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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/02/santorum-people-20-years-ago-couldnt-conceive-of-a-cell-phone/Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says that 20 years ago people couldnt even imagine cell phones, but now they are commonplace because Americans recognize the rights God has given every person.
Speaking to supporters in Chillicothe, Ohio on Friday, the former Pennsylvania senator explained that the U.S. had transformed the world with the a new form of government.
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Ricky there is no shame in admitting you need Psychological help.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I wonder what god will spring on us next??? He's already given us drought, storms and sunamis! Maybe he'll reveal a way to beat the speed of light. THAT WAY we could leave Santorum and the dolts that adore him behind.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)nanabugg
(2,198 posts)weapons in the hands of lunatics and children.
Since when do we have automatic weapons in the hands of lunatics and children?
Johonny
(20,830 posts)answering machines, pagers, call waiting and all the other stuff Ma Bell sat on and made incredibly expensive yet we take for granted today. I'm taking this as a pro-breaking up monopoly statement by Santorum because I refuse to think someone this crazy stupid could make it this far running for president.
pa28
(6,145 posts)All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and act like Abe Lincoln.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)The very first hand-held cell phones were created in 1973. The first service networks were active in 1978. By my count, that's 34 years ago, which is more than 20. I dare say people could have imagined cell phones, 14 years after they were available to the public.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Fuck him.
Right in the ear.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They were "proof of concept" devices, and bigger than a brick ... but even that was more than 10 years ago.
Ricky is starting to sound Amish.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)Ugly and clunky, but it worked!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)was that because they were so big, when a woman put it in her purse, she usually had to really squeeze it in, and the pressure would be sufficient to turn it on and kill the batteries ... or it would do what we now call "butt dialing", like when you forget to turn it off and then sit on it and it calls some one.
About 80% of the women who participated in our studies with those big devices had this happen. After, tons of research went into to figuring out how to prevent this ... forget the GPS part or the smart apps ... tons of research was spent just to keep the thing from turning on by itself.
But Ricky thinks no one was thinking about any of these things.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)...perhaps paranoid delusional disorder.
Edit: typo
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and what kind of slacker god would wait that long to conceive cell phones anyway.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)the delivery part, I mean
the first cell phones had umbilical cords.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)A great cartoon!
Whisp
(24,096 posts)sounds like Rush and Santorum dueting
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)The world's first commercial automated cellular network was launched in Japan by NTT in 1979, initially in the metropolitan area of Tokyo... The first 1G network launched in the USA was Chicago-based Ameritech in 1983 using the Motorola DynaTAC mobile phone.
That would have been 28 years ago. 32 if you concede that Japanese count as "people".
csziggy
(34,136 posts)About 1980-82 we were approached by a company that wanted to lease a tower site on our farm. This was before cell phones were available in the US. The companies bidding to get the cell phone licenses had to have sites for networks of towers to cover the areas they wanted to operate in We agreed that we would negotiate with the company if they got the license for this area. Unfortunately, they didn't - a competing company built a tower down the road.
It would have been a great windfall for us - they were talking $5000 a MONTH for a one acre site! As it is, the ridge we're on makes a wide dead zone for cell reception to the east, so the company that got the license missed a bet by not coming to us.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)20 years ago I had a cell phone. And I am basically an atheist.
niyad
(113,257 posts)want one., even though they all had them.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)niyad
(113,257 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Not counting science fiction and films, which dates the concept over a hundred years ago.
Little Ricky is a simpleton.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)By 1992, there were a few million cell phone users.
Ricky just makes up stuff as he goes along. He's on the D-Tier of candidates.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)It was huge -- almost as big as a brick -- but it was a cell phone.
We've come a long way, baby!
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Such a display of publicly visible wealth would invariably become popular .. only wish I had cash to invest in cell phones in those days
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)my ex-bf had one in 1988. it was one of those big honking ones in a case, but it was a cellphone.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)FSogol
(45,473 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:49 PM - Edit history (1)
It was in a kind of briefcase with an antenna, and it probably weighed 10 pounds, but it was a cell phone. And he didn't get it from God.
FSogol
(45,473 posts)phone?
20 year ago, no one could have conceived of a Presidential candidate as weak as Santorum.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Those are the exact three samples I thought of... Wrist Radio, Communicator and Shoe Phone. And there are plenty more in the Sci-Fi world.
I guess that whole science thing goes right over his head
FSogol
(45,473 posts)El Supremo
(20,365 posts)They were selling these cell phones everywhere in 1983.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Just kidding but I do still have one. Got it in 92 or 3.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Wall street 1987
Noodleboy13
(422 posts)There is very little intelligent life on this planet.
peace,
Noodleboy
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)What a dope.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Dang. It did have bad service.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)The first cell phone was in 1973!
rurallib
(62,406 posts)gawd will just drop some stuff on us.
can't wait for this guy to get the nomination.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)That's how shithouse rat insane this country has become.
spanone
(135,818 posts)bayareamike
(602 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)at least 26-27 years ago.
Yavin4
(35,433 posts)Whoops. I stand corrected.
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)Yep, it would have been 1992.
20 years ago.
I remember having a pager at work, and constantly having to pull over to find a phone, when someone at work needed to get me a message. I remember a conversation with a bunch of us saying that we just couldn't wait until mobile phones were cheap enough so that we wouldn't have to find a pay phone every time we got called.
So, they existed then, Mr. Frothy.
And god had nothing to do with it...
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)... twenty years back, and that they will somehow conclude that GOD created cell phones?
JBoy
(8,021 posts)And he also believes in evolution.
name not needed
(11,660 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Just a few guys and one genius electronics guy. I moved out of town after a few months and lost track of them.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)that 20 years ago nobody could conceive of Skype and "Face Time"
http://davidszondy.com/future/Living/picturephone.htm
Mumble
(201 posts)Thank you, God.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)Cellphones were around in 92, they were just huge and no one used them.
Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)Not man-portable, but it was cellular.
Johnny Rico
(1,438 posts)(commentary taken from http://roborant42.appspot.com/show/entry/5021)
Matt dug a candy bar out of his pouch, split it and gave half to Jarman, who accepted it gratefully. 'You're a pal, Matt, I've been living off of my own fat ever since breakfast and that's risky. Say, your telephone is sounding.'
'Oh!' Matt fumbled in his pouch and got out his phone. 'Hello?'
'That you son?' came his father's voice.
'Yes, dad.'
'Did you get there all right?'
'Sure, I'm about to report in.'
'How's your leg?'
'Leg's all right, Dad.' His answer was not frank; his right leg, fresh from a corrective operation for a short achilles tendon, was aching as he spoke.
'That's good. Now see here Matt if it should work out that you aren't selected, don't let it get you down. You call me at once and '
'Sure, sure, Dad,' Matt broke in. 'I'll have to sign off I'm in a crowd. Good-bye. Thanks for calling.'
'Good-bye son. Good luck.'
Tex Jarman looked at him understandingly. 'Your folks always worry, don't they? I fooled mine packed my phone in my bag.'
Not only did Heinlein nail the cellphone technology, but he also saw the sociological implications of it: parents would be able to keep tabs on their kids no matter where they went. That exact conversation could take place today, sixty years after it was written and no one would bat an eye. Yet in 1948 it was laughable. A phone you could carry anywhere? How could that be possible? Also, note that the phone didn't "ring" as all phones at the time did. Heinlein realized that a hand-held phone wouldn't have room for a bulky ringer, it would instead "sound" a tone or melody of some sort. Also, note that a "pouch" maps pretty closely to a fanny pack or man bag.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)If I'm not mistaken -- it may have been a year or two before or a year or two after, but it was right around that time.
There were a few car phone services at the time (St. Louis was the first city to get automobile phone service in 1946) that basically used two-way radio technology and then an operator would patch the call into the phone system. But frequency restrictions severely limited the number of possible subscribers. They found a solution at Bell Labs in 1948 or so, but Ma Bell didn't invest the resources to fully develop it (they believed they could pressure the government for more frequencies, thus solving the problem). When cell phone technology started to develop in earnest in the 1970s, they used the same basic idea from Bell Labs in the '40s. (Can't remember the name of the guy who came up with the solution, alas.)
Anyway, kind of interesting. Cell phone (and the car phone) have a much longer history than most folks realize. Certainly more than 20 years
malthaussen
(17,186 posts)... and by your nickname I'd assume you agree.
-- Mal
Johnny Rico
(1,438 posts)Tabasco_Dave
(1,259 posts)Go to 1:23 seconds
malthaussen
(17,186 posts)"Dresses adaptable for morning and evening wear!" What a concept!
-- Mal
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Like others here, I have memories of people having cell phones in the late 80's. In fact, we used to play adult softball in the summer (ETA: I was not an adult, but a teen at the time. I just played b/c they always needed girls and my parents played), and it got really annoying with all of the business/sales guys having their cell phones hooked up to their horn so they could hear their business calls during the games. Some truck would go off honking and someone would come in running off the field to answer their phone. Back then I think they had to be almost constantly charged so the guys had to keep them in their trucks. Or maybe it was sat phones? I'm not sure - but it's not like cell phones were 'inconceivable'. Heck, our school even had the internet 20 years ago.
Just another instance of history being re-written.
Funny how a cell phone is a god-given right, but birth control is the devil. How do they know the difference when a new innovative product comes on the market? Who does God tell?
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)crimsonblue
(5,337 posts)Here is a cell phone from 1992. Does he not realize cell phones were invented by zombie Jesus in the fuckin 80s?
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)20 years ago was the Bronze Age.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)The first public call on a portable cellular phone was made on April 3, 1973. http://inventors.about.com/cs/inventorsalphabet/a/martin_cooper.htm
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Yay watchmaker!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)santorum - - - not his finest work.
I do believe that religion has made little pRicky batshit crazy.