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Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:46 PM

I despised Breitbart in life; but four kids, ages 12, 10, 6, and 4 are missing their Dad tonight.

For their sake alone, I just can't hop on board the grave-pissing train.
He's gone ... he'll spew no more hate, no more falsehoods, and I'll sleep well tonight. But I'll think of those children, and I won't be celebrating.

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Reply I despised Breitbart in life; but four kids, ages 12, 10, 6, and 4 are missing their Dad tonight. (Original post)
11 Bravo Mar 2012 OP
liberal_mama Mar 2012 #1
Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #2
malaise Mar 2012 #4
WillowTree Mar 2012 #56
Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #66
Zoeisright Mar 2012 #98
nanabugg Mar 2012 #108
frylock Mar 2012 #3
russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #7
Raine Mar 2012 #23
Zalatix Mar 2012 #124
surfdog Mar 2012 #5
Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #11
marions ghost Mar 2012 #115
russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #6
CTyankee Mar 2012 #12
frylock Mar 2012 #16
earthside Mar 2012 #26
itsrobert Mar 2012 #35
Tom Ripley Mar 2012 #137
Gabi Hayes Mar 2012 #43
alphafemale Mar 2012 #8
Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #9
saras Mar 2012 #10
frylock Mar 2012 #17
phleshdef Mar 2012 #13
jeff47 Mar 2012 #18
phleshdef Mar 2012 #25
frylock Mar 2012 #45
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frylock Mar 2012 #70
phleshdef Mar 2012 #82
frylock Mar 2012 #87
phleshdef Mar 2012 #90
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LanternWaste Mar 2012 #126
jeff47 Mar 2012 #76
AngryOldDem Mar 2012 #106
RZM Mar 2012 #20
phleshdef Mar 2012 #27
RZM Mar 2012 #32
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2012 #59
phleshdef Mar 2012 #84
Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2012 #96
RZM Mar 2012 #117
LanternWaste Mar 2012 #127
emilyg Mar 2012 #51
cwydro Mar 2012 #112
TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #14
belcffub Mar 2012 #15
Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #19
RZM Mar 2012 #21
Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #29
xmas74 Mar 2012 #30
cbdo2007 Mar 2012 #22
Stinky The Clown Mar 2012 #24
otohara Mar 2012 #28
The Magistrate Mar 2012 #31
11 Bravo Mar 2012 #46
Number23 Mar 2012 #102
Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #122
Summer Hathaway Mar 2012 #58
sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #99
The Magistrate Mar 2012 #101
Post removed Mar 2012 #116
Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #83
pecwae Mar 2012 #113
proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #121
cynatnite Mar 2012 #131
The Magistrate Mar 2012 #133
fascisthunter Mar 2012 #33
Summer Hathaway Mar 2012 #34
notadmblnd Mar 2012 #55
11 Bravo Mar 2012 #57
notadmblnd Mar 2012 #63
11 Bravo Mar 2012 #68
Occulus Mar 2012 #81
Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2012 #93
Summer Hathaway Mar 2012 #60
notadmblnd Mar 2012 #73
Taverner Mar 2012 #36
devilgrrl Mar 2012 #37
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Lebam in LA Mar 2012 #39
Jennicut Mar 2012 #40
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obxhead Mar 2012 #44
cleanhippie Mar 2012 #47
grantcart Mar 2012 #48
jimlup Mar 2012 #49
Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #105
jimlup Mar 2012 #132
lunatica Mar 2012 #50
11 Bravo Mar 2012 #54
lunatica Mar 2012 #62
11 Bravo Mar 2012 #65
lunatica Mar 2012 #111
11 Bravo Mar 2012 #136
MNBrewer Mar 2012 #53
bluestate10 Mar 2012 #61
proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #67
leeroysphitz Mar 2012 #69
GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #71
JVS Mar 2012 #72
Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #74
TroglodyteScholar Mar 2012 #75
Hippo_Tron Mar 2012 #77
MNBrewer Mar 2012 #94
ibegurpard Mar 2012 #78
russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #79
akbacchus_BC Mar 2012 #86
Hawkowl Mar 2012 #92
Bodhi BloodWave Mar 2012 #107
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kesmarn Mar 2012 #88
johnnie Mar 2012 #89
Tx4obama Mar 2012 #95
Rex Mar 2012 #97
ErikJ Mar 2012 #100
FLAprogressive Mar 2012 #103
Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #104
backscatter712 Mar 2012 #109
Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #110
cbdo2007 Mar 2012 #114
Tom Ripley Mar 2012 #118
emilyg Mar 2012 #119
nadine_mn Mar 2012 #120
just1voice Mar 2012 #129
nadine_mn Mar 2012 #134
otohara Mar 2012 #123
LanternWaste Mar 2012 #125
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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:52 PM

1. Hopefully the children didn't inherit his cold heart

n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:53 PM

2. Breitbart dedicated his life to taking away the safety net for other families in similar situations.

 

He does not get a pass.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:56 PM

4. Ditto n/t

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:57 PM

56. And that was his kids' fault?

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Response to WillowTree (Reply #56)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:54 PM

66. No. Is somebody attacking his kids?

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:56 AM

98. Yep.

Exactly.

The world is a better place today.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:03 AM

108. i agree. A mother lost her spouse, children lost a father.

 

My heart goes out for them. My feelings about Andrew are still the same and I do hope he finds the peace that eluded him after Obama became President.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:55 PM

3. think of how many kids that don't have a warm home to sleep in now that ACORN is gone..

fuck breitbart.

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Response to frylock (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:08 PM

7. My sentiments exactly ...if he could get more dead, I'd appreciate it.

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Response to frylock (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:38 PM

23. EXACTLY! nt

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Response to frylock (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:48 PM

124. This. Indeed.

 

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:58 PM

5. The sad irony is ...

 

Those kids will probably grow up to be better people because they weren't raised by Andrew

But yes , it is a sad thought about those kids losing their father , I couldn't imagine going through that at that age

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Response to surfdog (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:17 PM

11. They lost their father long ago (nt)

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Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:26 AM

115. good point

Don't shield him with children.

He's already left a horrible legacy for them to discover one day.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:07 PM

6. You have to be shittin me.

the grave-pissing train is full and I was one of the first one's on.

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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:17 PM

12. oh, c'mon, his kids aren't responsible for what he did. Leave them out of this.

Say what you want about him, he's a shit, and that's fine with me. But the kids, c'mon, really?

Let me tell you something. I know kids who had parents I wouldn't stand and those kids were great. It happens. Let's be generous toward the kids. If anything, it speaks to OUR humanity, in stark contrast to HIS!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:27 PM

16. nobody but the op and the idiots on the right have brought up the kids..

moreover, fuck andrew breitbart.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:40 PM

26. Their mother is Susie Bean.

Daughter of Orson Bean.

Orson Bean was blacklisted by the McCarthyites in the 1950s.

Of course, I don't know, but one can hope that with a grandfather like Orson and a mother like Susie, the kids will be just fine.

And, yes, it is disheartening to read some of the very unfair invective directed towards Breitbart that is slopping over to his kids.

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Response to earthside (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:57 PM

35. And we have this on Orson Bean

A conservative Christian, he came out in support of the Proposition 8 ballot initiative in California.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Bean

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:41 PM

137. Wow, I remenber when Bean used to like to get his freak on in an orgone box

 

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:13 PM

8. I want to see the sex tapes.

A few will get what I'm inferring.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:14 PM

9. Don't assume that raging asshole treated his kids well.

His personality points otherwise.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:16 PM

10. Having had a dad like that, I can state with confidence that 12 is too old not to know better

 

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Response to saras (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:28 PM

17. exactly!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:18 PM

13. I'm just embarassed that so many supposed fellow liberals can act like this.

 

The guy didn't murder anybody or molest any children or anything like that. Outside of those kinds of situations. what kind of psychopathic hangup must one have to celebrate someone dropping dead? I didn't like the guy, but I didn't want him dead. What the hell is wrong with people?

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:33 PM

18. Are you so sure on that "murder" front?

He destroyed ACORN by lying about it. ACORN saved a lot of lives. ACORN made sure a lot of kids had warm beds and food.

And pointing out the guy was an awful human being and we're better off without him isn't celebrating.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:39 PM

25. Yes. Murder has a definition and that doesn't fit.

 

Breitbart engaged in some very repulsive activity. I wanted to see him pay for it. I wanted to see him sued. I wanted to see him fade into irrelevancy. I didn't want to see him dead. Its not something to be happy about. If you think it is, you need your head examined.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:27 PM

45. you're concern is duly noted..

i would also like to take this opportunity to say fuck andrew breitbart.

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Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:58 PM

70. go lord your moral superiority over someone who gives a shit..

and to reiterate, fuck andrew breitbart (said in 12 year old voice).

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Response to frylock (Reply #70)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:38 AM

82. I'll lord my liberal moral superiority over anyone I feel like lording it over.

 

You can sit around and run your mouth on the internet, talking about how great it is that someone dropped dead, indulging your obvious hatred.

I can sit around and run my mouth on you and tell you how immature and disgusting such hatred is.

You want to act like a bloodthirsty, uncivilized animal, thats fine. You lose any moral highground when doing so. You also lose any right to call yourself a liberal. Liberalism is about humanity. Liberalism is about being the bigger person. Liberalism is about having a fucking heart... a bleeding fucking heart, something I am proud to have. Liberalism is why I'm lording my moral superiority over you right now. Because my liberal tendencies dictate that I take a stand against such cruel, unforgiving hatred.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #82)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:07 AM

87. clap. clap. clap.

if you think my saying fuck andrew breitbart makes me a bloodthirsty, uncivilized animal, then you really need to get out a little more often. i base my liberalism on my acts; not by hollow, meaningless condolences to some shithead that never earned an ounce of my fucking respect.

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Response to frylock (Reply #87)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:12 AM

90. fap. fap. fap.

 

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Response to frylock (Reply #70)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:01 PM

126. I imagine many people believe that acting

 

I imagine many people believe that acting in a civil and polite manner is "lording moral superiority" over someone-- I'd guess that it really depends on how low we set the bar for ourselves...

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:16 PM

76. You could continue the outrage, or you could read the 2nd part of what I wrote. (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:32 AM

106. Not to mention Shirley Sherrod.

He trashed her reputation pretty well with a few selective video edits.

While it's sad when anyone dies, his death does not erase what he did with his life.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:34 PM

20. It really is kind of sad

 

Here is a shining example of 'left-right equivalence.' This is no different from what Rush Limbaugh does when liberals die or even what Breitbart himself said about Ted Kennedy.

If people want to act that way, fine. I just hope they don't think they should be taken seriously next time they try to take the moral high ground.

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Response to RZM (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:41 PM

27. Exactly. I like to think fellow liberals have better hearts than that.

 

But thats apparently very naive of me.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:51 PM

32. Truth is, people are a lot more similar than they would like to think

 

It's not an uncommon thing when it comes to groups that are opposed to each other. It's seductive (and useful) to conceive of oneself and one's group as having nothing in common with their opposites. But in the end we're all human and do a lot of the same unsavory stuff.

Ironically, I think that was part of Breitbart's mission. He argued that liberals were not what they claimed to be nor what they perceived themselves to be. The reaction of many DUers to his death has played right into his hands.

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Response to RZM (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:21 PM

59. Did Ted Kennedy ever gravedance on someone?

Your equivalence is bullshit.

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #59)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:44 AM

84. Right on. Ted Kennedy was a true liberal who wouldn't indulge such vile hatred.

 

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Response to RZM (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:49 AM

96. And your post is a shining example of the left-right FALSE equivalence.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #96)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:08 PM

117. Why is that?

 

When someone on the left dies, there are conservatives who celebrate. When the reverse happens, there are liberals who do the same.

How is that false? Do you not read DU?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #96)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:02 PM

127. I don't think you have a firm grasp on what that means..

 

"left-right FALSE equivalence...."

I don't think you have a firm grasp on what that means..

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:48 PM

51. Thank you.

 

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Response to emilyg (Reply #51)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:38 AM

112. Ditto

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:18 PM

14. I hope he hasn't poisoned them, too.

n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:23 PM

15. can always expect people around here to

keep it classy...

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:35 PM

21. That should be used of an example of what NOT to do

 

Not justification for doing the same thing.

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Response to RZM (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:42 PM

29. Oh I would not curse him, applaud his death, or celebrate.

However, I will not feel any sorrow over his death kids or no kids.

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Response to RZM (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:43 PM

30. Exactly.

All because others do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. We should be better than that.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:35 PM

22. If his private persona was anything like his public persona....

then I can't imagine the torture it was having him as a father.

I'm not trying to be rude, but some kids are better off without their fathers than with abusive ones.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:39 PM

24. Here's a possibility. We'll never know, of course.

ACORN

Helped people

He destroyed them

How may suffered a loss as a result?

How deep and life threatening were the extreme of those losses?

How many crossed the line from extreme loss to dead?

Pure speculation, I know. but that's what I'll think about.

Yeah, it is sad about his wife and kids. But people die from natural causes. Of course, when the safety net gets ripped out, more die than need be. He contributed to the holes in the safety net.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:41 PM

28. I Have An Idea, Let's Not Talk, Think, Write

 

about this dead man.

He was a ticking time bomb w/ a heart condition.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:44 PM

31. They May Be Doing Hand-Springs, Sir, And Celebrating With Pizza

The man was a vile, pestilential degenerate, and quite likely his children, being cooped up with his vicious temper and intemperate rage all their lives, were more aware of that than most. Do not sell the young short; they are often most acute and accurate observers. The odds his children despised and hated him are pretty good.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:39 PM

46. I have been an elementary school teacher for over 35 years, sir. In that time ...

I have dealt with hundreds of young children, and while I appreciate your advice, rest assured, I have NEVER sold one short. In that time I have also dealt with numerous children who had lost a parent. I daresay that some of those parents were of less than sterling character; but I have NOT seen a single child celebrate with handsprings and a pizza party following a parental death.
You are, of course, free to speculate wildly about an issue of which I would conjecture that you are totally ignorant, ie: the relationship between Andrew Breitbart and his children.

And I FUCKING KNEW this would happen. As soon as I hit "post" I realized that all the "fuck Breitbart" folks would come at me. Never mind that the first line in my post indicated that "I despised Andrew Breitbart in life ..." and that the post was in response to my sympathies for his children. Not good enough I now surmise. His death must be celebrated! (Besides that 4 year old is probably a really nasty little mother-fucker, right? The little shitstain probably had this coming.)

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #46)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:52 AM

102. Absolutely stellar post

but I have NOT seen a single child celebrate with handsprings and a pizza party following a parental death.

If anything, their grief will be even greater knowing that the little bit they had in terms of a father figure is now gone.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #46)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:19 PM

122. children who have a parent who is difficult to love or respect, sometimes have an even harder time

when that parent dies.

Because with death, the HOPE that any kind of miracle or positive change in their parent dies with it. And believe it or not, we feel a connection to our parent even if we may also despise them.

I do expect better from "us". And I thank you for your OP 11Bravo. Breightbart is dead, no one is hurting him by dancing on his grave- His family and those who cared about him don't deserve to suffer for what he did. Especially because of some of what he did. It becomes "abyss staring" imo.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:16 PM

58. I am truly disappointed, sir

to see you weighing-in with a phrase like and quite likely his children ..."

I have known (as I'm sure you have) men who are publicly reprehensible, but loving and supportive fathers in their private lives. I have also known men who were quite the opposite - publicly mild-mannered and caring; privately tyrants in their own homes.

"The odds his children despised and hated him are pretty good." On what basis do you make such a statement? Were you close to the family? Did you personally witness "his vicious temper and intemperate rage" being visited on his kids?

Your assumptions - along with all of the other assumptions being posted here about the man's private relationship with his family - are as worthless and hateful as anything one can read on FreeRepublic about the private lives of Democrats and liberals.

Breitbart left behind a body of work that is validly criticized and justifiably shit upon by all who hated his words, his lies, and everything he stood for.

But the need to make assumptions about his personal relationship with his children, and then opine upon that pure speculation as though it were fact, is truly appalling.

"They May Be Doing Hand-Springs, Sir, And Celebrating With Pizza ..."

And they may be mourning the loss of a father they knew and loved, having known him in a different context than the public persona so many despised.

Unfortunately, it is obvious from all of the posts like your own, that the grief of the children of those we despise, or even hate, is not to be taken at face value, but is subject to suppositions that render their grief invalid or feigned.

Shame on you, Magistrate - and shame on everyone else who thinks that the innermost thoughts and feelings of the children of public figures are somehow appropriately subject to pure speculation presented as fact - no basis for the aforementioned being deemed necessary.

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Response to Summer Hathaway (Reply #58)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:01 AM

99. Thank you. I can't help thinking when I think of Breitbart, who spent so much of his

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life hating people simply because of their political views. He was willing to and did, destroy the lives of many innocent people. But now he's gone, it's all over. What was it all for? He won't be here tomorrow to gloat over the next political 'victory'. And it may even be that all that hatred contributed to his death and to leaving his children without a father.

He was already suffering the consequences of his actions. The judge's ruling last week in the Shirley Sherrod case eg, where the judge threw out his third, I believe, motion to dismiss the case. He was finally in an arena where there WAS accountability, where he could not manipulate or yell or scream his way out. He was facing having to answer questions he had refused to answer, such as 'who is funding him'.

The video of him acting like a drunken, raging lunatic also could not be dismissed, especially when a second video proved he had been drinking, and he raged even at the friend who tried to tell him that being seen with a wine-glass in his hand might not look good. He was clearly not well, either physically or mentally. All in all, as one headline said, it was a terrible week for him. The consequences of his behavior were piling up finally.

The complicit media and of course the rightwing funders were partly to blame for allowing him to think there are no consequences for our actions. And he was having a hard time facing those consequences.

I did not want him to die, I wanted him to realize some day, maybe after suffering some severe consequences, as Lee Atwater finally did, how wrong he was. And I hoped that his kind of scorched earth politics would be totally discredited. As a Liberal I hoped he would change and become a better person.

Now, aside from not being fond of grave-dancing I regret the lessons not learned and the possibility that his death will have the result of protecting those whose identities we badly needed to learn. And worst of all, that he will be elevated to some kind of hero status and his bad deeds will be covered up.

And what you said about the children I completely agree with. It is entirely possible that he was a different person in the eyes of his children, in fact it is more than likely.

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Response to Summer Hathaway (Reply #58)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:30 AM

101. Assuming Happy Normalcy, Ma'am, As You Are Doing, Is Both Annoying And Foolish

Several things ought to be gotten, and kept, straight.

First, rejoicing is the proper response to the death of an enemy. Fun is where you find it.

Second, the moral posturing involved in pretending to be 'better than' someone else is wasted energy, and generally self-defeating. Lecturing other people on this line raises the ante to extravagance.

Third, abnormal people generally do have lives marked by abnormal circumstance, and the closer the personal circle, the greater the prevalence of abnormal circumstances in it. An argument on this line you cannot win with me; your experience is not nearly broad enough.

Fourth, it is a matter of genuine moral principle that people ought to be treated in all ways as they treat others. This is the actual significance of 'the golden rule': that how someone treats other people is their instruction on how they are themselves to be treated, and indeed, is a heartfelt plea to be treated in exactly the same manner. In kindness, one can do no more than accede to this contemptible wretch's expressed desires, whatever one's own personal desires of inclinations might be, and heap scorn and distress on the creature's memory, and on any who might be so unfortunate, or foolish, as to hold the thing near and dear.

Again, it is certainly my hope that his children had the sense and courage to see through the vicious creature who spawned them, and to regard him as any human being ought to regard such a monstrous thing as Breitbart was....

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Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:42 AM

83. Very astute, Sir.

Because that is what I did when I learned of his untimely demise.

This is merely the fruits of patiently waiting for Karma to exact it's own pound of flesh. I believe I will drink a nice glass of wine and reflect on what Breitbart did to ACORN...lest I forget why Karma had his number.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 09:32 AM

113. I truly don't believe

I've read this correctly. I'm stunned, just stunned. I'm very sorry I opened this thread.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:01 PM

121. What a horrible thing to say.

I believe these children are better off without an ass for a dad but I'm certain they're grieving today. They are children, after all.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:46 PM

131. That may be true, but...

Even the most hated of men can have children that hate them. My grandfather was a raging and violent drunk. Too many in our family cowered in fear, but when he unexpectedly died it was filled with mixed emotions.

There was a sense of relief. No more would we be afraid. At the same time, we missed the fishing trips and cookouts. There were some good times. We did cry at the funerual. Our grandpa died.

It's easy to assume that this is black and white...that the man was nothing but evil. Usually, people like this are a complicated mix and it's impossible to see the good because of all the bad that he committed.

Either way, it's sad for his children. They lost their father at a very young age. It is a tragedy for them.

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #131)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:13 PM

133. The Easy Sentimentality Of the O.P. Is Seriously Annoying, Ma'am

And made even worse by its being used as a platform for posturings of moral superiority over those who express honest glee at the downfall of a vicious degenerate.

Statements that his children are grief-stricken are just as much an assumption as is the suggestion they may not be. The actuality may well be a good deal closer to the view you present than the cheap sentimentality many here are chiming in with. But we both know it is hardly unheard of, let alone impossible, for children to welcome the death of a parent, at almost any age.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:52 PM

33. they are better off

 

how's that?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:56 PM

34. Well said

And it's truly unfortunate that it needed to be said.

The self-righteous piling-on didn't take long, e.g. "his kids are better off without him, he was probably an abusive father anyway," etc.

Amazing how people will justify their totally classless remarks by simply making shit up and presenting it as 'probably' factual.

I certainly had no love for the man, or his behavior. But he's gone - and his family deserves to be left out of the baseless conjecturing as to what kind of husband or parent he was.

His public life and persona are fair game. His family is not - or shouldn't be, something that too many grave-dancers can't seem to help themselves from bringing into the discussion.



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Response to Summer Hathaway (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:57 PM

55. I agree, the kids should be left out of it. So why did the OP bring them up

Why did the OP feel compelled to express their sympathy for the children on a public forum if not to generate controversy?

The OP themselves brought the kids into it, opening the door for all the comments posted that many are now using to pontificate against those horrible, unfeeling, uncaring DU'ers. Frankly, I find the OP disingenuous (in fact, the OP stated in another post down thread, that they knew what they was inviting into the discussion.

So, someone tell me, if pot stirring wasn't the agenda here- why on earth was it even brought up?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #55)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:13 PM

57. The kids are the reason that while I do not mourn him, nor do I celebrate his passing.

It really is that simple. If it is appropriate to cheer his death, replete with reasons for said cheering; then surely it is equally acceptable to delineate the reason that while (and I'll say it again) I do not weep for his demise, nor do I celebrate it. And I could give a flying fuck that you, in your infinite wisdom, have decided that I'm somehow being disingenuous.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:31 PM

63. it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

just as you are entitled to yours

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #63)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:57 PM

68. I completely agree. Nowhere on this thread have I questioned anyone's motivation ...

nor have I told them what they should or shouldn't do. ALL I have done is to explain the simple reason why I have opted not to celebrate the death of a person who, when he was alive, I could not stand.
It's just that simple, but some DUers don't see it that way.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #57)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:29 AM

81. You made this thread to accuse us all of an assumption and then turned DIRECTLY around to

make the same assumption, in the exact opposite direction.

Here's the thing, Bravo: you can't say "you don't know that he wasn't a good father" and "you don't know how he acted in private" and also say his children deserve the sympathy from his loss. By doing so, you are saying that he was a kind and loving parent in private, and that his family will miss him, and you don't know that, nor do I. We, each of us, do not know anything about him.

What I think we do both know is that there have been a great many children and spouses in the past who have attacked or even killed their own parent, husbands, or wives due to abuse, or who have been glad to see them die naturally for the same reason. Again, we don't know that that's the case, either. We don't know anything about him except for what he put out in public. None of that appears to paint a picture of a good, kindly, and loving private persona, but we don't know that, either.

More to the point, you don't know that. Yet you posted this thread.

How about we leave his surviving family out of it, and delete/lock this whole thread? Including them, in any way, is beneath us.



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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #57)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:37 AM

93. "could give a flying fuck that you, in your infinite wisdom, have decided"

Careful. That DUer might have kids. Tsk Tsk.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #55)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:21 PM

60. It was brought up

because of the posts here today about how "those kids are better off without him", and, if they grow up to be like him, they don't deserve any sympathy.

And if you haven't seen those posts, I suggest you take a look at some of the replies to the many threads on the topic. They're quite an eye-opener.

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Response to Summer Hathaway (Reply #60)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:08 PM

73. Nope, the OP wasn't about comments that have been made in other posts here

to paraphrase- there are four kids without a dad. I did not like him and I will not dance on his grave. I'll be thinking of his kids.

That comment opened the door for others to express their sentiments. Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth began as a result of some of those comments. I simply found my self wondering why it was even brought up- if it wasn't to evoke those sentiments?

Imo, it is a silly process we go through here at DU every time someone on the right passes. Where is it written that once someone dies that nothing mean is to be said about them? Who made that rule? That man was a vile, despicable human being and believe it or not, many lives were negatively impacted by this tool of the right wing. Many people said many nasty things about him when he was alive and most all were in agreement. Why can anything mean be a said now?

They're entitled to be angry and they are entitled to express their sentiments whether you, me or anyone else likes what they have to say. Now I haven't spent my day perusing the AB threads looking for negative comments about his children, nor will I spend my evening doing it.

If as you say, the post was a result of the nasty comments of Britebarts' children, why wasn't the OP comments posted in the offensive thread? Why was the OP compelled to start a thread of their own, if not to stir the pot? Why didn't the OP simply alert on the nasty comments and have a jury decide it?

The OP has expressed to me publicly that they do not give a Flying F*#! what I think and that's ok, I'm sure that what I have to say isn't going to make a bit of difference in their lives just as their won't make a difference to mine.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:57 PM

36. This is true, however in the end it's a good thing

 

Since Their dad would have just fucked them up with abuse and rage...

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:00 PM

39. One of our clients is a close friend

Last edited Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Got a call from one of our clients this morning. He said they are all very upset. All I could do was say how sorry I was for their loss. Feel very sorry for his family.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:00 PM

40. I feel sorry that his kids had to have a father that was nasty, vile and cruel.

But I also feel bad that their father has died.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:03 PM

41. Let's NOT imitate Andrew, but

If Obama died, he would be cheering, so let us show we are better than that.

All the same, just because I hope his family is OK, does not mean that I will mourn the passing of someone who hurt many, and would have gladly put many into early graves, and who would indeed have popped champagne over their graves.

Some people do make this world a better place by dying, and if there is a Hell, some do deserve it.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:08 PM

42. I DON'T FEEL sorry for him or his family.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:20 PM

44. They are likely very sad today.

 

However, I hope their minds will be filled with far less vile hate now that their asshole of a father is out of their lives for good.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:42 PM

47. Wait, are you saying it was better to have AB for a father than no father at all?

I think a strong argument could be made against that.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:43 PM

48. those kids are now liberated from a hate filled regime.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:43 PM

49. Have to agree... stop the grave dancing

Maybe there is more to this story than we know anyway. "Natural Causes" was a little too front and center on the news release for my liking...

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Response to jimlup (Reply #49)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:59 AM

105. What, and let all those dance lessons go to waste??

I was doing the tango when I first heard about it.
But, I quickly changed the music to do the rumba because it has a different beat.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #105)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:01 PM

132. Sure but well sorry I'm just trying hard to hide my glee

This man was really the worst wasn't he?

Any updates on the circumstances of his death? Heart Attack?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:47 PM

50. That just sounds fake to me

His kids are not affected by what we say on this forum. If DUers went to their house and cheered that their father is dead that would be something to condemn.

Why are you dragging his kids into this anyway? No one else has.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #50)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:56 PM

54. I was explaining why, while I do not mourn him, nor do I celebrate his passing.

The reason for my lack of celebration is his kids. Is that really so difficult to comprehend?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #54)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:28 PM

62. Who the hell has even asked you to celebrate?

And who here has attacked his children?

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Response to lunatica (Reply #62)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:44 PM

65. Ummm, it's an internet message board, genius.

If it's appropriate to celebrate his death and explain why someone is celebrating; then it is equally acceptable to explain why one is NOT celebrating his death. That's all I did. As for your predictable bullshit "Who the hell has even asked you to celebrate?", the answer is nobody. Where the Hell did I claim that someone had? Equally phony is your, "Who here has attacked his children?" The answer is not me. And nowhere on this thread have I accused anyone else of doing so.
Frankly, your lack of reading comprehension skills are your issue, not mine; but when you imply that I said something which I did not, you're engaging in exactly the kind of straw man dogshit that I can find on any right-wing message board.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #65)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:37 AM

111. You're not so sweet after all are you?

LOL!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #111)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:38 PM

136. LOL? Easily amused, aren't you?

But in answer to your hysterically funny question, if I can stop guffawing long enough, I'll try to answer: Nope, and I never claimed to be. (But now we're back to that whole pesky reading comprehension thing, aren't we?)

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:56 PM

53. I'm sure they are

But I'll be raising a toast to his becoming a corpse.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:25 PM

61. I would rather have fought Breibart until hell froze over than see a person die so young. nt

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:55 PM

67. They are better off without an asshole for a dad.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:58 PM

69. The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few.

 

In time these kids will come to understand that theiir father was a scumbag peice oif shit and that the country is richer for having lost him.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:03 PM

71. You might want to consider ...

that those 4 children are better off without him.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:05 PM

72. I can't seem to give a shit.

There are plenty of kids out there tonight who are missing better dads than that.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:09 PM

74. Breitbart went after OWS participants, many of whom have children in need in help.

 

My heart goes out to his family for their loss, but I can't say that I'll be wallowing in sorrow tonight.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:09 PM

75. And all four of them are better of without him.

Quit pretending it's not true.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:05 PM

77. I don't wish death upon anybody

What I wish is for them to one day see the evil of their ways, or to have their entire worldview collapse.

I considered Jesse Helms to be a vile human being. Several months after he died I noted that it was a damn shame that he didn't live to see a black man elected President and a Democrat take over his Senate seat.

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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #77)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:40 AM

94. Wished upon or not, death comes to everyone

Caught up with Breitbart sooner rather than later. I feel sadder about the 25 year old man I knew who died in his sleep a few weeks ago. He was a good guy. Breitbart was a ratfucker. Good riddance.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:20 PM

78. As I said in another thread

my condolences to his family and anyone else who loved him. The rest of us are better off with him gone.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #78)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:54 PM

79. I wish he would die again tomorrow.

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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #79)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:49 AM

86. Are you for real? How will his children be better off without him?

You going to provide monetary support for them. They are grieving, what a foolish thing to say!

A husband and a father is gone and you say that? Are you really a democract?

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Reply #86)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:23 AM

92. They may indeed be better off without him.

 

Maybe his sole purpose was to serve as an example of what NOT to be. Such a hateful excuse for a human being could very well have been a terrible father. Not all children love their fathers when they don't deserve it.

And of course, Fuck Breitbart.

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Response to Hawkowl (Reply #92)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:42 AM

107. i will accept that he 'might' have been a terrible father

but i don't see how that is any reason to seemingly state it as a fact like many here on this thread and others do, for all we know he might have been a very loving and caring family man(I've had enough friends where one(or both) of the parents have been quite like him in public but basically a saint when it comes to their families). Is that something you could accept, that he might have been a great parent?

Obviously I'm in the ' I'm saddened and slightly disgusted at the grave dancing ' camp

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:04 AM

80. I also refuse to grave dance. I feel for his family's loss.

But I also don't have any sadness over his passing.

If there's a continuation of our energy after death, however, I do pray for his enlightenment in the bardo.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:45 AM

85. Thank you, that is the adult way to deal with a death in a family!

May he rest in peace and condolences to his family, wife and children. 43 is really young too young to go regardless of his politics!

Keep up the good work on here and do not go with the grave dancing.

Best regards to you

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:08 AM

88. Thanks for staying human

Four kids are missing their dad tonight. You're right. I'm feeling some relief that Breitbart won't be hurting any more people.
But I'm also reminded of the admonition: "Don't become the thing you hate." I'm hoping we can resist giving him his posthumous victory: speaking/acting/feeling the way he did.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:10 AM

89. I guess those drinks he needed were a bit more important than him being with his family

Maybe those few drinks were enough to push his heart over the edge. If he would have stayed home with his family instead of hitting the bars, he may have had one more day to spend with his kids.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:42 AM

95. Sorry but you are wrong. He will be spewing more hate and more falsehoods. See below ...


See THIS here for what's coming: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101714299

p.s. I feel for his children BUT he is still an asshole and disgusting human being and he himself had nothing good to say about the dead
especially about Senator Kennedy: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/26/57997/breitbart-kennedy-twitter/


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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:52 AM

97. I never gave the guy a second thought.

 

He went total emo-rage at OWS and that was it. That is how I will remember him. 43 is so young to die. I wonder if he had high blood pressure?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:17 AM

100. Speaking on behalf of..............

 

Speaking on behalf of America's poor, children, homeless, minorities, workers, women, gays, seniors, unemployed, sick, the middle and lower class and the Earth-GOOD RIDDANCE BREITBART!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:57 AM

103. And think of how many mothers & fathers he railroaded....I'm sure his family will be well off.

I shed no tears.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:55 AM

104. Does Rush Limbaugh have kids??

Because there is no way that I'm going to care about their daddy when he drops dead, either.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #104)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:23 AM

109. Illegitimate ones... in the Dominican Republic... n/t

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #109)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:35 AM

110. Anal sex cannot result in pregnancy.

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #110)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:19 AM

114. In women it can, but yeah not in men or boys.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:17 PM

118. I don't know if they will miss drunken fondling or not

 

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Response to Tom Ripley (Reply #118)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:50 PM

119. Can you back this up?

 

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:56 PM

120. I will never be a grave dancer- whether he had kids or not

I'm not sad he is gone, but I refuse to engage in some of the behavior seen here. Thank you for your post

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Response to nadine_mn (Reply #120)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:36 PM

129. You likely hate "The Wizard Of Oz" too

 

with their song "Ding Dong The Witch is Dead". They celebrated "grave-dancing" in that movie and for good reason.

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Response to just1voice (Reply #129)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:14 PM

134. Wait - what did the witch ever do to Dorothy?

It was Dorothy who killed the Witch's sister (ok her house), then she took her sister's ruby slippers - Dorothy had no claim to those slippers.



I am never "happy" when someone dies - I wasn't happy when Bin Laden was killed, when Saddam was executed, etc. I don't celebrate the death of anyone - no matter how horrible they were in life. Its just not my thing.

I am not saddened either. But I will never cheer the death of anyone.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:44 PM

123. They will survive

 

Like many of us without fathers do everyday

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:55 PM

125. I feel the same way.

 

I feel the same way.

Hate is too freely given, anyway. And I'd certainly not predicate my own vulgarity on his lest I become the very thing I criticize.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:34 PM

128. The truth is they are better off without an abusive father

 

Still a sad situation for the kids, either way.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:03 PM

130. Do you think he treated his family better

than he treated others? I don't think so. I wonder if they will live torn with grief and relief.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:39 PM

135. Of all the Breitbart threads, this one has probably elicited the dumbest reactions

 

I mean that about the replies, not the OP. As if anybody here has the slightest idea what his family life was like.

I actually find it a little troubling that some people seem to think being a conservative blowhard and dirty trickster renders one incapable of normal family life. It's one small step in the ongoing mission (practiced by by the mean-spirited on both the left right) to completely dehumanize the other side.

That's kind of scary, because what happens when that process is finally finished and enough people on both extremes no longer view the other side as worthy of basic human rights? I fear that if this process isn't reversed, it will all end in tears.

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