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Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:47 AM

Why did the MIC instruct Obama to seek Congressional authorization for an attack?

For days I've been reading dozens of posts castigating him as a pawn of the MIC going so far as to "channel Bush and Cheney."

So why did his secret bosses order him to go this route?



I can't keep track of this puppet show.

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Reply Why did the MIC instruct Obama to seek Congressional authorization for an attack? (Original post)
Orrex Sep 2013 OP
whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #1
NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #4
pnwmom Sep 2013 #12
JoePhilly Sep 2013 #2
djean111 Sep 2013 #3
gopiscrap Sep 2013 #5
BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #6
Orrex Sep 2013 #8
BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #10
Orrex Sep 2013 #11
avebury Sep 2013 #7
TomClash Sep 2013 #9
Recursion Sep 2013 #13
customerserviceguy Sep 2013 #14
polichick Sep 2013 #15
Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #16
polichick Sep 2013 #17
Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #18
Orrex Sep 2013 #19
polichick Sep 2013 #21
bunnies Sep 2013 #22
Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #20

Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:52 AM

1. Even a tool of the MIC has to obey the constitution

I'm not making that claim about Obama, simply pointing out the fallacy in your post.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:54 AM

4. Bush didn't. nt

 

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:57 AM

12. No SCOTUS has ever ruled that a limited strike constitutes a war

that would require going to Congress for approval.

That's the fallacy here.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:52 AM

2. They're trying to trick us ... duh.

Its all part of Obama's evil O'Warmongering.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:54 AM

3. If it is approved by Congress, and goes badly, then the MIC

 

was just following orders.
I believe the Congressional vote will mostly be given with an eye to political expediency and profit.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:54 AM

5. possibly afraid of possible riots

from folks that could hurt or harm the economy trust me, all decisions are always about fucking money.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:59 AM

6. Looney Tunes on a Sunday morning

Cool.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:11 AM

8. Really?

Where have you been for the past week?

DU has been awash in accusations that Obama is just like Bush/Cheney and that he's completely in the thrall of the MIC.


I'm just trying to figure out why the omnipotent machinery of the MIC allowed Obama to detour the eager run-up to war.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:15 AM

10. Oh, I've been here

Just hard to keep track of who's CT over-the-edge and who's not.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:54 AM

11. LOL Sad but true

I try to avoid the sarcasm smiley at all costs, but I'm often reminded that even the most seemingly obvious over-the-top sarcasm can be indistinguishable from the background noise of "normal" conversation.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:02 AM

7. Because if Obama wants to bomb Syria he wants

to have as many members of Congress on board. That way, if the whole thing blows up (pardon the pun) down the road, he won't be the only one taking the blame, there would be enough to go around.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:12 AM

9. Because the President doesn't really want to bomb Syria

He is looking for a way out of the box. Putting the problem to Congress was an excellent political maneuver.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:02 PM

13. Because it's comforting to imagine there's one overarching sinister plan

Rather than the chaotic, combined influence of millions of people making particular decisions for idiosyncratic reasons.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:45 PM

14. Here's my theory

They really don't want a government shutdown, it interferes with making profits. If you can get Congress to go along with the President on this, then he becomes a "wartime leader", and it's more likely that he gets a budget he can sign.

On the other hand, it makes him expend time and political capital that he needs in order to get a budget resolution and debt ceiling increase, thus ruining the chance for either. Should he lose the vote, he will be seen as weak going into those negotiations, and he'll have to give up more to the Rethugs to keep the government functioning financially.

Oh, wait, I think I just stumbled into the truth there, but I'm not sure. I've never been good at following puppet shows myself.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:47 PM

15. They didn't - that's why Lieberman is pissed...

It was a perfect out for him - let's hope he waits for the UN report.

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:49 PM

16. I hoping its because he Stared into the Abyss, as they say....

and doesn't want to be the President that started WW III...

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:52 PM

17. Yes, a pawn in the game of those who can't wait to bring on "the end times."

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 01:07 PM

18. I wish I could unrec idiotic racist shit like this

and yes, I said RACIST.

Because Bush WAS the MIC, but you're claiming a black man who has the same job ANSWERS TO the mic.

Either there IS NO MIC, or Obama is the HEAD of the MIC, and those are your two choices, fucking like it or fucking not.

To claim the POTUS is a puppet of some bullshit "MIC" is either your way of dealing with your disappointment that he hasn't
dismantled the Pentagon, or it's a reflection of your own racism.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 01:15 PM

19. Finally, a level-headed voice of reason.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:24 PM

21. Very silly.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:55 PM

22. Bush was the military industrial complex?

 

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Response to Orrex (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 02:22 PM

20. Maybe Big Oil trumped the MIC in this case.

 

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