they like, huh? And your grandmother didn't, right?

[VanillaRhapsody]

142. My grandmother followed the teachings of Jesus...

She didn't believe the Bible was the inerrant word...

Lump all Christians together at your demise.....they are NOT all alike. She certainly would NOT have judged YOU (judge not lest ye be judged)....but you feel fine with judging HER...

Thomas Jefferson believed Jesus was a very good prophet. You realize that right?

Look up the history of the Jefferson Bible...Thomas Jefferson wrote his own version. Jefferson was a Christian Deist and didn't believe in the "miracles". I wouldn't put him in the same box you built for Michelle Bachmann and Pat Robertson and Fred Phelps would you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

[cleanhippie]

143. So in one sentence you support my claim.

"My grandmother followed the teachings of Jesus, She didn't believe the Bible was the inerrant word"


So she chose to believe only in certain parts of it, right?


I'm not lumping or attacking. I'm showing that the one trait that ALL Christians share is that they choose to believe the parts of the bible that support their own views.

Yes, even your grandmother.

[VanillaRhapsody]

145. The NEW Testament...

because the Old Testament is Jewish Law...and she wasn't Jewish!

NO not ALL Christians ARE the same. She was a "Christian" that followed the teachings of Jesus Christ. You know the very point of the entire movement? As did Thomas Jefferson...

It's not about "certain parts" to them...its about the underlying message being taught by a prophet. The core being the Sermon on the Mount. And apparently YOU don't even know what THAT is.

You should educate yourself more about Christians before you go around making shit up about them.

[cleanhippie]

146. So she chooses the New Testament, a PART of the bible.

And does she follow and believe EVERYTHING in the NT? Everything? You're sure about that?

[VanillaRhapsody]

148. You obviously know NOTHING about Christianity...

The New Testament and Old Testaments are NOT ONE....these are two books....Mormons believe they have a Third Testament.

She didnt believe it was the literal word of God...many Do! She believed in allegory...Therefore your theory is false...

The Old Testament is DIRECT JEWISH Law coming straight from the Torah...written BEFORE Jesus Christ (you know the whole reason FOR the religion)....She followed Christ...not Jewish Law.

You should really know more about the nuances of the Religion before you speak about it. One thing you don't seem to know is....the Bible is not ONE book. It is a collection of books written by different authors...

In fact there were other books considered and not included in the "library" called The Bible.

[cleanhippie]

149. So you are telling me two things: she only believes the NT, and she believes all of it.

Do we really need to go through a laundry list of absurdities, contradictions, cruelty, violence, misogyny, and intolerance found in the NT that you woul likely say your grandmother did not believe?

[VanillaRhapsody]

150. She never said ALL of it was true..

do not get that? Your attempt to find a way to box in ALL Christians is an Epic Fail. By the way...it was written by many authors...you understand that right? It's not one book...

[cleanhippie]

151. So she chooses only PARTS of the NT now?

You're not being consistent here, friend. Not at all. Neither is your grandmother as you have described her. This proving my point.

[VanillaRhapsody]

162. She chose to follow a prophet....not a book

understand?

No it's not proving your point at all. The center of her beliefs wasn't "the library of books" at all. Do you have to believe every word that is in your public library? Or if not....do you not believe in libraries?

If this is your theory....you are going to be very surprised what the REAL Christian Taliban thinks....You my friend are barking up the wrong tree! You better educate yourself and learn to distinguish very fast...

[cleanhippie]

163. Hahahaha. Ok. The bible is not the basis of belief in Jesus for your grandmother.

Thanks for the conversation.

[VanillaRhapsody]

164. No it's not...

nor was it for Thomas Jefferson...See the Jefferson Bible to understand why.

[cleanhippie]

165. Except your first post said that she did rely on the bible.

28. She is forgetting the part of the bible that frowns on "predicting"
My Grandmother always reminded me when these people did this..."like a thief in the night"

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth, friend, and a rational conversation is impossible. Again, thanks for the conversation so far, I'll take my leave now.

[VanillaRhapsody]

166. It's not about relying on it...Do you believe everything you read in every book?

You don't understand religion at all do you? You want to put them all in a little box with a bow on top. But it's just not that simple. You seem to have trouble with nuance...Apparently you are like the Talibaptists who have trouble with grey areas! You want to put all spiritual people in a nice little well defined box. But that won't work....sorry.

[cleanhippie]

167. During this discussion, you have repeatedly attacked me personally.

And you seem very angry, so were done. I guess your grandmother taught you very little.
Have a nice day!

[VanillaRhapsody]

168. You attacked my dead Grandmother's beliefs...AS IF

you knew anything about them (a dead woman)....I have proven you do not.

FYI she taught me plenty...first of all not to disparage someone else's beliefs. Someone should have taught that to you

YOU have a nice day yourself!

[cleanhippie]

169. Questioning beliefs is not attacking a person.

But you're impervious to reason, so there's no need to attempt to educate you on that.

[VanillaRhapsody]

174. You didn't "question them" you disparaged them

big difference. You said it unequivocally. Another failure on your part.

[cleanhippie]

183. So you agree that it was her beliefs, not your grandmother that was the issue.

Beliefs are not special. They deserve no protection. If you want to hold contradictory and absurd beliefs, that is your right. It's also my right to question them when you put them out in the public domain, on a public discussion board, for others to comment on.
I commented, as is my right to do so. If you feel that I broke from the Community Standards then send an alert. Perhaps I should alert on all of your personal attacks you made against me.
For the next time you choose to respond in a public discussion forum, try not to make it, or take it, personally. You will have a much better experience.
Good luck! And have a nice day.

[VanillaRhapsody]

184. I said nothing of the sort...and you didn't "question them"...you flat out insulted them.

You want so badly to make ALL religious folks the same. And my deceased Grandmother proves you wrong!

yeah...good luck to you...you need it.

[cleanhippie]

185. I "insulted" them? Get a grip, dude.

And YOUR interpretation of your grandmothers interpretation of the bible proves only that you have missed the entire point of this conversation.

And if you feel if I am "insulting" your beliefs, why do you keep responding to me? Just stop already if this makes you uncomfortable.

[VanillaRhapsody]

187. Not a dude...

and yes...lumping my Grandmother in with Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin...IS an insult.

I am certainly not uncomfortable excoriating the likes of YOU!

Much to your chagrin...NOT ALL Christians are the same.

I have 2 words for you:

Jimmy Carter.

[cleanhippie]

189. Then get a grip, madam.

The only thing linking your grannies and Bachman and Palin (not sure why you're adding her to this) are......they are ALL Christians. Yep, that's right. Christian. They believe in Jesus, god, and the bible. And while their INTERPRETATIONS of their religious beliefs certainly differ by wide margins, they ARE all Christians. Sorry to be the one to break that to you.
Being a Christian is not a negative. I never said it was. But to refuse to acknowledge that they all pick and choose what parts of the bible are true for them is intellectual dishonesty on your part.
And your not excoriating me, you are venting your frustration at being unable to grasp the larger concept being discussed here.
I'll stick around and continue to try and help you understand it if you want.

[VanillaRhapsody]

190. No YOU want to put them all in a nice little box....

Denied!

[cleanhippie]

191. They are already in it, madam.

Confirmed.

[AAO]

29. Happy for you, Batshit!

[Mojo Electro]

30. Do tell us more, Mrs Bachmann.

It's all so captivating.

[calimary]

74. Welcome to DU, Mojo Electro!

Glad you're here! Yeah, I can't wait to hear more from that particular "MENSA member".

[Mojo Electro]

80. Thanks!

[Dragonfli]

31. There they go again, trying to Immanentize the eschaton

Premillennialism is a sick and dangerous obsession with these fundy types.

[KamaAina]

129. Fnord!

[Dragonfli]

130. .

[intaglio]

152. She neads to consult the Dealey Lama

and possibly some go speak to some gorillas

[Dragonfli]

161. I think I have the information to a gorilla counseling service that may be able to help her

Their rates are more than reasonable and they accept the usual flax as payment. I will dig up the card and send it to her, I am sure that a woman of her means should have no trouble gathering a pound of flax for some real help that may change her life.

[stillcool]

33. I don't get it..

Have my reading comprehension skills failed me, or do those words strung together mean nothing?

[AtheistCrusader]

37. "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

34. "End Times" for HER.

The legal issues in Iowa and the Congressional Ethics complaints will probably get her before she can "retire" in 2014.

[mwooldri]

86. Definitely her political career....

...at most 15 months left in Congress.

She is so right... for describing herself.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

36. Don't forget - Bachman loves Al Qaeda and has said she thinks the U.S. deserved 9-11

Specifically, she said the terrorists were carrying out 'God's judgement' on the nation for not being wingnutty enough:

On Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) told a group of conservative lawmakers gathered for a prayer event that the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 and the siege of the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, Libya were “the hand of judgment” from God. According to Right Wing Watch, the event, held in the Capitol’s Statuary Hall, was called “Washington: A Man of Prayer.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/10/bachmann-911-and-banghazi-attacks-were-judgment-from-god/

You know who else thought the terrorists were carrying out God's judgement?

This guy:


As if anyone needed further proof that conservatives loathe America and everything it stands for.

[Scuba]

38. Setting herself up for an insanity plea.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

46. beat me to it. lol

[Amaril]

157. My thought exactly! (n/t)

[NRaleighLiberal]

41. we've seen countless leaves on many fig trees here on vacation....

quite nice looking - some great ripe figs as well.

Oh yes....and Bachmann - batshit crazy doesn't even begin to tell the story.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

43. She's building up an insanity defense for her indictment.

[JoePhilly]

52. Winner!

[cleanhippie]

133. So believing in religious scripture is "insane"?

Not that I disagree.

[meadowlark5]

47. Yeah and won't she be so disappointed

When she finds herself in hell with the whole suicide caucus for all of eternity. And Ted Cruz. And the Koch Bros. And Sarah Palin. And...and...and...

I hope hell has A LOT of room.

[Enrique]

49. all the GOP leaders supported that policy

in fact the most pressure on Obama to arm those rebels came from John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

[MineralMan]

50. Well, they are coming for you, dearie.

Whatcha gonna do when your term is through?

[Iggo]

147. Police naw give her no break.

Hopefully.

[Owl]

53. If this ain't satire, she needs to be sent for psychiatric treatment STAT.

Oy vey.

[Populist_Prole]

55. If it means her and her ilk go away, I shant complain

For the rest of us, life will go on while they go to la la land.

[Iliyah]

56. Can these people implode already

PLEASE

[marble falls]

57. Funny how the closer to jail they get, the closer G*d they get.

[Jim Warren]

59. She's dangerous

How does this wingnut get elected?

[HooptieWagon]

110. Her constituents....

are probably even more ignorant and wingnuttier than she.

[BlueToTheBone]

61. She must be reading the handwriting on the wall.

Her trial must be getting to her and she knows it is end times for her.

[Thor_MN]

63. Dibs on their cars!!!

I actually live close enough to go pick them up, while also enjoying not being in her district.

[muntrv]

64. As long as it is end of Bachmann's time, I'm ok with it.

[Junkdrawer]

66. 1.) Michele Bachmann is batshit crazy. 2.) The CIA has been supporting al Qaeda and its predecesors

since around 1979.

Both are true.

[rurallib]

67. If you truly,truly believe Michele - give your money and possessions to charity

God will provide.

[angrychair]

69. OMG

Would not talking like this proclude her from office? Talking like this about the president would seem to make her peg out on a threat assessment considering her office allows her speial access.

What a fucking batshit asshat.

[calimary]

70. She's not a believer in Jesus Christ. With her policies and preferences, no way she could be.

She cares NOTHING for "the least of these." They're the ones on whom she turns her back.

[IrishAyes]

97. You pegged it.

[cleanhippie]

134. So she is not a real Christian, is that what you are saying?

[calimary]

195. What I'm saying is - the behavior she exhibits and the things she says all tell me that

she couldn't really believe in Jesus Christ - at least not the Jesus Christ I learned about in 14 years of Catholic school (pre-K to senior year of high school). I was taught that to follow Christ, you had to keep his commandments. Love God. Love thy neighbor as thyself. With special endorsement of the Beatitudes and those little items tucked into the book of Matthew and elsewhere about "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to Me."

THAT'S why I say she can't possibly be a true Christian. She can certainly claim that she is. I'm not supposed to be judgmental, either, mind you. She can go ahead and wrap herself around the Cross of Christ all day every day and 30 times on Sunday. And we all know she does as often as possible, especially when there are cameras and microphones nearby. But the values she vocalizes and preaches to her followers strike me as ANYTHING but what Jesus taught. She thinks it's just fine to shit on the least of these - the poor, the homeless, the sick, the abandoned, the "wretched refuse" as it were - the same ones who are mentioned on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty in that "Give me your tired, your poor..." poem.

Just silly little stupid stuff like that...

[cleanhippie]

196. While I understand your point, you still seem to be saying that she is not a true Christian

Because she doesn't follow the parts of the religion that you do.

Yes, she is a terrible person.
Yes, her ideas are destructive and devisive.
Yes, she cares little for those less fortunate than her.

Yes, after all that, she is still a Christian.

[calimary]

197. I think the point in all those New Testament stories quoting Jesus Christ -

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- was that talk is cheap. You can SAY you believe in and follow Jesus Christ. But turning your back on those He regarded as the most important (the poor, the destitute, the homeless, the sick, the abandoned) speaks a lot louder than your hollow words.

Heck, even Paul-the-Hardass conceded as much in 1 Corinthians. Yes, he who also thundered to people about how they can't eat if they don't work - ALSO said if you talk the talk but don't walk the walk, you're no better than a noisy gong and a clanging cymbal.

If I may...

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/15/the_religious_right_is_a_fraud_nothing_christian_about_michele_bachmanns_values/

It's being discussed elsewhere here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023854355#post3

[mr blur]

193. Ah, the "No True Scotsman" defence!

Someone always wheels it out.

[YOHABLO]

71. Maybe The Teabaggers and her will be raptured the hell out of here. Hurry!

[PatrynXX]

72. well yeah true but

not the way she thinks it is.

[Ikonoklast]

75. 5150

[GoCubsGo]

76. Yes. They are coming, but not the way you think, you whacko.

The only "end times" are going to be the end times of her freedom. This lunatic is under investigation and could very well end up in prison. She certainly belongs there.

[appleannie1]

78. Crazy people on corners with signs have been saying the same thing all my life.

I am no spring chicken by any means.

[indepat]

81. Seriously doubt Jesus Christ is a believer in Michelle Bachmann or the odious brand of Christianity

she peddles purely for political gain.

[Tigress DEM]

90. Thank you.

BUT I don't think she has anything she CAN gain with this. I think she has fully lost her mind.

[indepat]

98. If the eyes mirror the mind and soul, she is bat-shit crazy beyond any reasonable doubt

imo.

[Arugula Latte]

159. So Jesus Christ, a dead guy from 2,000 years ago, is still alive and has a functioning brain?

Sorry, but to a lot of us that sounds just as nutty as what Michelle is spouting.

[Nonhlanhla]

82. Here's my theological evaluation

I am a trained theologian (Ph.D. in theology) and I'm actually teaching the material from the Gospel of Mark that she is referencing tomorrow to my students. So, here is my professional theological evaluation of what she said:

SHE IS BAT...ahem...MANURE CRAZY.

That's all.

[madrchsod]

176. does the word maranatha fit in her word salad?

i looked it up and there were different explanations. nice to see someone with a doctorate in theology here at du. looking forward to reading more of your posts.

[Nonhlanhla]

182. It's one of those words fundies like to throw around

Her talk is so crazy that any word could fit in there, but yeah, "maranatha" sort of fits. It is one of those terms that is used primarily in fundamentalist pentecostal circles. Mainline Christians pretty much never use it. Fundies tend to use it with a certain intonation, almost breathlessly, and it is usually (as far as I remember) in reference to their desire that Christ should come soon.

[libdude]

83. Talking about figs

does Michele Bachman have some insight on fig cookies? I really liked Fig Newtons but have been disappointed with the quality so it has been a while.
Perhaps she was speaking of the end of her days, that is free days if she is found to be involved in the Iowa thing being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Intuition.
I am hopeful that she will gradually move out of the public spotlight as all if us need comic relief every now and then.

[Turbineguy]

84. Well, lets be nice

and put her in an asylum with like-minded individuals for company.

[Rebellious Republican]

85. all of her antics and public mime time tells me me one thing....

She has been given a free pass, the FBI investigation is over (Privately) since there have been no formal statements by anyone. She got away with it folks, the Koch Brothers have insured that, the corporate plutocracy has assured that. We live in a fucking plutocracy, forget the letter by the name, R, I, D. They are all corporate executives with some sort of letter by their name. Its fucking over, we lost!!!!!!!!

[IrishAyes]

87. Don't know what to say? Try this.

Many responsible scholars believe the Book of Revelation was a way for early Christians to encourage each other through the Roman occupation. Had nothing to do with the future at all. It was written as if for the future so if it fell into Roman hands, there'd be less backlash - it would be laughed off as the ravings of a lunatic. Some scholars who reject that view say that the man exiled on Patmos was NOT John the Apostle and maybe not even anyone named John. Back in those days people often wrote things 'in the spirit of' the person they wished to honor. The best theologian I had a chance to study under was one of those on 'The Jesus Project' decades ago that set the fundie world aflame. He held with the first view. Regional culture of the day was very symbolic and many actual/probable truths are buried under a ton of it for various and sundry reasons. My teacher would've called Bachman batshit crazy too.

[longship]

112. Try "The Bible Geek" sometime. Robert M. Price.

He podcasts regularly, often daily.

http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/

Yup, he's a Republican. But he's also an outspoken atheist who knows the Bible back and forth. He is also a Jesus Myth adherent, mainly because of lack of confirming historic evidence, the discordant stories within the Bible, and the mythical predecessors to many of the Jesus' alleged history.

He's a guilty pleasure of mine. Brilliant, but an outcast. And sadly, a partisan Republican. But he talks an aweful lot about the Bible, which is very interesting.

Here's his podcast:
http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/biblegeek.php

The guy's a radical, just like those 19th century Bible reformers. He pushes the envelope on Biblical criticism.

Just FYI.

You ought to drop in on the DU Religion Forum. Lots of good stuff there, but too few theologians. I'm into physics, myself. But religion fascinates me.

[IrishAyes]

124. Well, I'm not an atheist myself, but thanks anyway

I'm not personally fond of extremism even though many others in religion think I am. You wouldn't believe the things I've been called - heretic, pagan, humanist, you name it. None of it bothers me. Possibly true and not what I consider an insult anyway. The main thing is that I've never seen a valid argument between healthy religion and science.

As Joseph Campbell used to say, a lot of the perceived conflict is really between science and those who insist on strict and total Biblical literalism. The latter can't see the forest for the trees. Not to mention they're actually guilty of idolatry by worshiping the book rather than its source. When you stop seeing yourself as the center of the universe and look outward towards the marvels it holds, reverential awe comes easily. I'm equally happy in a Universalist congregation.

And believe me, if I'd been in attendance anywhere that the pastor or priest indulged in partisan political stuff, I'd walk out and never return. If someone dared accuse me of turning my back on God, I'd answer, "No, I'm turning my back on you."

[Tigress DEM]

89. The END of HER political career. nt

[snooper2]

92. You want to know why people believe this shit? Or follow it and lap it up?

Because they don't have anything in their life that makes them feel special. It's really kind of pathetic. They sit there, looking at their life and want to be a part of something.

What would be more awesome then being part of the end of times! sad idiots---

[jmowreader]

93. Bachmann doesn't even know the Bible, apparently

She's referring, probably, to Revelation 6.13, which says:

And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

The problem she has, besides not knowing the Bible, is all the end times prophecies came to pass during the administrations of Reagan, Bush I and Bush II.

Reagan was the Antichrist - his full name is "Ronald Wilson Reagan." People like to twist Shrub around into the Antichrist by explaining that the German spelling of his last name, Busche, has six letters. Well...that's true, but Reagan ALSO has six letters.

The Horsemen came later...

The Horseman of Conquest (the white-horse one) is Donald Rumsfeld. Near as I can tell, the "white horse" he rode in on was actually a train car full of NutraSweet, which Donald Rumsfeld "called in his markers" to get approved while he was president of the company that invented it.

The Horseman of War (who rides the red horse) is Colin Powell...he and his spurious intelligence that lied the United Nations into allowing us to invade Iraq because Dick Cheney's oil is under Saddam Hussein's sand.

The Horseman of Famine is, of course, George W. Bush. Said the horseman when he came forth, "do not damage the oil and the wine." The night before Shrub invaded Iraq, he told the people of that nation not to damage its oil production facilities.

And the Horseman of Death, without question, is Dick Cheney. Ask Harry Whittington about that one. (You'll like this: if you go to google.com and type in "who did dick," the first autofill choice is "who did dick cheney shoot?&quot

[exboyfil]

105. Here I was thinking it was Reagan

when he sent arms to Iran.

[jmowreader]

136. He certainly ACTED like an Antichrist, didn't he?

And don't forget sending arms to Iraq...I mean, what better way to kick off Armageddon than by sending lots of really deluxe killing tools to both sides in a war in a powderkeg region?

[cleanhippie]

153. So you are saying that because her interpretation differs from yours, she is wrong?

[jmowreader]

170. No, I'm saying she's just wrong

The Scripture uses figs as a metaphor for early Christians and a high wind blowing them off trees before they're ripe as a metaphor for the havoc Caesar was wreaking on them. It doesn't say anything about the leaves, and Bachmann did.

Bachmann truly believes President Obama and the Democrats to be Caligula and the Roman Legions gearing up to destroy Christianity. And she's got a LOT of followers who believe exactly the same way. It's quite obvious that being ordered to buy health insurance is exactly the same as crucifixion or being thrown to the lions.

[cleanhippie]

172. Yes, you are saying she is wrong, based in your interpretation of the bible.

I'm not trying to argue whom is right or wrong, but surely you must see that this is simply YOUR interpretation, right?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

100. I think the only possible response to this would be

Oh jezus h fucking christ.

[tularetom]

102. Actually she's getting to the point where she annoys me more than Palin

At least Palin doesn't go around babbling that Jesus crap all the time.

[gopiscrap]

103. Fucking Christo-fascist freak!

[thecrow]

104. Only for you, sweetie, only for you

(she said she wasn't running again, right?) out of office= end times for Michelle. The comics will miss her.

[Scootaloo]

107. I know what the constitution says about religious tests...

But really, anyone who believes the apocalypse is next week or sooner should be barred from holding government office. They're the political version of suicide bombers.

[defacto7]

108. That is the most trite, most restated idea

in the last 1700 years. It's been claimed over and over again for generations. It was even written into the earliest bible texts about 1700 years ago. The bible's Jesus texts have him even saying it. It's as old as the New Testament's myths and is usually interpreted as in the far future but the text doesn't even say that. It becomes another convenient way to control a human flock of sheep. It's repeated and repeated by every deluded Christian leader who wants to stir fear and ecstasy into his audience.

When will people figure this con out?

[dimbear]

109. Meanwhile our supposedly responsible press picks out four prominent atheists and refers to them as

the four horsemen.

Thanks, fourth estate. Good job.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

111. Hey Michelle

When the rapture arrives can I have your car?

[Rex]

114. Yeah the end of the GOP.

Fucking lunatics.

[Beacool]

117. The crazy is strong with this one.

Michele, phone call for you. Bellevue noticed your absence, they are sending the men in white to pick you up.

[Cha]

118. My first thought was..

oh, this looks like a good thread to forget about our problems and have some mindless entertainment! rofl

I'll be more entertained reading everyone's reaction though.. than the actual crap coming out of her pipe hole.

thanks Cali

[B Calm]

121. LOL

[leftyladyfrommo]

144. I hear that stuff all the time.

I just go ahuh, ahuh and go on down the road.

People around here get high off that kind of talk. Really, it's a kind of weird addiction.

[abelenkpe]

126. It's the end of the world as we know it!

And she feels fine.


Cause she's complety insane. Bachmann belongs in a mental institute not congress. How did this lunatic get elected?

[FiveGoodMen]

155. "Bachmann belongs in a mental institute not congress"

That's a rather fine distinction these days.

[bvar22]

128. Our Fig Tree has leaves every year.

This year was no different.

Religious Fundamentalists holding up their holy books as LAW are the same everywhere.
Taliban Fundamentalists use their interpretation of Holy Law to justify killing innocents the Middle East.
Xtian Fundamentalists use their interpretations of Holy Law to kill innocents here.
(Denying Health Care and material assistance to those in need)

[LNM]

137. Well, hopefully, its the end politcally for her

[lonestarnot]

186. My sentiments precisely.

[hatrack]

154. Sorry for the rhetorical selfie, but had to repost this from another thread

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

Dear Rep. Arglebarglewargh (R-MN):

Do us all a favor. The next time "God tells you" to speak about your faith, just shut up. I don't care if it's the Dove of Peace tickling your heart, or the Holy Ghost stealing your car keys, just shut the fuck up.

You want to believe in the impending arrival of Terminator Jesus? Fine. You're pantingly impatient for the coming of the 12th Imam? Cool. You want to believe that a homicidal Santa Claus straddling a sleigh equipped with Stinger missiles, mini-guns and VX canisters will be sent from Heaven to separate the sheep from the goats on the Last Day? Have at it.

But do us a favor - while you're a federal elected official and (amazingly enough) one of the people in charge of creating federal law, do us all a favor, and shut the fuck up.

Do you know why that might be a good idea? Do you know why you might not want to publicly announce that you share the omnicidal blood-drenched dreams of the dullest and most fearful of those who support you?

Well, I'll tell you, Rep. Arglebarglewargh - because when you get the armed morons moving, it's kind of hard to stop them. When you solicit the votes of people who don't know the difference between a Sunni and Sunny Delight, who can't tell Rome from a Roma tomato, and couldn't find India on a map with a gun to their head, tell them that the President of the United States is in league with Al Qaeda, and then invoke a bunch of sub-Left Behind apocalyptic bullshit, you know what happens?

A few of them are likely to start cleaning the guns and loading up the truck. A few of them are likely to start hosing down the fertilizer with diesel fuel. And then, eventually, someone or two or three turn the key in the ignition and head for the Beltway, or the Federal Building, or the Statehouse so that they can strike a blow for Terminator Jesus, just like you told them to.

So do them, and us and yourself a favor.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

[madrchsod]

178. well it`s my....

to you...

for writing something other than gloom and doom.....

[JNelson6563]

188. Love this!

Bravo!

[Taverner]

156. The only end that is coming is the end of her career

Hope she likes prison orange!

[Warren DeMontague]

171. ...kemosabe, not afraid

[SammyWinstonJack]

173. What hell is she blathering on about?

[Gothmog]

177. Juanita Jean had some fun with Bachman's craziness

http://www.juanitajean.com/2013/10/08/apocalypse-alert-apocalypse-alert/

Do you want to know what her major concern is?

“We are seeing that in our time. Yes it gives us fear in some respects because we want the retirement that our parents enjoyed. Well they will, if they know Jesus Christ.”

If the apocalypse comes, she’s worried that she won’t get her retirement. She is not worried about fire and brimstone, no siree. She’s not even breaking a sweat over the three horsemen and the plague and crap. She is worried that she won’t get retirement. Yeah, that would be my big concern, too. ”Lord, do not come while there’s still a dollar in my retirement account.”

“Rather than seeing this as a negative, we need to rejoice, Maranatha Come Lord Jesus, His day is at hand,” Bachmann added later.

So if Obama is bringing about something to rejoice, why the hell are you so damn mean to him? That’s the part I don’t get.

No, that’s not true. The part I really don’t get is how she remembers to breathe.

Bachman is so crazy that it is funny

[ladyVet]

180. Bat. Shit. Crazy.

I don't believe in all this Rapture crap, but if it turned out to be true, there are going to be a whole lot of very surprised and upset people standing around wondering why they're still here, and not winging their way to their reward.

Oh. Wait. They are already there. Huh. Imagine that.

[yuiyoshida]

194. Can't She just go prepair for it, and leave the rest of us in peace?

Let her wrap up her affairs and wait for it... just leave us out of it.