Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:28 AM
chimpymustgo (12,774 posts)
NSA paid British spy agency $100 mln in secret funds – new leakLast edited Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
NSA paid British spy agency $100 mln in secret funds – new leak
Published time: August 01, 2013 15:17 The NSA has made hush-hush payments of at least $100 million to Britain’s GCHQ spying agency over the past three years to influence British intelligence gathering operations. The payouts were revealed in new Snowden leaks published by The Guardian. The documents illustrate that the NSA expects the UK’s Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, to act in its interest, expecting a return on the investment, The Guardian said Thursday. Redevelopments at GCHQ’s site at Bude in southwest England, which alone cost over $20 million, were paid for by the US National Security Agency. The facility intercepts information from transatlantic cables carrying Internet and communications information. The revelations appear to contradict previous denials from British government ministers that GCHQ does the NSA’s “dirty work.” In addition, the latest Snowden dossier details how British surveillance operations could be a “selling point” for the US. -edit- More at: http://rt.com/news/nsa-pay-british-spy-agency-910/ Adding original source: The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden Your tax dollars at work!
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chimpymustgo | Aug 2013 | OP |
WinkyDink | Aug 2013 | #1 | |
wtmusic | Aug 2013 | #2 | |
Robb | Aug 2013 | #3 | |
cantbeserious | Aug 2013 | #4 | |
Vinnie From Indy | Aug 2013 | #6 | |
chimpymustgo | Aug 2013 | #7 | |
Downwinder | Aug 2013 | #5 | |
99th_Monkey | Aug 2013 | #8 | |
matthews | Aug 2013 | #9 | |
Spitfire of ATJ | Aug 2013 | #10 | |
FiveGoodMen | Aug 2013 | #12 | |
Spitfire of ATJ | Aug 2013 | #14 | |
intaglio | Aug 2013 | #11 | |
GiaGiovanni | Aug 2013 | #13 | |
intaglio | Aug 2013 | #15 | |
GiaGiovanni | Aug 2013 | #17 | |
cprise | Aug 2013 | #16 |
Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:29 AM
WinkyDink (51,311 posts)
1. But we have no money for "entitlements"....
Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:29 AM
wtmusic (39,166 posts)
2. Ed is the gift that keeps giving
and his detractors can go to hell.
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Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:30 AM
Robb (39,665 posts)
3. Outsourcing?
Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:36 AM
cantbeserious (13,039 posts)
4. Americans Paying The British To Spy On Americans
Response to cantbeserious (Reply #4)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:10 PM
Vinnie From Indy (10,804 posts)
6. I think that is the underlying secret they are terrified of having revealed to the American public
I have the deep suspicion that the NSA has merely colluded with allies like Great Britain to spy on each others citizens and exchange the information at will. By spying in this manner, NSA officials, the President and others can lie with complete confidence. They can say that the NSA is NOT spying on Americans. What they do not say is that the Brits are doing it for them.
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Response to Vinnie From Indy (Reply #6)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:20 PM
chimpymustgo (12,774 posts)
7. Gives new meaning to our "special relationship." More from the Guardian:
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When GCHQ does supply the US with valuable intelligence, the agency boasts about it. In one review, GCHQ boasted that it had supplied "unique contributions" to the NSA during its investigation of the American citizen responsible for an attempted car bomb attack in Times Square, New York City, in 2010. No other detail is provided – but it raises the possibility that GCHQ might have been spying on an American living in the US. The NSA is prohibited from doing this by US law. -edit - http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden |
Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 12:54 PM
Downwinder (12,869 posts)
5. Hey, don't knock it.
After 9/11 they caught the woman "with enough gas to blow up Ft. Knox."
Stomach gas, that is. |
Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:13 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
8. Private Tentacles of Public Beast
or is it the other way around?
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Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:22 PM
matthews (497 posts)
9. So, instead of being our Poodle, Britain is now our whore? And we're their's I suppose. nt
Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:22 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
10. This is classic Bush Administration stuff. It's okay if the Brits are doing it too....
Then you bribe the Brits so the motive isn't "what's right" it's "how much?"
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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:08 PM
FiveGoodMen (20,018 posts)
12. It is, indeed
Who'd have thought that Bush would get a 4th term?
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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #12)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:08 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
14. He should have purged the stupid out of DC....
....that would depopulate it...
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Response to chimpymustgo (Original post)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:35 PM
intaglio (8,170 posts)
11. Oh FFS not news, it has been documented for 30 f'n years
By John Pilger in "The New Statesman" 1988 and also unsourced stories published by "Private Eye" since about 1970
It is called Echelon has been running since at about 1962 but it replaced earlier, less comprehensive schemes. also signatories to the agreement are Australia, Canada, New Zealand. There are similar schemes in place in Spain, Germany, Japan, Korea and I believe India. Yes, it needs removing, but it is not news. |
Response to intaglio (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:00 PM
GiaGiovanni (1,247 posts)
13. Eschelon
Based on the idea (now defunct) that American intelligence agencies couldn't collect intelligence from Americans, but that foreign governments could do so.
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Response to GiaGiovanni (Reply #13)
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 03:35 AM
intaglio (8,170 posts)
15. Exactly - except it's not yet defunct n/t
Response to intaglio (Reply #15)
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 05:39 PM
GiaGiovanni (1,247 posts)
17. Just another layer
Lots of them I reckon.
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