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Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:08 PM Mar 2012

Santorum: ‘People 20 years ago couldn’t conceive of a cell phone’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/02/santorum-people-20-years-ago-couldnt-conceive-of-a-cell-phone/


Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says that 20 years ago people couldn’t even imagine cell phones, but now they are commonplace because Americans “recognize the rights God has given every person.”

Speaking to supporters in Chillicothe, Ohio on Friday, the former Pennsylvania senator explained that the U.S. had “transformed the world” with the a new form of government.


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Ricky there is no shame in admitting you need Psychological help.




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Santorum: ‘People 20 years ago couldn’t conceive of a cell phone’ (Original Post) Justice wanted Mar 2012 OP
cell phones are a God Given Right? um, what? uppityperson Mar 2012 #1
I'm kind of excited! Plucketeer Mar 2012 #23
I'm confused too sakabatou Mar 2012 #24
And the "founding fathers" couldn't conceive of voting minorities, women rights, and automatic nanabugg Mar 2012 #25
Um... TheWraith Mar 2012 #65
AT$T was satan, when we got rid of it God could give us cell phones Johonny Mar 2012 #32
Two weeks ago he might have had the nomination sewn up. pa28 Mar 2012 #57
More to the point, cell phones have existed for a lot more than 20 years. TheWraith Mar 2012 #64
But women's reproductive decisions should be left to celibate men. PeaceNikki Mar 2012 #79
Ricky is not a smart man ... I was working on GPS enabled smart phones in the late 90s. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #2
I had one of those monsters for 2 years. alittlelark Mar 2012 #60
We were building proof of concepts and one of the funniest things we found ... JoePhilly Mar 2012 #81
I kept my 'block' in the car - how would someone put it in a pocket? alittlelark Mar 2012 #83
Yes, it's pretty obvious that Santorum suffers from some psychological disorder... polichick Mar 2012 #3
he's got this conceive thing going through everything he says. Whisp Mar 2012 #4
I didn't know one could conceive a cell phone! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #41
that must hurt even more than round babies Whisp Mar 2012 #44
I wonder do they come with a ringtone Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #48
yeh, it's Wah! waaaaaah!!! wah. wah. .... * gulp Wah!!!! Whisp Mar 2012 #49
What a dunce. KamaAina Mar 2012 #5
That sounds about right csziggy Mar 2012 #34
Oh please MadrasT Mar 2012 #6
20 years ago, my friends were whining that I DIDN'T have a cell phone, and annoyed that I didn't niyad Mar 2012 #12
I still don't have a cell phone and my friends are still whining! Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #55
one of my friends called me a luddite, until I finally had to get one last year. niyad Mar 2012 #70
LOL! cyberswede Mar 2012 #21
Maybe if you're an idiot. Wireless phones were available for decades before that. onehandle Mar 2012 #7
The first commercial cell phones came onto the market in the early 80's. Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #8
I saw one in 1982 LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2012 #42
I recall at least 30 maybe 35 years ago seeing people using those (now) chubby car phones angstlessk Mar 2012 #52
A brick in a brief case. But yeah. they were there. nt alphafemale Mar 2012 #82
bullshit shanti Mar 2012 #9
Santorum said his professors made fun of him in college Enrique Mar 2012 #10
almost positive they are now wendylaroux Mar 2012 #16
The only time he told the truth. FSogol Mar 2012 #17
Friend of mine had one in the late '80s. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2012 #11
Didn't Dick Tracy (1930s), Star Trek (60s) & Maxwell Smart (60s) all have some version of a cell FSogol Mar 2012 #13
LMAO.. talk about great minds.. SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #20
Rick Santorum - "Trapped in a world he never made" FSogol Mar 2012 #29
What a dumbass! El Supremo Mar 2012 #14
I STILL use a brick phone. ErikJ Mar 2012 #46
He's a Moran. trumad Mar 2012 #15
Ummm, Beam me up Scotty? Noodleboy13 Mar 2012 #18
This man really needs to be institutionalized. hifiguy Mar 2012 #19
Wow. Just...wow. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #22
Wait a minute I used a cell phone for work in 1989-23 years ago! eom mrmpa Mar 2012 #26
So that cell phone I had 20 years ago was imaginary? proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #27
You mean in 1992, people couldn't conceive of a cell phone? sakabatou Mar 2012 #28
. ProSense Mar 2012 #43
we can quit all that sciency shit and education stuff rurallib Mar 2012 #30
lol SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #80
20 years ago, this lunatic couldn't have gotten this far in the POTUS race PlanetBev Mar 2012 #31
verbal spaghetti spanone Mar 2012 #33
I'm speechless. bayareamike Mar 2012 #35
I had one of these Go Vols Mar 2012 #36
20 Years Ago, People Couldn't Conceive A Dumbass Like Rick Santorum Being Close to the Presidency Yavin4 Mar 2012 #37
What year is this? 2012? RevStPatrick Mar 2012 #38
Wait, he's seriously banking on the idea that nobody can remember ... surrealAmerican Mar 2012 #39
Apparently God wanted to roll out the first cell networks in Japan and Europe, though. JBoy Mar 2012 #40
I need a drink after reading that. name not needed Mar 2012 #45
I helped launch a cell phone company in 1979-80. ErikJ Mar 2012 #47
What a nitwit. He's pretty funny. Quantess Mar 2012 #50
So his next proclamation will be pipi_k Mar 2012 #51
So God gave me my cell phone. Mumble Mar 2012 #53
20 years ago was 1992. white_wolf Mar 2012 #54
I had a cell phone 20 years ago Dip Shit. Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #56
An episode of "Columbo" had a car phone in it. krispos42 Mar 2012 #58
From Robert A. Heinlein's "Space Cadet", written in 1948: Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #59
1948 was basically when cell phone technology was actually invented at Bell Labs fishwax Mar 2012 #68
Well, Bobby was ahead of his time... malthaussen Mar 2012 #73
Good assumption! Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #77
They conceived of cell phones in the 1930's Tabasco_Dave Mar 2012 #61
Love it! malthaussen Mar 2012 #74
Um. laundry_queen Mar 2012 #62
I had a cell phone 20 years ago! liberal_mama Mar 2012 #63
Santorum really is a stupid piece of shit crimsonblue Mar 2012 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author crimsonblue Mar 2012 #67
If you believe that the Earth is only 5,000 years old, you have to adjust your timelines accordingly Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #69
I bet he couldn't fit in with the Boy Scouts - because he was waaaaay too much of a twirp Douglas Carpenter Mar 2012 #71
He probably thinks dinosaurs lived twenty years ago. n/t Downtown Hound Mar 2012 #72
Wadda maroon. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2012 #75
It's intelligent design. Thumbs couldn't have evolved by accident. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #76
gawd. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #78
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. I'm kind of excited!
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:30 PM
Mar 2012

I wonder what god will spring on us next??? He's already given us drought, storms and sunamis! Maybe he'll reveal a way to beat the speed of light. THAT WAY we could leave Santorum and the dolts that adore him behind.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
25. And the "founding fathers" couldn't conceive of voting minorities, women rights, and automatic
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:34 PM
Mar 2012

weapons in the hands of lunatics and children.

Johonny

(20,830 posts)
32. AT$T was satan, when we got rid of it God could give us cell phones
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

answering machines, pagers, call waiting and all the other stuff Ma Bell sat on and made incredibly expensive yet we take for granted today. I'm taking this as a pro-breaking up monopoly statement by Santorum because I refuse to think someone this crazy stupid could make it this far running for president.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
57. Two weeks ago he might have had the nomination sewn up.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:00 AM
Mar 2012

All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and act like Abe Lincoln.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
64. More to the point, cell phones have existed for a lot more than 20 years.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:56 AM
Mar 2012

The very first hand-held cell phones were created in 1973. The first service networks were active in 1978. By my count, that's 34 years ago, which is more than 20. I dare say people could have imagined cell phones, 14 years after they were available to the public.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. Ricky is not a smart man ... I was working on GPS enabled smart phones in the late 90s.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
Mar 2012

They were "proof of concept" devices, and bigger than a brick ... but even that was more than 10 years ago.

Ricky is starting to sound Amish.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
81. We were building proof of concepts and one of the funniest things we found ...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:57 PM
Mar 2012

was that because they were so big, when a woman put it in her purse, she usually had to really squeeze it in, and the pressure would be sufficient to turn it on and kill the batteries ... or it would do what we now call "butt dialing", like when you forget to turn it off and then sit on it and it calls some one.

About 80% of the women who participated in our studies with those big devices had this happen. After, tons of research went into to figuring out how to prevent this ... forget the GPS part or the smart apps ... tons of research was spent just to keep the thing from turning on by itself.

But Ricky thinks no one was thinking about any of these things.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
3. Yes, it's pretty obvious that Santorum suffers from some psychological disorder...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:12 PM
Mar 2012

...perhaps paranoid delusional disorder.


Edit: typo

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
4. he's got this conceive thing going through everything he says.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:12 PM
Mar 2012

and what kind of slacker god would wait that long to conceive cell phones anyway.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
44. that must hurt even more than round babies
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:15 PM
Mar 2012

the delivery part, I mean

the first cell phones had umbilical cords.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. What a dunce.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:14 PM
Mar 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone#History

The world's first commercial automated cellular network was launched in Japan by NTT in 1979, initially in the metropolitan area of Tokyo... The first 1G network launched in the USA was Chicago-based Ameritech in 1983 using the Motorola DynaTAC mobile phone.

That would have been 28 years ago. 32 if you concede that Japanese count as "people".

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
34. That sounds about right
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:45 PM
Mar 2012

About 1980-82 we were approached by a company that wanted to lease a tower site on our farm. This was before cell phones were available in the US. The companies bidding to get the cell phone licenses had to have sites for networks of towers to cover the areas they wanted to operate in We agreed that we would negotiate with the company if they got the license for this area. Unfortunately, they didn't - a competing company built a tower down the road.

It would have been a great windfall for us - they were talking $5000 a MONTH for a one acre site! As it is, the ridge we're on makes a wide dead zone for cell reception to the east, so the company that got the license missed a bet by not coming to us.

niyad

(113,257 posts)
12. 20 years ago, my friends were whining that I DIDN'T have a cell phone, and annoyed that I didn't
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:18 PM
Mar 2012

want one., even though they all had them.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
7. Maybe if you're an idiot. Wireless phones were available for decades before that.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:15 PM
Mar 2012

Not counting science fiction and films, which dates the concept over a hundred years ago.

Little Ricky is a simpleton.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
8. The first commercial cell phones came onto the market in the early 80's.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:15 PM
Mar 2012

By 1992, there were a few million cell phone users.

Ricky just makes up stuff as he goes along. He's on the D-Tier of candidates.

42. I saw one in 1982
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:05 PM
Mar 2012

It was huge -- almost as big as a brick -- but it was a cell phone.

We've come a long way, baby!

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
52. I recall at least 30 maybe 35 years ago seeing people using those (now) chubby car phones
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:10 PM
Mar 2012

Such a display of publicly visible wealth would invariably become popular .. only wish I had cash to invest in cell phones in those days

shanti

(21,675 posts)
9. bullshit
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:15 PM
Mar 2012

my ex-bf had one in 1988. it was one of those big honking ones in a case, but it was a cellphone.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
11. Friend of mine had one in the late '80s.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:18 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:49 PM - Edit history (1)

It was in a kind of briefcase with an antenna, and it probably weighed 10 pounds, but it was a cell phone. And he didn't get it from God.

FSogol

(45,473 posts)
13. Didn't Dick Tracy (1930s), Star Trek (60s) & Maxwell Smart (60s) all have some version of a cell
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:19 PM
Mar 2012

phone?

20 year ago, no one could have conceived of a Presidential candidate as weak as Santorum.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
20. LMAO.. talk about great minds..
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:27 PM
Mar 2012

Those are the exact three samples I thought of... Wrist Radio, Communicator and Shoe Phone. And there are plenty more in the Sci-Fi world.

I guess that whole science thing goes right over his head

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
30. we can quit all that sciency shit and education stuff
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:36 PM
Mar 2012

gawd will just drop some stuff on us.
can't wait for this guy to get the nomination.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
31. 20 years ago, this lunatic couldn't have gotten this far in the POTUS race
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:36 PM
Mar 2012

That's how shithouse rat insane this country has become.

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
37. 20 Years Ago, People Couldn't Conceive A Dumbass Like Rick Santorum Being Close to the Presidency
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:53 PM
Mar 2012



Whoops. I stand corrected.
 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
38. What year is this? 2012?
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:56 PM
Mar 2012

Yep, it would have been 1992.
20 years ago.

I remember having a pager at work, and constantly having to pull over to find a phone, when someone at work needed to get me a message. I remember a conversation with a bunch of us saying that we just couldn't wait until mobile phones were cheap enough so that we wouldn't have to find a pay phone every time we got called.

So, they existed then, Mr. Frothy.
And god had nothing to do with it...

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
39. Wait, he's seriously banking on the idea that nobody can remember ...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:59 PM
Mar 2012

... twenty years back, and that they will somehow conclude that GOD created cell phones?

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
40. Apparently God wanted to roll out the first cell networks in Japan and Europe, though.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:59 PM
Mar 2012

And he also believes in evolution.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
47. I helped launch a cell phone company in 1979-80.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:31 PM
Mar 2012

Just a few guys and one genius electronics guy. I moved out of town after a few months and lost track of them.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
59. From Robert A. Heinlein's "Space Cadet", written in 1948:
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:24 AM
Mar 2012

(commentary taken from http://roborant42.appspot.com/show/entry/5021)

Matt dug a candy bar out of his pouch, split it and gave half to Jarman, who accepted it gratefully. 'You're a pal, Matt, I've been living off of my own fat ever since breakfast –and that's risky. Say, your telephone is sounding.'
'Oh!' Matt fumbled in his pouch and got out his phone. 'Hello?'
'That you son?' came his father's voice.
'Yes, dad.'
'Did you get there all right?'
'Sure, I'm about to report in.'
'How's your leg?'
'Leg's all right, Dad.' His answer was not frank; his right leg, fresh from a corrective operation for a short achilles tendon, was aching as he spoke.
'That's good. Now see here Matt –if it should work out that you aren't selected, don't let it get you down. You call me at once and –'
'Sure, sure, Dad,' Matt broke in. 'I'll have to sign off –I'm in a crowd. Good-bye. Thanks for calling.'
'Good-bye son. Good luck.'
Tex Jarman looked at him understandingly. 'Your folks always worry, don't they? I fooled mine –packed my phone in my bag.'


Not only did Heinlein nail the cellphone technology, but he also saw the sociological implications of it: parents would be able to keep tabs on their kids no matter where they went. That exact conversation could take place today, sixty years after it was written and no one would bat an eye. Yet in 1948 it was laughable. A phone you could carry anywhere? How could that be possible? Also, note that the phone didn't "ring" as all phones at the time did. Heinlein realized that a hand-held phone wouldn't have room for a bulky ringer, it would instead "sound" a tone or melody of some sort. Also, note that a "pouch" maps pretty closely to a fanny pack or man bag.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
68. 1948 was basically when cell phone technology was actually invented at Bell Labs
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 03:02 AM
Mar 2012

If I'm not mistaken -- it may have been a year or two before or a year or two after, but it was right around that time.

There were a few car phone services at the time (St. Louis was the first city to get automobile phone service in 1946) that basically used two-way radio technology and then an operator would patch the call into the phone system. But frequency restrictions severely limited the number of possible subscribers. They found a solution at Bell Labs in 1948 or so, but Ma Bell didn't invest the resources to fully develop it (they believed they could pressure the government for more frequencies, thus solving the problem). When cell phone technology started to develop in earnest in the 1970s, they used the same basic idea from Bell Labs in the '40s. (Can't remember the name of the guy who came up with the solution, alas.)

Anyway, kind of interesting. Cell phone (and the car phone) have a much longer history than most folks realize. Certainly more than 20 years

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
62. Um.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:19 AM
Mar 2012

Like others here, I have memories of people having cell phones in the late 80's. In fact, we used to play adult softball in the summer (ETA: I was not an adult, but a teen at the time. I just played b/c they always needed girls and my parents played), and it got really annoying with all of the business/sales guys having their cell phones hooked up to their horn so they could hear their business calls during the games. Some truck would go off honking and someone would come in running off the field to answer their phone. Back then I think they had to be almost constantly charged so the guys had to keep them in their trucks. Or maybe it was sat phones? I'm not sure - but it's not like cell phones were 'inconceivable'. Heck, our school even had the internet 20 years ago.

Just another instance of history being re-written.

Funny how a cell phone is a god-given right, but birth control is the devil. How do they know the difference when a new innovative product comes on the market? Who does God tell?

crimsonblue

(5,337 posts)
66. Santorum really is a stupid piece of shit
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 03:01 AM
Mar 2012

Here is a cell phone from 1992. Does he not realize cell phones were invented by zombie Jesus in the fuckin 80s?

Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
69. If you believe that the Earth is only 5,000 years old, you have to adjust your timelines accordingly
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 03:17 AM
Mar 2012

20 years ago was the Bronze Age.

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