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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. When I think about the hundreds dying in fire in Syria I wish it were possible.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:57 AM
Sep 2013

I wish there were some way to put a stop to that crime. And similar crimes throughout the world in places that aren't seen as geopolitically important. Little genocides constantly committed, while we do nothing.

I don't believe that dropping a few bombs on Syria will make any positive difference so I'm opposed to bombing Syria. And I understand that UN isn't likely to step up to the plate due to the security council nations acting out of their own interests. So there really isn't anything to do, but sit back and accept that if any dictator around the world wants to burn or machete or shoot their citizens we can't really do anything about it.

Bryant

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. I hear ya, Bryant.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:42 AM
Sep 2013

What we could do instead of making war is waging peace.

Friends don't hurt friends, they help them.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Woke up a lot of people about the true picture in Vietnam.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:44 AM
Sep 2013

According to the Pentagon Papers, the United States moved in secret to “disassociate” France from the levels of command, in southern Vietnam and to assume direct American control. This task was assigned to the newly formed CIA which, during the summer of 1954, invented a “republic of Vietnam” with Saigon as its capital. This was known by those assigned to the task as “creating the master illusion.”

— John Pilger, Heroes, (Jonathan Cape 1986, Vintage 2001), pp.183 - 184

SOURCE: http://www.globalissues.org/article/402/media-propaganda-and-vietnam

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Absolutely! Destroy a nation to save it. Billy Graham got it via the use of flooding.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:59 AM
Sep 2013

When Billy Graham Planned to Kill One Million People

by Alexander Cockburn
CounterPunch MARCH 12, 2002

There’s a piquant contrast in the press coverage across the decades of Billy Graham’s various private dealings with Nixon, as displayed on the tapes gradually released from the National Archive or disclosed from Nixon’s papers. I’ll come shortly to the recent flap over Graham and Nixon’s closet palaverings about the Jews, but first let’s visit another interaction between the great evangelist and his commander in chief Back in April, l989 a Graham memo to Nixon was made public. It took the form of a secret letter from Graham, dated April 15, 1969, drafted after Graham met in Bangkok with missionaries from Vietnam. These men of God said that if the peace talks in Paris were to fail, Nixon should step up the war and bomb the dikes. Such an act, Graham wrote excitedly, "could overnight destroy the economy of North Vietnam".

Graham lent his imprimatur to this recommendation. Thus the preacher was advocating a policy to the US Commander in Chief that on Nixon’s own estimate would have killed a million people. The German high commissioner in occupied Holland, Seyss-Inquart, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg for breaching dikes in Holland in World War Two. (His execution did not deter the USAF from destroying the Toksan dam in North Korea, in 1953, thus deliberately wrecking the system that irrigated 75 per cent of North Korea’s rice farms.)

This disclosure of Graham as an aspirant war criminal did not excite any commotion when it became public in 1989, twenty years after it was written. I recall finding a small story in the Syracuse Herald-Journal. No one thought to chide Graham or even question him on the matter. Very different has been the reception of a new tape revealing Graham, Nixon and Haldeman palavering about Jewish domination of the media and Graham invoking the "stranglehold" Jews have on the media.

On the account of James Warren in the Chicago Tribune, who has filed excellent stories down the years in Nixon’s tapes, media, in this 1972 Oval Office session between Nixon, Haldeman and Graham, the President raises a topic about which "we can’t talk about it publicly," namely Jewish influence in Hollywood and the media.

Nixon cites Paul Keyes, a political conservative who is executive producer of the NBC hit, "Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In," as telling him that "11 of the 12 writers are Jewish." "That right?" says Graham, prompting Nixon to claim that Life magazine, Newsweek, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and others, are "totally dominated by the Jews." Nixon says network TV anchors Howard K. Smith, David Brinkley and Walter Cronkite "front men who may not be of that persuasion," but that their writers are "95 percent Jewish."

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/06/zubin-mehtas-unequal-music/

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
7. an oxymoron
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:02 PM
Sep 2013

Except there is the possibility--how remote I can't say--that strikes on air force infrastructure could end up saving lives by impairing Assad's ability to deliver chemical weapons and drop bombs more generally. It appears, however, that Obama is willingly to be pushed into a more extensive military involvement in order to get Republican support for intervention.

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