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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC replaying the entire morning 9/11 coverage to the minute... again...
Do they do this each year to give Dick Cheney his annual erection?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Some day somebody there will learn that having real reporters and a legit news cast is all it takes...
meanwhile we have VICE
onehandle
(51,122 posts)They didn't know that he had wet his pants and would run for half the day.
alsame
(7,784 posts)that he's been told there have been no recent credible threats.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Let's make that toady Secretary of State!
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)It was in the entryway of the gym, with its back to me. Had no idea what was happening.
I walked over and my eyes met the screen just as the second tower was hit.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)I didn't/couldn't turn the TV off.
On September 14 - I took my parrot with me on a bird watching trip down to Cape May, NJ. The view from the Turnpike was one I'll never forget.
While I was in south Jersey ... the TV in my motel room was never turned on.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I lived on the west coast, PST, so was generally 3 hours behind the east coast, but I was visiting my parents, who were MST...so when my 13 month old woke up at 6 am or so (MST) I got up...normally I'd go back to bed, but my child was unusually hyper. Plus my parents were up getting ready for work and making a lot of noise. So I stumbled out to the living room to turn on CNN. There wasn't anything interesting so I started flipping channels. Then I saw an image of the world trade center on fire (the first one hit) on some obscure channel (that was not a news channel). So I flipped back to CNN and they had just started coverage of the first tower that was hit. I flipped back and forth from CBS to NBC to CNN to ABC. And I watched the rest unfold.
It was really really unusual that I was up that early or that my child was up early or was hyper. She usually slept late and was the easiest toddler ever. If I hadn't been at my parents' I probably would've tried to get her back to bed, as it would've been 5 am that she woke me up. So it was a total fluke that I saw everything from beginning to end.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)if you want to.
BainsBane
(53,010 posts)I won't be turning on the news today. It's also the 40 year anniversary of the coup against Salvador Allende in Chile. Will they be covering that? I seriously doubt it.
maryellen99
(3,785 posts)The old NBC coverage of JFK's assassination as well. It's a wound that this country still hasn't healed from.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)One day ill sit with my children and watch it
vdogg
(1,384 posts)An unfiltered history lesson for them too. There are not many instances in all of human history where we have live, detailed, and unfiltered reactions to a historic event of this magnitude. Not showing it is not going to change the fact that it happened.
And as parents we can tell them what they need to know as they grow older with it
Lex
(34,108 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)1 day of the year.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Tragedy fetish?
The coverage is over on msnbc. You can uncover yourself now.
Lex
(34,108 posts)I truly do.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)It's on Lexington avenue at the Armory where the initial missing person headquarters was staged. Pictures of lost family members on walls that spread for blocks in all directions.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Much as are those who watch video clips of the attacks on civil rights demonstrators or U.S. ships in Pearl Harbor on fire...?
(Insert distinction without a difference here)
bunnies
(15,859 posts)How many years are they going to replay this? And who the hell wants to watch it over and over and over again? I thought for sure a decade of doing this would have been long enough. Nope! This is disgusting.
Atman
(31,464 posts)We were watching the morning news when the story broke. I immediately said "Oh, this is going to be big!" and slipped a tape into the VCR, set to slow speed, and just let it record all day. I occasionally switched over to NBC, but mostly left it on CNN. There is some pretty fascinating commentary as they tried to guess what was going on, then started speculating.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Do any of you live in NYC or Washinton DC?
vdogg
(1,384 posts)I had an uncle stationed at the Pentagon who we couldn't get a hold of for the entire day afterwards. It was fairly nerve wracking though everything turned out ok in the end. I don't think it's stupid at all to play this.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Thanks
frylock
(34,825 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)So let's dial it back a little
Secondly, for several years I was hired to be there; usually starting my day around 2a and finishing around 4
I'm on leave now, so yes I watch it on TV. I communicate with people I went thru it with. And remember those I knew who didn't make it.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)It happened 12 years ago.
I hate the annual media masturbation on this day.
jsr
(7,712 posts)9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 ......
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Who's going to celebrate??
I sure wouldnt
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)Kids wouldn't be in school to learn about the events on the actual day that it happened.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I can't take being re-traumatized each year.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)"I looked at the calendar yesterday, and I couldn't believe my eyes9/11 is almost here!" a rosy-cheeked Cheney said upon returning to the White House Sunday with two giant bags overflowing with gift-wrapped boxes and big red bows. "It's the most wonderful time of the year."
While Cheney is known by many to be cold and taciturn for the other 11 months of the year, those close to the vice president say there is something about the 9/11 season that puts a smile on his face and a spring in his step. Each Sept. 11 morning since 2001, Cheney has come to work donning a fireman costume and handed out small, thoughtful gifts to all White House staffers. In addition, at his home on 9/11 Eve, Cheney lays out large piles of presents for his children and grandchildren underneath the colorfully lit, six-foot-tall 9/11 towers that he sets up by the fireplace.
"I think I've outdone myself this yearI bought the president a box of cigars and a brand-new fountain pen, I got Condoleezza [Rice] a beautiful blue blazer, and for my wife [Lynne] I bought a diamond necklace, a new winter coat, and this neat little motorized airplane ornament to hang on the 9/11 towers," Cheney told reporters while perusing the windows of New York's famed Park Avenue shops. "And for [grandson] Samuel I bought about a million toys and games and 9/11 nutcrackers. I probably went a little bit overboard, but it's his first 9/11, and I want it to be as special as my first 9/11."
Your post reminded me of this oldie but goody.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)I don't see the big deal. It's an event, it happened, it's history. It's gonna have an effect on our national psyche for a long time. I don't view this any differently than say playing King's I have a dream speech on MLk day, or Roosevelt's address to congress on the aniversary of Pearl Harbor. Maybe I'm missing something.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Watching thousands of people dying is like a speech?
vdogg
(1,384 posts)You didn't just trot out that straw man argument knowing damn well I'm not comparing speeches to people dying. No, I am saying those are replayed as the most memorable parts of historical events. If we had wall to wall cameras back then at Pearl Harbor like we did in New York then you better believe they'd be replaying it.
I don't view this any differently than say playing King's I have a dream speech on MLk day
Those are your words. No?
vdogg
(1,384 posts)As I clarified in my next reply to you, which I'm sure you must have read. " No, I am saying those are replayed as the most memorable parts of historical events." Lets take the JFK assassination, which is played relentlessly on that anniversary to this day. Watching that isn't all rainbows and unicorns either, but it happened. If you don't want to see it, change the freaking channel or turn it off. Honestly, I swear, some people live to be outraged...
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Bless your heart. Some people cant get enough of replaying death and destruction. And some people find that disgusting. Funny... all these years and I dont recall a single replay of JFKs head being blown apart by a bullet. Maybe some people seek that kind of thing out.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And that it doesn't have an "off" button. And that someone has strapped you to a chair in front of it so that you are forced to watch it.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Won't be watching.
avebury
(10,951 posts)endless hours on every December 7th going over and over the attack of Pearl Harbor. There is a huge difference between wanting to remember those who died and using this day as an annual effort to stir up the fear among the masses in order to try to gain complacency in the MIC's efforts to perpetuate war (someplace, anyplace to maintain profits) and Government/Corporate/1%ers movement to-wards using "Homeland Security" money to suppress the little people.
The powers to be have been salivating to find a way to erode civil liberties, control the masses, and wrest permanent control over this country for years. 9-11 gave them the means to achieve their life long dreams under the guise of fighting "terrorists." If 9-11 had not happened I have no doubt they would have found another opportunity to achieve their goals.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)I assure you that 12 years after Pearl Harbor (and only 7 after the end of WWII) that attack was still fresh in people's minds too. I wouldn't be surprised if they were even replaying news reels, or having large commemorative events. In time 9/11, like all major events, will fade from memory and daily life. 12 years is really not a lot of time to have passed in a historical context.
avebury
(10,951 posts)Pearl Harbor and 9-11 was that our Government did not make long term changes that eroded our civil liberties and Constitutional Rights. Yes, there were Japanese who were put in internment camps (which was very disgraceful). But you did not see warrant less wiretaps, Renditions, whistle blowers being persecuted while Corporate/1 %ers/Government criminals are not held accountable for their actions. Pearl Harbor does not even hold a candle to the long term consequences to the American people resulting from 9-11.
9-11 gave the powers to be the opportunity to do everything they have done under the guise of protecting the US from terrorists while at the same time diverting attention from the internal threats that have never been dealt with. The US might have gotten Bin Laden but make no mistake, he was successful. This country will never be the way is used to be. Just look at what is happening now. Instead of focusing on internal matters, they are trying to make Syria the main issue. Americans are just too easily distracted.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)You can't just brush off interment camps first of all. It's not like those people just went back home and resumed ordinary life. And it wasn't just Japanese interned. It was the entirety of the race.
And just because we didn't "see" things you list does not mean they didn't happen.
As far as long term consequences, here are three words:
Military industrial complex
Or
Thermonuclear hydrogen bomb
Or
Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan
Or
Global arms race
avebury
(10,951 posts)is that the efforts of the MIC, Corporations, 1%ers and Politicians are being channeled internally throughout the entire country - not just one race - everybody. Getting involved in external conflicts/issues is all about - profits for the MIC/Corporations, maintaining an environment of fear, and distracting the masses from remaining focused on what is going on within our own country and demanding change.
Just look that the mass media entertainment that is churned out - more and more reality shows which is the 21st Century equivalent of the masses going to the Colusseum to watch the gladiators. They want to dumb down the citizenry. Most people have the attention span of a gnat which allows those in power to remain in power.
swayne
(383 posts)If we really wanted to see this, we could buy the DVD or tape.