DU Activists: TIME TO GET INTO ACTION ON SYRIA!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

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There was a time back in the day when DU would kick it into high gear and make our voices heard on important issues. It's that time again. We are looking a potential military strike on a foreign country -- there isn't any more serious issue for us to weight in on. Let's hammer'em.

We have a week to make a difference. Please keep this kicked so that others can access this important information.

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[KoKo]

1. Thanks...! I've bookmarked.

Hopefully when they get back there will be a blitz. Many are already contacting their Congresscritters.

But, a big push when they get back would be great. There are some petitions out there circulating from DFA...I think.

[Catherina]

2. Bookmarked for frequent calling. Thanks n/t

[gopiscrap]

3. Done

we also need to take to the streets

[tokenlib]

5. Sat, Sept 7th March from White House to Capital..

ANSWER is announcing it. If it goes like the Iraq protests..I would expect United For Peace and Justice and other groups to join. The Pope is calling for prayer and fasting the same day

[gopiscrap]

6. we need to have them in cities all over the nation

[tokenlib]

8. That appears to be the goal...

ANSWER has a San Francisco event on the 7th as well. They are planning events in other cities too. United for Peace is getting geared up too. Things are happening and hopefully groups will get together like they did for Iraq.

[gopiscrap]

9. good I also think that on the evening of Spet 8th

we should try to have a coordinated world wide vigil

[Le Taz Hot]

4. The WH is deaf to those of us not part of the 1%.

Feinstein is salivating at the thought of making more millions on another war. Boxer will never go along with it. I've written, I've called, I've marched, I've protested and NONE of it made any different during the IWR. Nothing is going to get through to these soulless sellouts until we take to the streets EN MASSE.

[HardTimes99]

12. Hey there. I too participated massively from 2001-08, protesting against the various

outrages. Here's what I think I've learned. ANSWER sponsored marches and rallies in downtown Los Angeles on weekends when the streets were empty and the only people watching were Latino and Asian shopkeepers and patrons. The media ignored us for the most part and we got more attention from the LAPD and various other security goons. So, starting in early 2004, I switched from attending the large rallies and demos and instead began attending weekly anti-war vigils in my neighborhood. I think doing this was a more effective tactic for getting the message out to rank and file working- and middle-class Angelenos. (I read that at one point there were some 100 of these regular local vigils happening in the Los Angeles metropolitan area alone.)

So I'm not sure I agree with you that "NONE of it made any different," as I can attest to seeing the mood change from pro-Bush, pro-war to anti-Bush, anti-war on an almost weekly basis in West Los Angeles. Whether that mood changed because of our vigil or in spite of it I do not have any way of knowing. But I'd like to at least flatter myself that local vigilling is an effective way to convey messages to your community.

Just a thought and, btw, 'thanks' for protesting against Bush. Makes you a hero(ine) in my book.

[Left Coast2020]

13. You just reminded me of something HardTimes..

Do you remember the "Freeway Blogger"?

(This is for others as well).

When the Duffus was squatting in the WH, the Freeway Blogger used to post handmade signs on freeway over-passes in major cities.

I haven't checked his site since duffus left office, but I guess I could now--as we all could for those who are unfamiliar with his form of "getting the message out".

Wow! Not sure what it was HT, but something triggered my memory banks to mention this.

"Should have had a V-8".

UPDATE: Yup. He's still on-the-air and running.
http://www.freewayblogger.com/

[HardTimes99]

14. What Angeleno could ever forget the Freeway Blogger? My personal fav was the

one that said "Support Our Oops!" (seen on the 10-East heading from Santa Monica to downtown, maybe at the Western overpass?).

I of course immediately plagiarized it and turned it into a sign I used at anti-war protests and demos ever after

[Left Coast2020]

16. I witnessed him at work up here in Nor-Cal several years ago

..Through someone else. Put up a few signs on I-80. Guy is a genius and very cool.

As for Freeway sign, he had a few that were brilliant. Can't remember its been so long.

And just looking at his site, its an environmental theme. Maybe time to shift back to war theme....again.

[Generic Other]

17. He's still in biz

https://twitter.com/PatrickRandall

His latest: "ou can have my gun when you pry it from my child's cold dead hands."

[Le Taz Hot]

34. There is only one measure as to the efficacy

of those letter-writing campaigns, calls, faxes and marches and that is, did we go to war with Iraq? We both know the answer.

[HardTimes99]

36. Change the language slightly and you may have a better feeling about us and

our efforts. Did our efforts prevent the Bush Junta from committing a war crime and crimes against humanity? No. Did they prevent the Democratic leadership from being accessories before and after the fact to said crime? No. But letter-writing and calls have never prevented a crime from being committed, AFAIK. That said, Jane Harman (my rep at the time) was forced to step down from what would have been her chairmanship of the House Intelligence Committee after the 2006 mid-terms. Gebhardt and Daschle are long-forgotten unpleasant memories. Even though the presumptive heir-apparent in 2008, Iraq hung like an albatross around Hillary's (and Biden's) neck. The person who did win the nomination in 2008 had taken an anti-war stance at about the same time you and I took the same stance. Granted, that person has now sold the anti-war movement down the river, as it were. But that's hardly new in politics. And now when President Obama needs allies, he won't find them among the progressive left and has to go begging for them from the fascists who scorn him for, of all things, his race.

[CakeGrrl]

22. The RW may be your allies here

if they think voting "no" will screw the President over, they may seize the opportunity. I doubt they think of the POTUS as a fellow "One Percenter", though some corners of the Left seem to think he's at the top of the pile.

[ann---]

7. The buck ends at the WH

Obama can stop this nonsense now and keep us out of another war. What a huge disappointment he is to progressives like me.

[AllyCat]

25. I'm with you ann. So disappointed, but I guess I'm not surprised

When all the Dems were running in '08, Randy Rhodes reviewed the candidates on their war stance and H. Clinton and Obama were about the worst. So I guess I never thought he would end the war in Iraq...when he did, the no war in Iraq-ish bumper sticker came off my car. Now, I plan to take a razor blade to the Obama sticker, because I cannot condone what he is doing.

Grieving for the people who have lost so much in Syria and will lose even more when and if we intervene. Ugh.

[littlewolf]

10. good info however not to be nit picky or anything

but the chinless wonder is the senate Minority leader ....
and Reid is the Majority leader

[School Teacher]

11. Get on The Phone and the Net and Stay on It and Into the Streets

People, make those calls. When I called this morning my senator's and rep's mailboxes were not yet full. We need to fill them up
and keep on it. Make visible demonstrations with well thought out signs and show up where you are least expected. We need to get very loud for a long time.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

15. K&R. Thanks for posting this.

[wisteria]

18. I let my Reps and Senators know that we need to do this.

Assad crossed the line, and we need t act quickly to end the carnage and send him a strong message that using chemical weapons on your own people is evil and inhuman.

[proverbialwisdom]

19. K&R

[yurbud]

20. and a White House petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/us-had-no-moral-authority-punish-syrias-war-crimes-while-our-own-war-criminals-arent-prosecuted/XK2FcyFj

[AllyCat]

26. Done. I forget about this site unless people post links like you did.

#9, #9, #9, #9.....

[backscatter712]

39. Also sign this one:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/no-war-syria/QcTV4m0F

With White House petitions, I find it good to do a search for petitions rather than starting a new one - chances are good there's one out there that's equivalent that's already got a bunch of signatures.

This one's the most popular petition on the White House site that I found when I searched for "Syria".

[yurbud]

41. I signed all of them. I wanted to give a broader context with mine.

[SoapBox]

21. Let Assad keep KILLING! Ya!

...because that is what this is all sounding like.

Is that the mantra? Because if we don't take some kind of action...then the spineless won't and
Russia and China will be loving his strong arm killing.

Please detail the extensive plan for the U.S., DUer's! And no, "Do Nothing" is not an acceptable answer.

[Llewlladdwr]

23. Why is "do nothing" not acceptable?

How does Syria present a threat to the US?

[jmodden]

24. The winner will not be a Jeffersonian democrat

It's a Syrian cage match. Not our problem.

[tokenlib]

29. The Syrian rebels are not any better..

..except perhaps at using bread knives to saw off the heads of priests. We really don't have any easy options here. But without a multinational response..it may be best to do nothing.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

37. Who said anything about "do nothing"?

There are others ways to accomplish a goal besides a tomahawk missile.

[Catherina]

27. Several Members of Congress said nearly 100% of ppl who contacted them are opposed

Justin Amash ?@repjustinamash 9h

Several Members of Congress have remarked that nearly 100% of ppl who have contacted them about #Syria are opposed to U.S. military strikes.

Retweeted by Occupy Congress

[blue14u]

28. I debated posting this ( in my mind)

do we need to consider the ideal that by calling any one or more

of these # we are feeding them what they want and need to update

their data base?

I called one of these 's and they ask for ...

Your full name
your e-mail address
your phone #
and what your calling about

IDK...I am willing to be active, but how convenient for them to NSA us all.

In a different post I said that nothing quiets the masses on the other issues
like mentioning WAR!

I appreciate all the information provided in the OP and bookmarked.

I am just to suspicious.. Why now, out of the blue just before the turds return
from vacay.. What are they really planning?

Needless to say...I am on HIGH ALERT with this and I hope every one here is too!

Question everything... EVERYTHING... and think more than a second or two please...

[DebJ]

30. If you file taxes, 'they' already have your name and real address.

Getting email and a phone isn't terribly hard, either.

YES you should ALWAYS call and voice your opinion. I say that even though I am pro-intervention myself
at this point. Everyone should call. All the time. And always say "I vote and I drag others to the polls with me."

[blue14u]

32. Oh I always Vote

I was swayed today when Kerry said they had blood and hair samples testing positive..

I don't know why, but something about the timing and all, makes it stink to me..

I will wait and sleep on it, and tomorrow see if I feel it passes the smell test any

better than since this talk of war started.

Your probably right, and I will call and do anything else to give support either way..

Thank you for the input! Much appreciated.. These are very ominous times.

I am paying close attention to every detail. I don't take it lightly, and I am relieved the
POTUS will wait for Congress, unless something else takes a turn again.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

38. That's on reason I like to send faxes.

I use a local fax service, use just my name and City. A bit more control than other methods.

[blue14u]

43. I like that ideal HHNF.. I am an activist and my

family goes way back in taking active roles in politics

and policies.. ie.. sig line. I have taken a role on this also, and will

continue to do so. I feel so strongly against this WAR, I will call my reps and others..

The only thing new with me is my phone # so my position on possibly

not calling is mute. My state reps know me anyway. They would expect

a call from me on something so vitally important as a opinion to War.

Your OP has given us no excuse not to be active on this issue.

Thanks

[backscatter712]

40. One of the few things that Congresscritters listen to is massive numbers of their constituents.

When they get a lot of calls from their voters on a particular issue, they pay attention.

[bhikkhu]

31. I think the other option is to legalize chemical warfare against civilians

...of course, that's international law, and it really is the UN's role to enforce it. But if the UN fails to enforce international law, what then? Does NATO just ignore it too? And do we want to establish the precedent that the US really doesn't care either?

When bush used white phosphorous against falluja, I really wish someone had stood up and opposed it. Using sarin is a big step farther, and I still really wish someone would oppose it. At some point, one precedent stacks upon another, and the world is a different place. Which I don't think is a good option either.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

49. I am not talking about "no action" --

There are other options that need to be tried before we send the tomahawks. There is an unnecessary rush to war -- and yes, it IS war -- right now, one that needs to slow the fuck down.

[avaistheone1]

33. Kicked and highly recommended.

Call, email on Tuesday!

Give them hell! No bombing Syria!!

[Scuba]

35. Kick for the a.m.

[LWolf]

42. What kind of difference are you thinking DU will make?

I'm not seeing consensus on Syria here.

Unlike 2003, when DU was unified in opposition, there are a hell of a lot of Democratic Hawks supporting military action.

Edited to add:

Maybe it's not really "a hell of a lot;" it just seems that way.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

44. Recent DU polls show --

overwhelmingly that DUers do not support a strike on Syria. The hawks are just very, very loud.

[LWolf]

52. I believe that.

It would actually be energizing to get organized and busy.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

45. Kick - much work to be done!

[Faux pas]

46. Done Thanks!

[tarheelsunc]

47. Is listing McConnell as the Majority Leader supposed to be a filibuster joke? If so, well played.eom

[Hell Hath No Fury]

48. Corrected --

It just feels like that most days.

[calimary]

50. Also - some TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers here in my sig line.

YES. Call your reps. AND call somebody else's too. CALL THEM whether they're good guys or bad guys. They all need to hear what you think. Whether you think it makes any difference or not.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

51. Kick -

Today's Senate hearing should give everyone pause -- and incentive to make some calls.