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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:23 PM Jul 2013

Who Are We at War With? That’s Classified

In a major national security speech this spring, President Obama said again and again that the U.S. is at war with “Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and their associated forces.”

So who exactly are those associated forces? It’s a secret.

At a hearing in May, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., asked the Defense Department to provide him with a current list of Al Qaeda affiliates.

The Pentagon responded – but Levin’s office told ProPublica they aren’t allowed to share it.
Kathleen Long, a spokeswoman for Levin, would say only that the department’s “answer included the information requested.”

A Pentagon spokesman told ProPublica that revealing such a list could cause “serious damage to national security.”

“Because elements that might be considered ‘associated forces’ can build credibility by being listed as such by the United States, we have classified the list,” said the spokesman, Lt. Col. Jim Gregory. “We cannot afford to inflate these organizations that rely on violent extremist ideology to strengthen their ranks.”

It’s not an abstract question: U.S. drone strikes and other actions frequently target “associated forces,” as has been the case with dozens of strikes against an Al Qaeda offshoot in Yemen.

During the May hearing, Michael Sheehan, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, said he was “not sure there is a list per se.” Describing terrorist groups as “murky” and “shifting,” he said, “it would be difficult for the Congress to get involved in trying to track the designation of which are the affiliate forces” of Al Qaeda.

http://www.propublica.org/article/who-are-we-at-war-with-thats-classified

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Who Are We at War With? That’s Classified (Original Post) morningfog Jul 2013 OP
Derp derp derp derp ... nt bemildred Jul 2013 #1
Secret wars? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #2
When is a Kill List a War? Coyotl Jul 2013 #3
Eastasia... sarisataka Jul 2013 #4
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Secret wars?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jul 2013

We kill anybody we want...

But we don't torture anybody anymore. Promise! We are much better now. The blue pill helps. A lot!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
3. When is a Kill List a War?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jul 2013

If we are at war, where are the attacks? Is war now one-sided. Is a program to kill those with opposing views a war?

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