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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew book "Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country"
There's this new book Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country written by Canadian journalist Diane Francis. The right-wing National Post paper in Canada printed an excerpt. A columnist for that publication criticized/criticised the book. And CBC Radio's The Current interviewed Francis about the idea. From the National Post's excerpt:
The best option for the U.S. and Canada to survive the new economic reality would be to alter course by devising protective policies and to merge into one gigantic nation. This book, a thought experiment, details the economic benefits of joining forces, the way a deal could be structured in fairness to both nations, the political obstacles littering its path and, lastly, strategies if a merger is impossible. This book is written from my viewpoint, as a dual citizen and business writer, that the interests and values of the two nations are aligned and that a merger makes good business sense.
WTF is this? Wha...?
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Canadians still see themselves as very distinct and separate from the United States. They are very proud of their social safety net and would not tolerate any disintegration of it. Only possibility I could ever see for unification is blocks of northern states joining the Canadian confederation.
This is propaganda from the Conservatives in Canada, mainly the Albertan ex-Reform party sect of the Conservative Party of Canada. My prediction is that the cons will be thrown out of office in 2015, in favor of a Liberal-NDP coalition government.
liberalhistorian
(20,816 posts)elected in the first place, let alone re-elected. He's always appeared to me to be far more conservative and bombastic than what I would think most Canadians would tolerate.
Auggie
(31,163 posts)considering climate change.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)NEVER for us too!
*faints.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts).
treestar
(82,383 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)They are quite satisfied with the way things are. Canada is a lovely place, and if you look at the streets of Vancouver, you see little if no trash, unlike in American cities. I never quite understood why people in this country thought it was a good idea to throw their trash from their cars to the highways, or litter places that are breath takengly beautiful.
If I had a second choice of where to live on this planet, I would pick Vancouver BC.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)just by the way it is laid out...
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)and a lot of them would be perfectly happy having Ontario as the fifty first state.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)But could you imagine the Tea Bag republicans upon hearing we just inherited a whole group of former French Canadians? They would have a fit!!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)or, barring that, a departement of France.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)It's usually the hard right who envy the US for it's right wing movement. Or people who want better shopping Or lower taxes.
Most, if you talk to them, don't REALLY want to be American, they just want some of the perks. There are some who just want to be 'one of the cool kids'. See, us Canadians are often subject to American propaganda about how wonderful you all are, and there are some Canadians who just want to be cool too.
THIS Canadian and every single person in my family and extended family have had this discussion (I've had this discussion with friends too) and I'm not personally close to anyone who would say yes (I've talked to a few, but that was years ago). Mostly it's not just no, but HELL NO, lol.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)running to their keyboards.
Heck, the 2012 Republican Party platforms in Texas, Iowa and several other states included planks opposing the NAU even though it does not exist. I am sure they are either afraid of Canada's "socialism" or just uber-nationalists. The real danger, of course, would be the opposite - that our policies unfriendly to the middle class would overwhelm Canada's "socialism".
I'm not terribly keen, as a US citizen, to have to start saying "aboot" and eat Tim Horton donuts.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)that but it wasn't called that. It had no name, but we called it mystery meat with gravy and mashed whatever.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Poutine (/puːˈtiːn/; French: [putin], Quebec French:[put͡sɪn] ( listen)) is a common Canadian dish, originally from Quebec, made with french fries, topped with brown gravy and cheese curds. Sometimes additional ingredients are added.[1]
This fast food dish can now be found across Canada, and is also found in some places in the northern United States, although it is still exotic enough there to sometimes need describing.[2] It is sold in small "greasy spoon" type diners (commonly known as cantines or casse-croûtes in Quebec) and pubs, as well as by roadside chip wagons (commonly known as cabanes à patates, literally "potato shacks" . National and international chains like New York Fries,[3] McDonald's,[4] A&W,[5] KFC,[6] and Burger King[7] also sell mass-produced poutine in Canada. Poutine may also contain other ingredients such as bacon, beef, pulled pork, lamb, lobster meat, shrimp, duck[8] or rabbit confit,[9] caviar, and truffles.
more..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)If they would just dump the British monarchy and become a republic.
I have far more in common with them than anyone in Washington DC.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Hell, I would even pretend to like hockey and end my sentences with "eh".
muriel_volestrangler
(101,306 posts)Both have populations significantly below the USA, and are not expected to become larger than it. And they will not become significantly richer per person than the USA; as they become richer per person, their growth rates will slow. Whoever wrote that has not thought about this subject. It seems to be the book author the book author, so I would say it is a waste of time.
hunter
(38,310 posts)Both are places where the very wealthy get wealthier and government can be bought.
treestar
(82,383 posts)This government shut down stuff - can it happen in a Parliamentary system?
Not gonna happen, though. Canada would be crazy to take that one on.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)The last thing Canada needs is to be one with the US.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,922 posts)Texas goes back to Mexico.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)will go to Mexico. The fine State of Texas will remain in the United States of North America.
Chisox08
(1,898 posts)And will it further marginalize the Teahadist?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)in the past.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)10% liberal voters added to general population. That being said they are voting to destroy themselves tonight so I wouldn't put it past them to vote against their own self interest.
Besides. Diane Francis used to be American.
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Coyotl
(15,262 posts)This idea will only be viable if the Ice Age returns and the Canadians all need to move to the South
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Thiery years ago China instituted the one-child-per-family law. That means way fewer young people to support the older people who can't work as much. By 2030 that will be very serious problem as they will have many fewer people under 47, and way fewer under 25. It will cause a huge economic slowdown for China. You can't have a growing economy with a lopsided population crash.