Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:12 PM

Rachel Maddow: "Journalism is NOT terrorism." She is supporting Greenwald. "It's an outrage."

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Very skeptical of the US given "advance notice" that Miranda was going to be detained - and letting it go ahead.

Paraphrase: If the US wants to convince the world that Greenwald and Poitrus are wrong about govt over-rearch - then putting journalists through interrogation, letting our supposed ALLIES detain them - is an outrage.

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Go Rachel. This is a defining issue. Are you on the right side or the wrong side? Rachel is on the RIGHT SIDE.

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Rachel Maddow: "Journalism is NOT terrorism." She is supporting Greenwald. "It's an outrage." (Original post)	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	OP
The tide is turning	Harmony Blue	Aug 2013	#1
This is a defining civil rights issue of our time. Are you for civil rights for blacks, for gays?	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	#4
I support 100% civil rights and civil liberties	Harmony Blue	Aug 2013	#9
Oh doncha know it because its OLD!!111! From Bush days and we KNEW about it	riderinthestorm	Aug 2013	#11
Yet Snowden and Manning need to be drawn and quartered because they hurt national security!	backscatter712	Aug 2013	#61
Oh, yeah, we suspected all this stuff	Warpy	Aug 2013	#86
Because it's not really spying.	tazkcmo	Aug 2013	#24
You need to keep up	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2013	#36
I think that person was being sarcastic.	Fawke Em	Aug 2013	#59
It is so easy to miss it these days	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2013	#74
You can do a lot with metadata. A good mathematician teamed with a good lawyer can	JDPriestly	Aug 2013	#40
the sarcasm wasn't dripping in red, but I believe it was there ;) nt	magical thyme	Aug 2013	#68
Yes...	dennis4868	Aug 2013	#77
But you don't own your meta data, didn't you hear about that? Your meta data belongs	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#96
it was actually a supreme court case	dennis4868	Aug 2013	#107
So was Bush V Gore and Citizen's United where Corporations became people and a loser	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#110
Okay...	dennis4868	Aug 2013	#116
Please, answer the question.	xfundy	Aug 2013	#104
knr	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2013	#2
That damn Paulbot.	NuclearDem	Aug 2013	#3
Black Helicopter Leftess! n/t	leftstreet	Aug 2013	#5
LOL	burnodo	Aug 2013	#44
But the swooners all swear he deserved it because Greenwald is a hack or crook or something!!11!1!!	PSPS	Aug 2013	#6
And Snowden's ex girl friend is a pole dancer.	RC	Aug 2013	#14
Gasp!	tazkcmo	Aug 2013	#25
How will we ever erase that image from our brains, ya know?	RC	Aug 2013	#27
Dances With Poles	tblue	Aug 2013	#56
It was the boxes in the garage	Aerows	Aug 2013	#65
I'm enjoying "didn't pay his bar fees" currently	DirkGently	Aug 2013	#19
Maddow is an UNSerious, Libertarian, racist, Republican, Paulbot, who never loved him...	Demo_Chris	Aug 2013	#7
Run, Rachel, run!	East Coast Pirate	Aug 2013	#18
It's crowded down here	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2013	#37
Just wait, there'll be a rumor she's a lesbian!!!!!!!	Scuba	Aug 2013	#22
Say it aint so!!! nt	Demo_Chris	Aug 2013	#23
And I hear she drinks	Ravens.Ransom	Aug 2013	#33
She makes cocktails on her show! Clearly she is not to be taken seriously. n/t	cui bono	Aug 2013	#39
You forgot to mention that she fears black helicopters.	Bonobo	Aug 2013	#50
Good for her. Some things are more important than party politics and it's sad that there those	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#8
I honestly think the intelligence agency cabal is bigger than the President.	rhett o rick	Aug 2013	#99
I wouldn't worry what a few people who dither around DU with not much to contribute	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#111
I dont pay mind to those that S-lither about DU trying to PPR anyone that remotely	rhett o rick	Aug 2013	#112
Lol, me neither.	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#115
Rachel is obviously a "bad journalist" for not letting all the "facts" come out yet	riderinthestorm	Aug 2013	#10
K&R!!!!!!	felix_numinous	Aug 2013	#12
Wouldn't that be great? Maybe Rachel will help some of the blind see the error of their ways.	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	#43
yes when you have lost rachel	questionseverything	Aug 2013	#54
The Pauls got to her!	WorseBeforeBetter	Aug 2013	#13
Lies! All Lies! Rand got to her! She has boxes in her garage!	neverforget	Aug 2013	#15
''She has boxes in her garage!''	DeSwiss	Aug 2013	#31
Rachel Maddow never really loved him!	QC	Aug 2013	#16
And under the bus she goes!	NealK	Aug 2013	#17
Regardless of how you feel about Greenwald,	morningfog	Aug 2013	#20
Damn, now Obama's going to kill another kitten	mindwalker_i	Aug 2013	#21
I respectfully disagree with Rachel's take on what happened.	AppetiteForApathy	Aug 2013	#26
+1.	blkmusclmachine	Aug 2013	#28
Face it. Our NSA and CIA got caught with their hands in the cookie jars of the world.	JDPriestly	Aug 2013	#42
+1	Little Star	Aug 2013	#48
Why such hamfisted reponses? Are they panicking, pissed off, stupid - all of the above?	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	#97
All plus proud and dependent on the program for their livelihoods.	JDPriestly	Aug 2013	#100
Obama doesn't seem to have a problem sayind no to his BASE.	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	#101
True. We need to organize as Progressive Democrats -- a the grassroots level.	JDPriestly	Aug 2013	#114
Ouch!	DeSwiss	Aug 2013	#29
K&R	midnight	Aug 2013	#30
an outrage indeed. it's time for the party to get on the right side of this.	nashville_brook	Aug 2013	#32
Go for it	polynomial	Aug 2013	#34
What is this?	Aerows	Aug 2013	#67
We have a second bus coming by...can we pencil you in for a 8am	Rex	Aug 2013	#35
Well at least one mainstream journalist gets it...	ljm2002	Aug 2013	#38
Awesome! eom..	ut oh	Aug 2013	#41
The usual suspects are conspicuously absent from this thread	burnodo	Aug 2013	#45
Their strategy is to ignore it	Enthusiast	Aug 2013	#49
I guess Rachel is a bridge too far	tblue	Aug 2013	#57
They're still putting the new batch through focus group testing.	backscatter712	Aug 2013	#62
Link to the video: 'Journalism is not terrorism'	flpoljunkie	Aug 2013	#46
Thanks for posting the video!	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	#52
Knee jerks defend every government action, without thinking.	morningfog	Aug 2013	#47
This message was self-deleted by its author	Sunlei	Aug 2013	#51
HUGE K & R !!!	WillyT	Aug 2013	#53
Soooooo	Cryptoad	Aug 2013	#55
Yes, Rachel is clearly a terrorist!	Civilization2	Aug 2013	#63
why you think that?	Cryptoad	Aug 2013	#71
The corporate-military kills "terrorists" all the time, using drones to murder them, right?	Civilization2	Aug 2013	#91
I've seen plenty of wrong headed statements on DU	Aerows	Aug 2013	#69
I have seen plenty of posters who	Cryptoad	Aug 2013	#72
internet posters can be terrorists, but just by posting on the internet you are not a terrorist. nt	La Lioness Priyanka	Aug 2013	#75
I didnt ask	Cryptoad	Aug 2013	#76
so is comprehension. i used an analogy to explain what rachel said	La Lioness Priyanka	Aug 2013	#80
Oh,,, i understand what you wrote	Cryptoad	Aug 2013	#81
no journalism cannot be terrorism. some surgeons can be terrorists, but medicine is not terrorism.	La Lioness Priyanka	Aug 2013	#92
again,,,	Cryptoad	Aug 2013	#98
i think to have logic you need to be at the very least capable of	La Lioness Priyanka	Aug 2013	#109
And this might redeem Rachel in my eyes. I know that for me, the homophobic streak in the	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2013	#58
+1 n/t	Aerows	Aug 2013	#70
The homophobic undertones have been evident to me since early on.	The Link	Aug 2013	#84
Is she still insisting snowden prove his self	Jesus Malverde	Aug 2013	#60
It's 'prove himself'. And do you have any support for your assertion as to Maddow's position?	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2013	#64
Points of view change over time	Harmony Blue	Aug 2013	#66
sadly, it often takes an event like this..	frylock	Aug 2013	#78
We should all be outraged. nt	DLevine	Aug 2013	#73
Some are conspicuously absent from this thread. Curious.	NorthCarolina	Aug 2013	#79
The silence from some quarters is deafening.	JEB	Aug 2013	#82
A brilliant, "uppity" woman with a national tv show who just happens to be a lesbian.	libdem4life	Aug 2013	#83
Maddow appreciates the words you put into her mouth, I'm sure. nt	uhnope	Aug 2013	#85
K&R n/t	myrna minx	Aug 2013	#87
I applaud Rachel for this.	dawg	Aug 2013	#88
Rachael gets it.	Jasana	Aug 2013	#89
Why do many refer to al-Jazeera journalists as terrorists?	kelliekat44	Aug 2013	#90
actually if the people did something worth exposing it does give a journalist	La Lioness Priyanka	Aug 2013	#93
"People" call AJ journalists terrorists because that's how Bushco wanted them portrayed.	NuclearDem	Aug 2013	#105
Because those people are stupid and uninformed. Next question?	LeftyMom	Aug 2013	#113
Good on Rachel!! K&R	Fantastic Anarchist	Aug 2013	#94
I love Rachel!	warrprayer	Aug 2013	#95
She might also be concerned that her partner could	Cleita	Aug 2013	#102
Very good point. Clearly that spectre has been raised.	chimpymustgo	Aug 2013	#103
It IS possible for "journalists" to be, or act in,	xfundy	Aug 2013	#106
Who knew that would be a controversial statement	DirkGently	Aug 2013	#108

Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:13 PM

Harmony Blue (3,978 posts)

1. The tide is turning

and this issue isn't going away anytime soon.

Rachel Maddow: "Journalism is NOT terrorism." She is supporting Greenwald. "It's an outrage."

1. The tide is turning

4. This is a defining civil rights issue of our time. Are you for civil rights for blacks, for gays?

9. I support 100% civil rights and civil liberties

11. Oh doncha know it because its OLD!!111! From Bush days and we KNEW about it

61. Yet Snowden and Manning need to be drawn and quartered because they hurt national security!

86. Oh, yeah, we suspected all this stuff

24. Because it's not really spying.

36. You need to keep up

59. I think that person was being sarcastic.

74. It is so easy to miss it these days

40. You can do a lot with metadata. A good mathematician teamed with a good lawyer can

68. the sarcasm wasn't dripping in red, but I believe it was there ;) nt

77. Yes...

96. But you don't own your meta data, didn't you hear about that? Your meta data belongs

107. it was actually a supreme court case

110. So was Bush V Gore and Citizen's United where Corporations became people and a loser

116. Okay...

104. Please, answer the question.

2. knr

3. That damn Paulbot.

5. Black Helicopter Leftess! n/t

44. LOL

6. But the swooners all swear he deserved it because Greenwald is a hack or crook or something!!11!1!!

14. And Snowden's ex girl friend is a pole dancer.

25. Gasp!

27. How will we ever erase that image from our brains, ya know?

56. Dances With Poles

65. It was the boxes in the garage

19. I'm enjoying "didn't pay his bar fees" currently

7. Maddow is an UNSerious, Libertarian, racist, Republican, Paulbot, who never loved him...

18. Run, Rachel, run!

37. It's crowded down here

22. Just wait, there'll be a rumor she's a **lesbian**!!!!!!!

23. Say it aint so!!! nt

33. And I hear she drinks

39. She makes cocktails on her show! Clearly she is not to be taken seriously. n/t

50. You forgot to mention that she fears black helicopters.

8. Good for her. Some things are more important than party politics and it's sad that there those

99. I honestly think the intelligence agency cabal is bigger than the President.

111. I wouldn't worry what a few people who dither around DU with not much to contribute

112. I dont pay mind to those that S-lither about DU trying to PPR anyone that remotely

115. Lol, me neither.

10. Rachel is obviously a "bad journalist" for not letting all the "facts" come out yet

12. K&R!!!!!!

43. Wouldn't that be great? Maybe Rachel will help some of the blind see the error of their ways.

54. yes when you have lost rachel

13. The Pauls got to her!

15. Lies! All Lies! Rand got to her! She has boxes in her garage!

31. ''She has boxes in her garage!''

16. Rachel Maddow never really loved him!

17. And under the bus she goes!

20. Regardless of how you feel about Greenwald,

21. Damn, now Obama's going to kill another kitten

26. I respectfully disagree with Rachel's take on what happened.

28. +1.

42. Face it. Our NSA and CIA got caught with their hands in the cookie jars of the world.

48. +1

97. Why such hamfisted reponses? Are they panicking, pissed off, stupid - all of the above?

100. All plus proud and dependent on the program for their livelihoods.

101. Obama doesn't seem to have a problem sayind no to his BASE.

114. True. We need to organize as Progressive Democrats -- a the grassroots level.

29. Ouch!

30. K&R

32. an outrage indeed. it's time for the party to get on the right side of this.

34. Go for it

67. What is this?

35. We have a second bus coming by...can we pencil you in for a 8am

38. Well at least one mainstream journalist gets it...

41. Awesome! eom..

45. The usual suspects are conspicuously absent from this thread

49. Their strategy is to ignore it

57. I guess Rachel is a bridge too far

62. They're still putting the new batch through focus group testing.

46. Link to the video: 'Journalism is not terrorism'

52. Thanks for posting the video!

47. Knee jerks defend every government action, without thinking.

53. HUGE K & R !!!

55. Soooooo

63. Yes, Rachel is clearly a terrorist!

22. Just wait, there'll be a rumor she's a lesbian!!!!!!!