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He allegedly hit his wife's father and threatened him with a gun.
That's a felony.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)it is not going to go as well for you this time...
David Krout
(423 posts)AZ Mike
(468 posts)....he's a weak, pudgy wimp who was one of the worst MMA students of all time!
tblue
(16,350 posts)Sanford PD, you guys proud of your work? Glad you put that murderer, with his weapon, back on the street?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Arrested Again
Arrested AgainGeorge Zimmerman is still playing with guns. Zimmerman was taken into custody following another gun incident in Central Florida. This incident involves his wife and father-in-law, Colin Morgan and occurred at the parents of Shellie Zimmermans home; his estranged wife.
Police in Lake Mary County were called to the home on Sprucewood Road following a report received on Monday afternoon concerning an altercation which involves Zimmerman. The Police are still trying to conclude what exactly took place.
Shellies attorney, Kelly Sims, told ABC News that Zimmerman pulled a knife on her after she found a gun in the house they shared. He then pulled a firearm on her and her father after a verbal altercation went sour.
http://guardianlv.com/2013/09/zimmerman-back-in-police-custody-still-playing-with-guns-video/
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I hope that they don't lead to a defense strategy.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)What could go wrong?
madaboutharry
(40,147 posts)of meds for a 30 year old.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I'm glad they grabbed 'em.
florida08
(4,106 posts)Wish Sabrina Fulton could sue the lawyers that got him off
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)However the DA could still bring charges if they want to.
But I'll be that they won't want to.
florida08
(4,106 posts)if not to press charges? I did hear they kept his gun
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Sometimes not pressing charges is done out of fear of retribution, which is one of the reasons DAs can proceed without the complaint.
I'm not surprised at this development, it happens more often than not.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Poor woman.
gopiscrap
(23,673 posts)to do so like the last time. Shame those fuckers into it!
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)and the knife to cut the seatbelts before the whole thing burst into flames.
tblue37
(64,979 posts)He is serving prison time.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)Looks like a 10 year mandatory minimum sentence in Floriday, and only the prosecutor can waive the minimum sentence... not a judge.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Aggravated Assault with a Firearm
Under Florida law, the criminal offense of misdemeanor assault alleges that the defendant committed an act that threaten imminent violence. If a weapon is used, the charge is the the criminal offense of felony aggravated assault. If the offense charged is Aggravated Assault with a Firearm, under Florida Statute Section 784.021, the following elements must be proven beyond all reasonable doubt:
-The defendant unlawfully and intentionally threatened another person by saying or doing something.
-At a time that the defendant made the threat he appeared to have the ability to carry out the threat.
-The act of the defendant caused the alleged victim to have a well-founded fear that the violence was about to take place.
-The defendant used a firearm by pointing the firearm at the victim in a manner which threatened to use the weapon in a way likely to produce death or great bodily harm; and
-The defendant had a fully-formed, conscious intent to commit the aggravated assault with a firearm upon the alleged victim.
The prosecution is not required to prove that the defendant intended to kill anyone under Florida law. An aggravated assault is a third degree felony punishable by five (5) years in Florida State Prison and a $5,000 fine. If the assault involved the actual possession of a firearm, then the offense also carries with it a three (3) year minimum mandatory prison sentence, meaning that if you are convicted, the court must sentence you to at least three (3) years in Florida State Prison.
Florida aggravated assault occurs when a deadly weapon is used without the intent to kills but with an intent to commit a felony. Lesser included offenses include improper exhibition of a dangerous weapon or firearm under Florida Statute 790.01, and discharging firearms in public under Florida Statutes 790.15.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)I doubt he would. Too high profile.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,079 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)alsame
(7,784 posts)Stuart G
(38,357 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)His father-in-law was wearing a hoodie!
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)His ex was munching some Skittles.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,079 posts)CitizenLeft
(2,791 posts)Just unfuckingbelievable.
FSogol
(45,355 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Good thing nobody was hurt this time around, at least.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Good Morning America?@GMA
George Zimmerman remains detained. Estranged wife & her father refuse to give sworn statement; say they do not want to press charges. - @ABC
This was just posted at 4:20p
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)gopiscrap
(23,673 posts)of course it's about the god damn money. If she charges him and he gets convicted, then it will hurt his life narrative.
florida08
(4,106 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)But if he ends up in the big house, they will have to put him in protective custody.
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)Away with his firearms.
I don't even care if he does any time for this stupidity. Convict him and pull his ability to possess firearms. I'll applaud loudly.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....??
Shellie needs a restraining order STAT.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... She obviously doesn't realize she's smack dab in the middle of a domestic-violence situation and there's no "curing" George, this isn't "what marriages are like", she didn't "deserve it" and oh yes it WILL happen again (and other abuse-victim mindset self talk statements).
She needs to put on her big girl panties and get the hell away from him while she's still alive.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)All the advice is to get safely away, get sheltered anonymously if you have to do so.
He has motive to kill her. She knows the truth of what he did that night.
Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)Different thing entirely!
glinda
(14,807 posts)TBF
(31,919 posts)with "stand your ground" anything goes. And that's just what Georgie does - wanders about, gun drawn, standing his ground.
Vanje
(9,766 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)a simple misdemeanor.
And then he'll come back and kill Shelly and her family.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)"They both have declined to press charges against George," Bracknell said. "We have no victim, no crime."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-in-custody-gun-20130909,0,4880482.story?Sdsdae
Roland99
(53,342 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)There are no children involved, so I do not think she would get anything, unless there was a huge estate.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)go to bat for him every single time no matter what he does.
What does he have on his wife? She lies for him. Steals for him. She has her father lie and steal for him.
This is fucking ridiculous!!!
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)What's the law in Florida?
Here in California, for domestic violence, they don't need the victim to press charges, the state is the injured party.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Rights of the "Victim" are cast aside.
For example, a couple that routinely expresses themselves by abrupt physical contact (like the way Elaine on the TV show Seinfeld routinely shoved other characters and said "get out!" are not committing crimes against each other even though such an act has all the elements of a battery.
When the State files a charge of domestic violence the victim has specific statutory rights. Among these are the statutory right to be present at all proceedings and hearings relating to (1) the arrest of the accused, (2) the release or modification of release conditions of the accused pending judicial proceedings, (3) and the prosecution of the accused.
Additionally the victim has a right to express views about the (1) release of the accused pending judicial proceedings, (2) any plea agreement, (3) participation in pretrial diversion programs, and (4) sentencing of the accused.
So what happens when the "victim" expresses the view that she does not want to testify or prosecute the case against the accused? Often the victim's expression is ignored - even when the alleged victim's expression indicates that she is not a victim of a crime.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)only woman shot because she dared to leave her abusive husband. If he gets out she needs to be extra careful.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... Etc say so much about HIM.
She couldn't be the textbook abused wife if she didn't have an abusive asshole husband.
It's painfully plain to anyone who's worked with domestic violence survivors what their marriage is probably like. Sad that it was never brought to the jury's attention in the Martin trial - Z is obviously an insecure bully with a bad temper & delusions of grandeur.
Sigh.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)he's so misunderstood by those who said he would act out again. I can't wait for his apologists to show up. Shellie Z. better go into hiding herself and get one of those 250 ft distance restraining orders, quickly. This guy is death waiting to claim his next murder victim. Oh but he was found not guilty by a jury of HIS peers. free to stalk society with a gun in his waistband. And at this very moment still walking free. Zimpig better be glad he looks white.
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)He was assaulted. It might take the heat off SZ.
Don't some states prosecute spousal abusers even if the spouse won't file?
David Krout
(423 posts)Ilsa
(61,675 posts)GZ punched him in the face.
I guess she's a liar, too.
David Krout
(423 posts)Do you know if she is?
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)her dad and assess whether he looks injured.
I listened to that part of the call. If it didn't happen, she put on a pretty good show.
I don't trust either one, but SZ doesn't appear to be as dangerous as GZ.
wild bird
(421 posts)http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/09/20406563-police-called-to-incident-between-george-zimmerman-wife
Police have already interviewed all those involved.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)It's no different than getting an alcoholic drunk and handing them the keys to a car.
Faygo Kid
(21,477 posts)It's all the fault of the "librul media" and his "slutty" wife. Nope, Georgie can do no wrong in FReeperville.
He killed a black kid, ya know. Now if he can carry through with hurting or killing his soon to be ex-wife, they'll erect a statue of him.
Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)and they ain't pretty like a rainbow
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Freepers are threatened by black men, and many of they have had issues with women in their past.
If you listen to any right wing talk radio station you notice during that most of the commercials are for: gun shops, male enhancement pills, divorce/DUI lawyers, and men's rights advocates. Station owners know their audience, and their audience strongly identifies with GZ, for the reasons I mentioned.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)you know, suspicious.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)The wife has changed her story and now claims he didn't have a gun. Z's been released and no charges filed.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody-after-incident-with-gun-police-say/-/1637132/21851424/-/tlxm3oz/-/index.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)He was in fear for his life.