Rove Comes Clean: Delay Obamacare Until GOP Wins Presidency

[Emit]

Fox News contributor and GOP strategist Karl Rove revealed the real motive behind calls to delay implementation of the Affordable Care Act (ACA): To buy time until the election of a Republican president who would be willing to repeal the law in its entirety.

On the September 23 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Rove discussed his previous criticism of Republicans and conservative media figures who have threatened to force a government shutdown if President Obama doesn't acquiesce to right-wing demands to completely defund the ACA, also known among conservatives as Obamacare. Congress must pass a continuing resolution by October 1 in order to fund the federal government. If not, the government will partially shut down. Republicans in Congress have insisted that they will only pass the resolution if it excludes funding for the ACA, one of Obama's signature accomplishments.

Rove opposed the idea of forcing a government shutdown, largely for fear of the political consequences. Instead, he pushed the idea that Republicans should attempt to delay implementation of the law -- currently scheduled to be fully implemented on October 1, 2013 -- until a Republican president is elected. "We need to have a President who will sign a measure defunding, repealing, getting rid of, and replacing Obamacare, and until we have a president who is going to do that we are going to be fighting."

When Fox host Bill O'Reilly pointed out that the next presidential election is three years away, Rove shrugged it off, responding, "That's why I favor a delay strategy."

Video at link:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/09/24/rove-comes-clean-delay-obamacare-until-gop-wins/196048

[99th_Monkey]

1. Too bad it's a stupid idea KKKarl. US citizens are waking up to GOP extortion

Is that all you got KKKarl? To gainsay and trash a perfectly good health
care plan for America? <-- pathetically lame KKKarl.

Sorry. No cigar.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. No way in hell will we delay implementation of the Affordable Care Act.

ESPECIALLY now that we know this.

Fuck the Republicans, and not in a good way.

[TexasTowelie]

30. I've only been here at DU for a couple of years,

but I know that when you throw out the F-bomb you are really riled up about an issue. Way to go, CP!

[Brigid]

3. I hope Rove doesn't think anyone is surprised to hear this.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. Keep in mind that he's considered to be a "mastermind"....

Ever see "The Incredibles"?

Monologuing. The guy spills the whole plan and wont shut up.

[CoffeeCat]

4. Who listens to Karl after the 2012 election?

Seriously. Karl Rove making predictions and discussing political strategy when he fucked up royally, live on Fox News, on election night 2012--predicting EVERYTHING inaccurately.

Do these ingrates have no shame?

[Emit]

9. I don't know, CoffeeCat

But there does seem to be an echo vaguely reminiscent of the old Republican Noise Machine - see post #7 below

[BeyondGeography]

5. Central to their Obama-never-happened fantasy

Big white babies.

[SummerSnow]

6. Different strategy, same old game..

fuck off Rover

[Emit]

7. House Republicans Really Believe Democrats Will Cave On Obamacare To Avoid A Government Shutdown

House Republicans may appear to observers to be pushing the government toward a shutdown, but that's not even remotely how they see it.

~snip~

"We just need to stand firm. I think we may get Democrats on this," said Rep. Tom Massie (R-Ky.).

A reporter asked why the president would sign a bill undermining his signature health care law. "He had 22 Democrats vote for a delay of the individual mandate back in July. I think you will get Democrats. I will predict that," Massie said Saturday afternoon. Republicans did get Democrats to support them in the vote that happened later on Saturday -- two of them, the same number of Republicans who switched sides.

Much of the GOP thinking seems to be rooted in the fact that Obama has already delayed some provisions. So why not delay the whole law?

"The president is setting a precedent of delays," said Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.) "So based on that precedent I think we have a strong argument."

"I don't think he would sign a repeal. I don't think he would sign a defund, and that's where I disagree with my colleagues in the Senate," he added. "They've set expectations for the American people unrealistically. I don't see this president signing a repeal. But a delay, he's been delaying it more than anyone."

One optimistic Republican, echoing many others, said that a delay ought to be agreeable since the GOP had started out with a much more extreme position. "You're going from saying, 'Do away with Obamacare for good, total, ever, ever and ever,' to saying, 'Just delay it, suspend it, just for 12 months.' That's a big concession," said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).

~snip~

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/29/house-republicans-obamacare_n_4013595.html?utm_source=concierge&utm_medium=onsite&utm_campaign=sailthru%2Bslider%2B

[winter is coming]

11. We've blinked before. I don't think they understand why it won't happen this time.

The outraged screaming should be entertaining.

[Cha]

16. Yeah, Emit.. they thought Rmoney Romney was going to win

the election, too.

[Emit]

31. Well, there is that!

Hahaha!

Cha!

[Pretzel_Warrior]

8. Hey, Karl. You've been exposed as a stupid shit head

Who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Go shove your head back up your ass and leave it to the grown ups to sort this out. You gave us that spastic moron, Bush so your credibility is in negative territory.

[Brigid]

10. Don't hold back, Pretzel Warrior . . .

Tell us how you really feel!

[Emit]

13. ...

[Pretzel_Warrior]

15. These slime balls tend to get me worked up

And when our firepower is aimed outward toward opposition instead of inward with internecine squabbles, I tend to go with the heavy artillery including F Bombs.

[Emit]

27. Fire away, Pretzel_Warrior!

[B Calm]

12. The O'Reilly Factor is still on the air?

[BootinUp]

14. Dream On Karl baby. nt

[TheKentuckian]

17. No shit.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

18. I'm still with Amb. Joe Wilson

Karl Rove needs to be frog marched out.

[Wounded Bear]

19. Ever notice how "replace" is always the last term on their list of what to do about medical care?

Always. Every fucking time, it's "delay, block, defund, repeal...........oh, and then (and only then) replace it (with something)."

Funny how the "something" they plan to replace it with never gets defined.

No negotiating.

Oh, and fuck you Rove.

[Live and Learn]

20. Ha, the election of 3016 is a long time to stall. nt

[merrily]

21. Rove never comes clean. This is about the midterms.

If he says it's about the Presidential, people might think a delay of a year is no problem.

Meanwhile, Republicans will use this to GOTV of their base, just as, under Rove's tutelage, they used equal marriage in the 2000 and 2004 elections to GOTV of their base.

Either way, it's another year of trying to brainwash America.

[Rex]

22. Never work, not with them losing Congress in 2014.

Karl is a failure even his own people call him a turd blossom. He took credit for other peoples accomplishments. Same as it ever was with the GOP court.

[rocktivity]

23. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" awards

All that's needed to figure that out is a minimum of one halfway functional brain cell!


rocktivity

[blkmusclmachine]

24. In other news, H2O is wet.

[SaveAmerica]

25. Not going to happen Krove, put a fork in the Republican Party

thanks to you!!

[BlueStreak]

26. And what kind of idiot Dem would agree to that?

Their goal is obvious. It isn't cleverly disguised or anything. These guys have zero leverage. They should simply be ignored and the pressures of government shutdown will force them to surrender. About the time that Lockheed stops getting their billion-dollar checks this tactic will stop.

And at this point, screw them. Let them ruin America's credit when the debt limit is reached in a couple of weeks. It will hurt the billionaires who support the GOP a lot worse than it will hurt the average American.

Just ignore them. Let them do their damage. We'll survive that, and in the aftermath, America will see what reckless, irresponsible people they are, and the GOP will learn that they have no leverage.

Having a slight majority in 1/3 of the government gets you nothing. That's how it is supposed to work.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. Hey Rove,....YOU LOST.