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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:09 AM

If you've seen the movie "The Butler" would you rate it for me?

and if you feel like sharing please tell why. My wife and I saw it yesterday
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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:15 AM

1. I loved how they threaded history in the film

thought they should have paid more attention to Watergate and they should have made Reagan look morse than they did. Wished they would have used more actual footage.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:19 AM

2. The only thing they got wrong is how the presidents looked

The gents in question sounded reasonably like the various Oval Office occupants, but didn't look like them much at all. I mean, here was good ol' Tricky Dick in the throes of Watergate, late at night, obviously sloshed, and where, I ask, were his deep dark whiskers? The man was famous for his 5 o'clock shadow. And so it went. Jack Kennedy was way too young and slender -- I mean, "young" as in "barely 30". Eisenhower was passable. Lyndon Johnson's face should have been deeply lined, and wasn't.

Picky, maybe, but we rely on visual cues and they were lacking. They did the wives better.

As for the plot -- I'd love to read the original now. What a history The Butler had.

Hekate

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:45 AM

3. Four links below to the WaPo articles regarding the real WH butler Eugene Allen...


... that the film was based on.

A Butler Well Served by This Election - 2008
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603948.html

White House Butler Eugene Allen Witnesses Swearing-In (of Barack Obama) - 2009
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/20/AR2009012004301.html

Eugene Allen, White House butler for 8 presidents, dies at 90 - 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/01/AR2010040103444.html

White House butler Eugene Allen's humility recalled at funeral - 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2010/04/01/ST2010040103462.html

I hope everyone takes the time to read the articles and also has the opportunity to see the film


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:14 AM

5. Thanks so much for all of that

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:10 AM

4. I would never see it. Two words:

 

Oprah Winfrey.

I hear it's very good but just can't see anything Oprah is in. I quickly turn the channel every time she shows up on my tv screen.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 02:08 AM

8. You probably won't want to watch the Oscars, then, if reports are accurate.

Reviewers are saying she kicked ass as the missus.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 02:22 AM

9. Wow. I thought she was brilliant in "The Color Purple"

Bet she will be in this too. But I can understand your reaction. There are plenty of actors that I despise to the point I'll either change the channel or, if I can't, then I'll leave the room.

John Wayne works my last good nerve. IMHO the only character he ever played was John Wayne. My friends tell me I'm a fool with no appreciation of his talent and if I'll only watch "...... ... ....." I'll see that he's a genius. Not gonna happen in this lifetime.

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Response to Rowdyboy (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:18 AM

14. Oprah joins Russell Crowe, Mel Gibson and Vince Vaughn

 

on my list!

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:17 AM

6. Its not on Pirate Bay yet

will have to wait to rate.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 02:06 AM

7. I have not seen it but four members of my family would give it that A plus for ya. nt

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 02:50 AM

10. Withot even seeing it I bet it dignifies subservience

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 03:39 AM

11. Not really.

The major conflict in the film is between the subservient butler and his son, who is out getting his ass kicked in the civil rights movement.

I thought it was a good movie, but not great. Whitaker and Winfrey were terrific, but the stunt casting of the Presidents didn't work for me. And there were some plot elements that seemed farfetched.

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Response to Enraged_Ape (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 04:06 AM

12. Who is the most compelling protagonist in the end?

The servant or the rebel? Or was the rebel not an important part except to highlight the dignity of the subservience


I love Whitaker. Not a fan of Winfrey. And the stunt casting of the Presidents has kept me away from seeing the movie.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 04:49 AM

13. Well, I don't want to spoil it.

But I will tell you that you would not be disappointed by how things end up. That part of the movie, at least, was very moving.

The film actually serves as an effective tribute to the civil rights movement and all the shit that those people went through.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:25 AM

15. absolutely not. In fact, it is a major theme of the movie. For that reason, I think you should give

it a shot. Winfrey and Whitaker are magnificent and should both get Oscars.

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