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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 06:55 PM Aug 2013

UK gov.raided the Guardian’s offices & destroyed hard drives of Snowden's information!

Oh my, a modern Watergate is unfolding....

U.K. government thought destroying Guardian hard drives would stop Snowden stories
In a remarkable post, Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger describes how the British government raided the Guardian’s offices in order to destroy hard drives containing information provided by NSA leaker Edward Snowden. The British government had been pressuring the Guardian to return or destroy the Snowden documents.

Rusbridger says he tried to explain that destroying hard drives would be pointless:
I explained to the man from Whitehall about the nature of international collaborations and the way in which, these days, media organisations could take advantage of the most permissive legal environments.
Bluntly, we did not have to do our reporting from London. Already most of the NSA stories were being reported and edited out of New York. And had it occurred to him that Greenwald lived in Brazil?

The man was unmoved. And so one of the more bizarre moments in the Guardian’s long history occurred - with two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian’s basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents… Whitehall was satisfied, but it felt like a peculiarly pointless piece of symbolism that understood nothing about the digital age.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/19/u-k-government-thought-destroying-guardian-hard-drives-would-stop-snowden-stories/
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UK gov.raided the Guardian’s offices & destroyed hard drives of Snowden's information! (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 OP
Well, Aaron Hernandez smashed his cell phone and home security system Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #1
These people are dumb as a box rocks. bemildred Aug 2013 #2
And these are the people we are supposed to feel secure about gathering Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #3
Kinda frightening what they could do if they had brains.... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #4
This is quite serious LittleBlue Aug 2013 #5
I thought this was all old news? neverforget Aug 2013 #6
It appears they never checked the hard drives before destroying them. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #7
"something is just a wee bit wrong here." dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #8
"Miranda and Greenwald need to stay away from airplanes for a long time" ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #13
Yes something is terribly wrong. What in the Hell is in that information? Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #14
They do not have a clue what was in those hard drives ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #15
As I read your post I wondered, Cerridwen Aug 2013 #16
I am wondering the same thing Cerridwen. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #17
You or someone you know has 'walked the talk.' Cerridwen Aug 2013 #18
Maybe the Germans did win WWII after all. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #9
Great minds..... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #11
That's a special breed of stoopud right there. n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #10
What complete idiots Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #12
That's as good an excuse as any. kentuck Aug 2013 #19

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. Well, Aaron Hernandez smashed his cell phone and home security system
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 06:59 PM
Aug 2013

As if that would protect him from a murder charge..

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
3. And these are the people we are supposed to feel secure about gathering
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 07:04 PM
Aug 2013

intelligence on everyone? The security service leaders are looking more and more like the Keystone Cops with every new revelation. Where is the adult supervision of these yahoos?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Kinda frightening what they could do if they had brains....
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 07:42 PM
Aug 2013

Surely no intelligent person leaves their only copy of important documents on one machine, esp. when going thru airport security or something like that. You would think the gov. knows that.
Maybe we should be thankful they do not......

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. This is quite serious
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:23 PM
Aug 2013

Storming into the offices of a newspaper and destroying potentially damaging information.

Evidence of antidemocratic behavior.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
6. I thought this was all old news?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:30 PM
Aug 2013

The intel agencies are certainly going to great lengths to stop this "old news".

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
7. It appears they never checked the hard drives before destroying them.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:07 PM
Aug 2013

.
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How do they know whether or not they even got the correct ones?

Maybe the files are in a flash drive or two somewhere, Snowden is sure to have backup on backup.

He is quite aware of the mentality of the thugs he is up against.

AND

I can almost understand seizing and checking someone's computer WITH REASONABLE CAUSE AND A WARRANT,

but to just blow in like the gestapo - yup - GESTAPO, and destroy private property,

something is just a wee bit wrong here.

CC

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. "something is just a wee bit wrong here."
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:20 PM
Aug 2013

Indeed..my gob is properly smacked....

Honestly, this kind of behavior was what we expected of Nixon.
The cover up of a 3rd rate burglary to steal files was what brought him down... the coverup was of paramount importance because he knew the break in would be very harmful to his reign.
And he was right.

But NOW..we have a gov't that has bragged of the "special relationship" with the US, invading a newspaper office and destroying property property, AND the US admits knowing ahead of time of this behavior and never gave it a 2nd thought.

I think Miranda and Greenwald need to stay away for airplanes for a long time........

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
13. "Miranda and Greenwald need to stay away from airplanes for a long time"
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:02 PM
Aug 2013

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Snowden also methinks . . .

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Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
14. Yes something is terribly wrong. What in the Hell is in that information?
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 04:26 AM
Aug 2013

I have never seen anything like this in my lifetime.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
15. They do not have a clue what was in those hard drives
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 06:39 PM
Aug 2013

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From what I've read, they just destroyed whatever they saw,

so they have no idea whether or not they destroyed the "right" ones.

And it sure wasn't legal by any standards.

Jackboots are back.

CC

Cerridwen

(13,252 posts)
16. As I read your post I wondered,
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 06:44 PM
Aug 2013

is what they're trying to hide as bad as or worse than what they think the documents contain?

What is it that has the "intelligence" community so worried? Is it there in the documents? Or is what they're hiding so huge...?

Sorry, Mojorabbit. I went off on a tangent.

Cerridwen

(13,252 posts)
18. You or someone you know has 'walked the talk.'
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:44 PM
Aug 2013

Unlike so many here who have yet to (or will ever) put their lives on the line; you know; as do I. The real divide on DU: those who have fought in the trenches and those who consider internet posting as fighting.

I recognize a fellow warrior spirit. Namaste.


kentuck

(111,052 posts)
19. That's as good an excuse as any.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:45 PM
Aug 2013

Stop the outlets and newspapers that choose to expose the information. That is an effective way to stop the secrets from being exposed.

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